H G Griffin
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You are responding to a new account that is a troll and likely a sock. Why bother? Add him to ignore with the rest.
TRUMP CONVICTED
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Trump rails against Willis, Wade as judge weighs disqualification over relationship
Former President Trump continued his attacks on the top prosecutors in his Georgia election subversion trial, as the judge prepares to determine if the two will will be disqualified from the case due to their once-romantic relationship.
“WHERE DID FANI GET ALL THAT CASH? NO WAY SHE PAID HER LOVE, ‘PROSECUTOR’ NATHAN WADE, BACK,” Trump posed on Truth Social, referring to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) and special prosecutor Nathan Wade. “SHE MADE UP THE CASH STORY WHEN SHE REALIZED THAT HER ‘SEXCAPADES’ WERE PAID FOR BY THE PEOPLE OF GEORGIA.”
The former president’s post stemmed from a January motion filed by defendant Michael Roman, a Trump 2020 campaign operative and co-defendant in the Georgia election case, who accused Willis of financially benefitting from her relationship with Wade because the two took vacations together.
Judge Scott McAfee heard final arguments Friday from Trump’s lawyers, who have argued Willis and Wade should be removed from the racketeering case because of a conflict of interest that stemmed from their relationship. The judge said he could make a determination within two weeks.
That decision will likely hinge on how he weighs the evidence presented during three days of hearings. Both Willis and Wade took to the witness stand to defend themselves — and while they confirmed their relationship, they claimed they parted ways last summer.
McAfee previously said the romantic allegations “could result” in both of them being disqualified from the case if there was evidence that there was an “actual conflict of interest or the appearance of one.”
In his post online, Trump argued that Willis made up excuses about the money “AFTER SHE GOT CAUGHT.” He continued, saying the prosecutors only “WANTED MONEY AND FAME,” and that’s why they are the top prosecutors in the “Witch Hunt” against him.
The former president also claimed the pair worked with President Biden’s Department of Justice to go after him.
Trump, the current GOP front-runner in the race for the White House, has already pleaded not guilty to the charges, which centers on his alleged attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state.
“Terrible stuff! THIS CASE MUST BE DROPPED – A GREAT EMBARRASSMENT TO GEORGIA!” he posted on Truth Social.
Friday’s arguments ended the nearly two-month battle surrounding Willis and Wade’s relationship. While McAfee will likely issue his ruling soon on the prosecutors quickly, a delay in the trial still seems likely.
thehill.com
Former President Trump continued his attacks on the top prosecutors in his Georgia election subversion trial, as the judge prepares to determine if the two will will be disqualified from the case due to their once-romantic relationship.
“WHERE DID FANI GET ALL THAT CASH? NO WAY SHE PAID HER LOVE, ‘PROSECUTOR’ NATHAN WADE, BACK,” Trump posed on Truth Social, referring to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) and special prosecutor Nathan Wade. “SHE MADE UP THE CASH STORY WHEN SHE REALIZED THAT HER ‘SEXCAPADES’ WERE PAID FOR BY THE PEOPLE OF GEORGIA.”
The former president’s post stemmed from a January motion filed by defendant Michael Roman, a Trump 2020 campaign operative and co-defendant in the Georgia election case, who accused Willis of financially benefitting from her relationship with Wade because the two took vacations together.
Judge Scott McAfee heard final arguments Friday from Trump’s lawyers, who have argued Willis and Wade should be removed from the racketeering case because of a conflict of interest that stemmed from their relationship. The judge said he could make a determination within two weeks.
That decision will likely hinge on how he weighs the evidence presented during three days of hearings. Both Willis and Wade took to the witness stand to defend themselves — and while they confirmed their relationship, they claimed they parted ways last summer.
McAfee previously said the romantic allegations “could result” in both of them being disqualified from the case if there was evidence that there was an “actual conflict of interest or the appearance of one.”
In his post online, Trump argued that Willis made up excuses about the money “AFTER SHE GOT CAUGHT.” He continued, saying the prosecutors only “WANTED MONEY AND FAME,” and that’s why they are the top prosecutors in the “Witch Hunt” against him.
The former president also claimed the pair worked with President Biden’s Department of Justice to go after him.
Trump, the current GOP front-runner in the race for the White House, has already pleaded not guilty to the charges, which centers on his alleged attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state.
“Terrible stuff! THIS CASE MUST BE DROPPED – A GREAT EMBARRASSMENT TO GEORGIA!” he posted on Truth Social.
Friday’s arguments ended the nearly two-month battle surrounding Willis and Wade’s relationship. While McAfee will likely issue his ruling soon on the prosecutors quickly, a delay in the trial still seems likely.
Trump rails against Willis, Wade as judge weighs disqualification over relationship
Former President Trump continued his attacks on the top prosecutors in his Georgia election subversion trial, as the judge prepares to determine if the two will will be disqualified from the case d…
thehill.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I don’t know whether to (laugh emoji) or (angry emoji).Trump rails against Willis, Wade as judge weighs disqualification over relationship
Former President Trump continued his attacks on the top prosecutors in his Georgia election subversion trial, as the judge prepares to determine if the two will will be disqualified from the case due to their once-romantic relationship.
“WHERE DID FANI GET ALL THAT CASH? NO WAY SHE PAID HER LOVE, ‘PROSECUTOR’ NATHAN WADE, BACK,” Trump posed on Truth Social, referring to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) and special prosecutor Nathan Wade. “SHE MADE UP THE CASH STORY WHEN SHE REALIZED THAT HER ‘SEXCAPADES’ WERE PAID FOR BY THE PEOPLE OF GEORGIA.”
The former president’s post stemmed from a January motion filed by defendant Michael Roman, a Trump 2020 campaign operative and co-defendant in the Georgia election case, who accused Willis of financially benefitting from her relationship with Wade because the two took vacations together.
Judge Scott McAfee heard final arguments Friday from Trump’s lawyers, who have argued Willis and Wade should be removed from the racketeering case because of a conflict of interest that stemmed from their relationship. The judge said he could make a determination within two weeks.
That decision will likely hinge on how he weighs the evidence presented during three days of hearings. Both Willis and Wade took to the witness stand to defend themselves — and while they confirmed their relationship, they claimed they parted ways last summer.
McAfee previously said the romantic allegations “could result” in both of them being disqualified from the case if there was evidence that there was an “actual conflict of interest or the appearance of one.”
In his post online, Trump argued that Willis made up excuses about the money “AFTER SHE GOT CAUGHT.” He continued, saying the prosecutors only “WANTED MONEY AND FAME,” and that’s why they are the top prosecutors in the “Witch Hunt” against him.
The former president also claimed the pair worked with President Biden’s Department of Justice to go after him.
Trump, the current GOP front-runner in the race for the White House, has already pleaded not guilty to the charges, which centers on his alleged attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state.
“Terrible stuff! THIS CASE MUST BE DROPPED – A GREAT EMBARRASSMENT TO GEORGIA!” he posted on Truth Social.
Friday’s arguments ended the nearly two-month battle surrounding Willis and Wade’s relationship. While McAfee will likely issue his ruling soon on the prosecutors quickly, a delay in the trial still seems likely.
Trump rails against Willis, Wade as judge weighs disqualification over relationship
Former President Trump continued his attacks on the top prosecutors in his Georgia election subversion trial, as the judge prepares to determine if the two will will be disqualified from the case d…
lemondroptrichomes
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I guess what I mean is I am emotionally detached and not enthusiastic about either candidate. I also focus more on markets and understand the reality is it’s extremely difficult for either party in power to effect what matters most. We have track record of both of them and the world didn’t end. Neither are the boogeyman in my eyes: those are the unelected bureaucrats in my opinion.
I can’t sign on to your last paragraph or the accusation being something to take serious. That’s like taking serious comments about the stolen election in 2016. Looking at the charges it’s clear they’re throwing the book to see if anything sticks
Fogdog
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Trump's second term will not be anything like the first. Just listen to what he's saying.
Question for you: Was the 2020 election stolen from Trump?
lemondroptrichomes
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no it was not
especially not stolen in a sense that voting machines were manipulated/humans interfered
Can an unending years long news cycle presenting anything and everything Trump to be controversial/scandalous alter peoples opinions? Definitely.
If Trump would have stuck to “social media manipulation and media bias was a factor in my loss” he would have done a lot less damage to himself.
He just can’t filter his bombast and I bet a few people around him amped him up to run with the “voter fraud/machine fraud/polling fraud” talking point. Instead that mindset and projection fed in to what became January 6th.
Even though he clearly stated “protest peacefully” etc etc at the speech - big scary voter fraud story was enough to push the most enthusiastic/paranoid minority of his voters to trespass (around 1200,) and an even fewer more smooth brained (around 700?) went further than that misdemeanor charge.
It’s crazy that sliver of the electorate and the incident itself did more to damage to his chances of reelection than anything else. All self inflicted.
Perception is reality and in my opinion he is really on a thin margin in terms of how many people will actually vote for him now. If he wins it’s going to be so close. I don’t think people are enthusiastic about either candidate more keeping whichever one they don’t like out of office.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
to the bolded: he also plainly said to the crowd “you have to fight like hell or you won’t have a country anymore!”
This was long before his “peacefully” statement.
One cannot have it both ways, especially when dealing with a reflexive liar like That Russian Asset formerly In The Oval Room.
lemondroptrichomes
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If you’re going to interpret fight like hell as literal you have to interpret the rest as literal. Yet
, fight like hell in the context of the speech, is less literal than "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” or “We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them."
Still - all of it would have been different if he hadn’t run with the stolen election story.
You lose me completely at Russian asset I don’t buy any of that it doesn’t make sense. Thats as outlandish as those on the right believing Trump’s election was stolen.
I wish Trump were not the nominee. I wish Biden were not the nominee. I’m not entertaining anything beyond that with any tribal energy I just don’t think that way. I’m not an R or a D I’m an I
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CANON_Grow
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So you are willing to completely ignore the Mueller report?
lemondroptrichomes
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I don’t need to dismiss the mueller report to not view Trump as a Russian asset. There are plenty of things to not like about how Trump carries himself/the things he’s said and done for me to not be a personal fan of him. He’s not a Russian asset, he was legitimately elected in 2016, and the 2016 election was not stolen from Clinton.
Mueller report: Trump cleared of conspiring with Russia
Robert Mueller's report finds no evidence of collusion but does not exonerate Mr Trump of obstruction.
www.bbc.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I otoh put absolutely no crime or cruelty past that man. His heroes are dictators and mob bosses. He was angling to dismantle Social Security and personally pocket a coupla trillion.
The things we know are only the tip of the iceberg. For the sake of our republic, it is vital
that he be figuratively torn limb to limb by the very judicial system he worked so hard to subvert.
And yes, I read that “fight like hell” comment as literal. He is not capable of subtlety.
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CANON_Grow
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Do you understand what being considered a Russian entails?I don’t need to dismiss the mueller report to not view Trump as a Russian asset. There are plenty of things to not like about how Trump carries himself/the things he’s said and done for me to not be a personal fan of him. He’s not a Russian asset, he was legitimately elected in 2016, and the 2016 election was not stolen from Clinton.
Mueller report: Trump cleared of conspiring with Russia
Robert Mueller's report finds no evidence of collusion but does not exonerate Mr Trump of obstruction.
EDIT: My bad, Russian ASSET.
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big bud man 413
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Them damn russians!
CANON_Grow
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Ah, ya got me! I'm all confused and flustered about how anyone could have read the Mueller report and came to the conclusion that TFFG is not a Russian ASSET. The only two options are: didn't read it or don't know what asset entails. Possibly confusing asset with agent maybe?
Fogdog
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I think I'll skip over the first parts because they are all based upon your perception and there is little or no evidence to back up the claim that Trump was amped up by others before he went on air to say the election was stolen on the night of the election and well before all the votes were tallied,
much less verified.
So, your perception that Trump was not the leader of a conspiracy to overturn the election is not based upon the evidence that his gang of merry fraudsters left strewn in their wake like a clown car at a circus. It's like many things the authoritarian right hold tightly to. They believe despite the facts and evidence that contradict them. In that way they are cult-like.
I just skip to the part where you say "perception is reality". No. No, perception is not necessarily. Reality is reality. What we perceive as reality must be checked against the evidence and facts.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The whole “perception is reality” schtick puts me in mind of McLuhan and MadAve.
It is glitteringly evocative, but it does not edify.
Fogdog
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Claiming that "perception is reality" justifies creating a false narrative and claiming it to be true. I read false grievance in @lemondroptrichomes narrative about Trump. For example, "Trump was amped up by others". Really, who? Trump was laying the narrative that the election was rigged long before we even held it. There is no evidence that he was influenced by others to do that. The actions and statements were all Trump's.
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