cannabineer
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After reading about Jr’s latest crackpottery, I’m thinking he won’t siphon Biden votes.
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Trump speech angers family of woman found dead on highway
The sister of murder victim Ruby Garcia said she and her family were home watching live in disbelief as former President Donald Trump told a Michigan audience that he had spoken with “some of her family.”
“He did not speak with any of us, so it was kind of shocking seeing that he had said that he had spoke with us, and misinforming people on live TV,” Ruby Garcia’s sister, Mavi Garcia, told Nexstar’s WOOD.
Mavi Garcia, the family spokesperson, said neither Trump nor anybody from his campaign has contacted her or anybody in her immediate family. She said her family is close and she would know if that had happened.
“It was shocking. I kind of stopped watching it. I’d only seen up to that. After I heard a couple of misinformations he said, I just stopped watching it,” Mavi Garcia said.
Trump spent some of his speech Tuesday focusing on immigration, turning to the March 22 murder of 25-year-old Ruby Garcia. Court records show Brandon Ortiz-Vite, who was in the U.S. illegally, has confessed to killing her and dumping her along US-131 in Grand Rapids.
Man admitted to shooting woman, leaving body beside freeway, records show
While police say the two were a couple, Ruby Garcia’s sister said the two were friends and that the relationship hadn’t gotten that far.
She said she knew that Ortiz-Vite was in the U.S. illegally but didn’t know the details.
“I wish he would have stayed in Mexico,” Mavi Garcia said.
She spoke with the media days after her sister’s shooting, but the family asked for privacy after that, including on the day of the funeral. But she responded immediately to a text from WOOD after Trump’s speech in Grand Rapids on Tuesday.
She said she’s angry that Trump and others have turned her sister’s death into something political.
“It’s always been about illegal immigrants,” Garcia said. “Nobody really speaks about when Americans do heinous crimes, and it’s kind of shocking why he would just bring up illegals. What about Americans who do heinous crimes like that?”
“The focus should be on my sister right now — who she was in life. I want people to remember who she was in life,” she continued.
“She was a very happy person, a very generous person,” she said of her sister. “She was always so happy. Could light up a room.”
Ortiz-Vite is facing five charges, including felony murder and carjacking. He’s expected back in Grand Rapids District Court on April 9.
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The sister of murder victim Ruby Garcia said she and her family were home watching live in disbelief as former President Donald Trump told a Michigan audience that he had spoken with “some of her family.”
“He did not speak with any of us, so it was kind of shocking seeing that he had said that he had spoke with us, and misinforming people on live TV,” Ruby Garcia’s sister, Mavi Garcia, told Nexstar’s WOOD.
Mavi Garcia, the family spokesperson, said neither Trump nor anybody from his campaign has contacted her or anybody in her immediate family. She said her family is close and she would know if that had happened.
“It was shocking. I kind of stopped watching it. I’d only seen up to that. After I heard a couple of misinformations he said, I just stopped watching it,” Mavi Garcia said.
Trump spent some of his speech Tuesday focusing on immigration, turning to the March 22 murder of 25-year-old Ruby Garcia. Court records show Brandon Ortiz-Vite, who was in the U.S. illegally, has confessed to killing her and dumping her along US-131 in Grand Rapids.
Man admitted to shooting woman, leaving body beside freeway, records show
While police say the two were a couple, Ruby Garcia’s sister said the two were friends and that the relationship hadn’t gotten that far.
She said she knew that Ortiz-Vite was in the U.S. illegally but didn’t know the details.
“I wish he would have stayed in Mexico,” Mavi Garcia said.
She spoke with the media days after her sister’s shooting, but the family asked for privacy after that, including on the day of the funeral. But she responded immediately to a text from WOOD after Trump’s speech in Grand Rapids on Tuesday.
She said she’s angry that Trump and others have turned her sister’s death into something political.
“It’s always been about illegal immigrants,” Garcia said. “Nobody really speaks about when Americans do heinous crimes, and it’s kind of shocking why he would just bring up illegals. What about Americans who do heinous crimes like that?”
“The focus should be on my sister right now — who she was in life. I want people to remember who she was in life,” she continued.
“She was a very happy person, a very generous person,” she said of her sister. “She was always so happy. Could light up a room.”
Ortiz-Vite is facing five charges, including felony murder and carjacking. He’s expected back in Grand Rapids District Court on April 9.
Trump speech angers family of woman found dead on highway
The sister of murder victim Ruby Garcia said she and her family were home watching live in disbelief as former President Donald Trump told a Michigan audience that he had spoken with “some of…
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RFK Jr. says CNN cut interview to make him ‘look crazy to liberals’
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. knocked CNN on Tuesday for the way it framed comments he made on the network’s air about the “threat” he said both President Biden and former President Trump pose to the country.
During an interview that aired on Erin Burnett’s program on Monday, Kennedy said he could “make an argument” that Biden is worse than Trump.
“President Biden is a much worse threat to democracy,” Kennedy said. “And the reasons for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first president in history that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech.”
The candidate’s comments were widely circulated across cable news and on social media, drawing some criticism.
Appearing on Chris Cuomo’s prime time show on NewsNation Tuesday night, Kennedy attempted to clarify his remarks.
“What I said was that I can make this argument, and I didn’t say definitively whether I believed one or the other was more dangerous to democracy,” he said. “I did say that I don’t believe either of them are gonna destroy democracy.”
Kennedy went on to criticize CNN for how it framed his comments in an online story accompanying the interview.
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. knocked CNN on Tuesday for the way it framed comments he made on the network’s air about the “threat” he said both President Biden and former President Trump pose to the country.
During an interview that aired on Erin Burnett’s program on Monday, Kennedy said he could “make an argument” that Biden is worse than Trump.
“President Biden is a much worse threat to democracy,” Kennedy said. “And the reasons for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first president in history that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech.”
The candidate’s comments were widely circulated across cable news and on social media, drawing some criticism.
Appearing on Chris Cuomo’s prime time show on NewsNation Tuesday night, Kennedy attempted to clarify his remarks.
“What I said was that I can make this argument, and I didn’t say definitively whether I believed one or the other was more dangerous to democracy,” he said. “I did say that I don’t believe either of them are gonna destroy democracy.”
Kennedy went on to criticize CNN for how it framed his comments in an online story accompanying the interview.
thehill.com/homenews/media/4572163-rfk-jr-says-cnn-cut-interview-to-make-him-look-crazy-to-liberals/
cannabineer
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“That thing records show I said — I didn’t say that!” Sound familiar?
Fogdog
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I sat through the whole interview and took note of some of the shit he said because it didn't seem to jibe with reality. Such as, "the Bush-Kerry election was stolen". "I wrote an article about it in Rolling Stone". He claimed to have gotten awards for that article. Maybe he did but that election was not stolen. Bush mopped the floor with Kerry, end of story. Also, Biden isn't trying to suppress RFK Jr, and he is referring to efforts by health authorities to address Covid misinformation on the internet.
Yes, he participated in the misinformation campaign waged by loony tune antivaxxers against public health and is responsible for unnecessary deaths due to Covid. The courts ruled he was entitled to do that without government interference. OTOH, it wasn't Biden who did that, it had nothing to do with his campaign and it should be a red flag to anybody who wants to avoid contact with crazy mad hatters at the bottom of rabbit holes.
cannabineer
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Yes! Doo eeet
Democratic senator eyeing bill to repeal Comstock Act
Congressional Democrats are strategizing over legislation to repeal the Comstock Act, the 19th-century anti-vice law that’s being eyed by conservative activists to potentially enact a national abor…
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Fogdog
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Listening to what he says, he can be convincing. Like Trump, he shamelessly takes situations out of context to create arguments that contain elements that are true but don't justify the grievances that he uses in his campaign speeches. He's an antivaxxer and a big government-dark state conspiracy theorist who shamelessly distorts the facts. In that interview I listened to, he was adamant that some of his policy positions were to protect the integrity of elections. Which sounds good except our elections, including the one Trump lost, have high integrity. Fixing what aint broke is not good policy. But he wouldn't be shaken off the idea that he was there to protect elections. that don't need the protections that he says are needed.
BudmanTX
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oh i do, i caught him in a clip on CNN where he said "Biden was more dangerous to the US than Trump"......my jaw dropped and i went
viturally of course. I've also seen his Instagram where he does the antivax crap, even Repug Kinzinger is appalled at the guy.........so i know my vote isn't going to that guy. I think he's playing the Jill Stiens play book like she did in 16, get into battle ground states to try to split the vote, now weither he takes Trumps votes and or Biden votes is still up in the air at this point.Personally this guy is a smuck.....
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I’ve noticed Republicans using the “election integrity” moo plop when they’re pushing some state law designed to suppress voters they don’t like.
Like the treason caucus talking about “shoring up” Social Security by gutting it.
I cannot distinguish voting Republican from collective madness.
Fogdog
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I was angry after listening to RFK Jr's interview because he kept pushing the line that all he wants is for our elections to be secure and so we need paper ballots and other measures that will prevent future elections from being stolen. It's a straw man argument. Our elections are already secure. He's a con man. Not any different from the guy from "Microsoft Services" who called me recently tell me my computer's security had been violated.
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Need to see more of this before election time.
Alabama hospital to stop IVF treatments at the end of 2024 due to ‘litigation concerns’
An Alabama hospital said it plans to stop offering in vitro fertilization (IVF) treatments at the end of this year due to “litigation concerns” surrounding the therapy.
Mobile Infirmary said “it will no longer be able to offer” IVF services in a news release on Wednesday. The decision follows Alabama’s Supreme Court ruling that people who destroy frozen embryos can be liable for wrongful death.
“In order to assist families in Alabama and along the Gulf Coast who have initiated the process of IVF therapy in the hopes of starting a family, Mobile Infirmary has temporarily resumed IVF treatments at the hospital,” the hospital said. “However, in light of litigation concerns surrounding IVF therapy, Mobile Infirmary will no longer be able to offer this service to families after December 31, 2024.”
The state’s Supreme Court ruled in February that frozen embryos are children under state law and can be subject to legislation regarding the wrongful death of a minor. The majority decision came after a lawsuit was filed by a group of IVF patients whose frozen embryos were destroyed after a patient removed them from the cryogenic storage unit, dropping them on the floor in December 2020.
Mobile Infirmary was in the mix of the two lawsuits from 2020 and additional litigation following the court’s February ruling.
Following the court’s decision, three hospitals halted offering IVF treatments the following week.
Some clinics resumed after the state’s Gov. Kay Ivey (R) signed new protections for providers and patients last month.
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Alabama hospital to stop IVF treatments at the end of 2024 due to ‘litigation concerns’
An Alabama hospital said it plans to stop offering in vitro fertilization (IVF) treatments at the end of this year due to “litigation concerns” surrounding the therapy.
Mobile Infirmary said “it will no longer be able to offer” IVF services in a news release on Wednesday. The decision follows Alabama’s Supreme Court ruling that people who destroy frozen embryos can be liable for wrongful death.
“In order to assist families in Alabama and along the Gulf Coast who have initiated the process of IVF therapy in the hopes of starting a family, Mobile Infirmary has temporarily resumed IVF treatments at the hospital,” the hospital said. “However, in light of litigation concerns surrounding IVF therapy, Mobile Infirmary will no longer be able to offer this service to families after December 31, 2024.”
The state’s Supreme Court ruled in February that frozen embryos are children under state law and can be subject to legislation regarding the wrongful death of a minor. The majority decision came after a lawsuit was filed by a group of IVF patients whose frozen embryos were destroyed after a patient removed them from the cryogenic storage unit, dropping them on the floor in December 2020.
Mobile Infirmary was in the mix of the two lawsuits from 2020 and additional litigation following the court’s February ruling.
Following the court’s decision, three hospitals halted offering IVF treatments the following week.
Some clinics resumed after the state’s Gov. Kay Ivey (R) signed new protections for providers and patients last month.
Alabama hospital to stop IVF treatments at the end of 2024 due to ‘litigation concerns’
An Alabama hospital said it plans to stop offering in vitro fertilization (IVF) treatments at the end of this year due to “litigation concerns” surrounding the therapy. Mobile Infirmary said …
thehill.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
It’s only a poll, but it suggests that healing the national rift is not impossible. It will require a way to outcompete the neoliberals, who thrive on tribalism.
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Yes, we're divided. But new AP-NORC poll shows Americans still agree on most core American values
A new poll finds that most Americans share many core values on what it means to be an American despite the country’s deep political polarization.
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Sure as hell hope you're right,when a "Kennedy" got into this election,w/no chance of a W to put in his whacko 2 cents I said to myself WHAT NEXT,are there any more out of the blue yonder variables that pop up to aid/abet this whole improbable/nonsensical Trump bid. From a Florida judge seemingly bending backward to accommodate to a Supreme Court(that's what it is STILL called) making dubious decisions benefiting Trump.Manchin had me nervous w/a 3rd party bid,but he did the right thing knowing that Trump would gain from it,then a Kennedy,I repeat a KENNEDY(even if in name only)is going to impact a D victory negatively?? SURREAL.Why chance it,the KENNEDY's need to gather the clan and sit him down for a INTERVENTION and read him the riot act to pull the plug.This needs to be BIDEN vs. TRUMP mano a mano w/ no votes bled off,saw a national poll that had RFK at 11%,Trump in the WHouse at 45% vs. 44%,and RFK 11% is a FKN nightmare,Biden is getting 7-8% of RFK's 11% imo.
printer
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Go Nebraska.
Nebraska lawmakers overwhelmingly reject Trump-backed ‘winner-take-all’ electoral system
An attempt to change Nebraska to a “winner-take-all” Electoral College system failed a key procedural vote late Wednesday, despite support by former President Trump, Gov. Jim Pillen (R) and Sen. Pete Ricketts (R).
Switching Nebraska’s Electoral College vote distribution in the Republican-dominated state would bring it in line with much of the rest of the country and could net Trump an extra vote this November, though an attempt to attach the bill to an unrelated measure as an amendment Wednesday failed by a significant margin.
State Sen. Julie Slama led the amendment push, arguing on the floor that it was the best shot for the bill to pass this legislative session, which ends April 18. Just eight of the needed 23 legislators backed the vote.
On the floor, state Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh argued that the GOP was trying to slip a partisan bill into unrelated work.
“Democracy is on the line!” she said, the Lincoln Journal Star reported.
“I want to throw up. And I want to go to bed. But I can’t, because I don’t trust you,” she added, referring to her Republican colleagues.
Slama said after the vote that the prospects for the bill, which conservative activists said was likely to pass, aren’t as bright as they once seemed.
“The ‘filibuster-proof’ majority doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to make Nebraska a Winner-Take-All state in an election year,” she wrote on X, the platform known as Twitter. “Wild.”
State Sen. Loren Lippincott, who sponsored the bill, admitted after Wednesday’s vote that there is not enough support to avoid a Democratic-led filibuster, needing 33 votes.
Only Nebraska and Maine assign Electoral College votes by district. In most presidential elections, Republicans take two and Democrats take one of Nebraska’s districts, though the third is tightly contested. The state’s remaining two electoral votes are given to its popular vote winner, generally the Republican candidate.
If the bill were to go into effect for the 2024 election, it could cost President Biden an Electoral College vote; Trump won about 58 percent of the vote in Nebraska in 2020, meaning the GOP candidate would get the state’s entire slate of electoral votes in a winner-take-all system.
The effort received a trio of late high-profile endorsements from Pillen, Trump and Ricketts in addition to a grassroots activist push led by right-wing political commentator Charlie Kirk.
Pillen made a late endorsement for the winner-take-all bill Monday, arguing the measure would bring Nebraska in line with the rest of the country and represent “what the founders intended.”
Trump lauded Pillen for the endorsement the next day.
“Governor Jim Pillen of Nebraska, a very smart and popular Governor, who has done some really great things, came out today with a very strong letter in support of returning Nebraska’s Electoral Votes to a Winner-Take-All System,” Trump said Tuesday in a Truth Social post.
“Most Nebraskans have wanted to go back to this system for a very long time, because it’s what 48 other States do — It’s what the Founders intended, and it’s right for Nebraska,” he continued. “Thank you Governor for your bold leadership. Let’s hope the Senate does the right thing. Nebraskans, respectfully ask your Senators to support this Great Bill!”
Ricketts voiced support for the measure after proponents claimed they had assured enough votes to pass. State Sen. Mike McDonnell switched parties from Democrat to Republican on Wednesday, though he said it wouldn’t change how he planned to vote in Nebraska’s nonpartisan unicameral Legislature.
The effort was supported by the Nebraska Freedom Coalition, a conservative activist group, which traded barbs with lawmakers after Wednesday’s vote.
When it became clear that the measure would not pass, Slama accused the group of not doing enough to back the effort, the Lincoln Journal Star reported.
“If you’re gonna tweet out an issue, if you’re gonna put out press releases on an issue and try to pressure the Legislature to do something — maybe when the concept actually comes up and people are voting on it, maybe y’all should do the work,” she said. “Maybe y’all should do the work in the committee hearings when the bill is actually introduced. Rather than firing off a tweet and a press release with five days in the session left.”
The Nebraska Freedom Coalition railed against Slama and other state legislators after the vote, calling for a complete upheaval of party leadership after the failure.
“Maybe just maybe Sen. Slama, it’s not our job to do your job,” the group said in a direct response to the legislator’s comments. “We are everyday citizens with actual jobs and lives. We are not silver spoon appointed establishment wonks who have never experienced a day of real work.”
“God forbid a tweet wakes up a bunch of Senators to do their jobs!” it continued. “Sorry you missed an appointment with your hair stylist because we pushed for a change that you say you overwhelmingly support.”
Slama in a statement to The Hill on Thursday denounced the Nebraska Freedom Coalition as an “underwhelming group of trolls clinging to tweets for relevance.”
“Their only goal appears to be undercutting Republican lawmakers who win elections and actually work to govern,” she said.
Nebraska GOP Chair Eric Underwood pinned blame on the national GOP after the vote failed, saying the Republican National Committee (RNC) refused to use its resources to help the effort.
“I went to the RNC last year — I met with [then-RNC Chair] Ronna McDaniel and said, ‘I think this is something that could happen, but I need outside help,’” he told Kirk in an interview. “I was basically told that it wasn’t much of an importance.”
Biden’s easiest path to victory is generally considered to be a sweep of “blue wall” states — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — plus a single Nebraska vote from Omaha’s electoral district to reach the needed 270 electoral votes.
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Nebraska lawmakers overwhelmingly reject Trump-backed ‘winner-take-all’ electoral system
An attempt to change Nebraska to a “winner-take-all” Electoral College system failed a key procedural vote late Wednesday, despite support by former President Trump, Gov. Jim Pillen (R) and Sen. Pete Ricketts (R).
Switching Nebraska’s Electoral College vote distribution in the Republican-dominated state would bring it in line with much of the rest of the country and could net Trump an extra vote this November, though an attempt to attach the bill to an unrelated measure as an amendment Wednesday failed by a significant margin.
State Sen. Julie Slama led the amendment push, arguing on the floor that it was the best shot for the bill to pass this legislative session, which ends April 18. Just eight of the needed 23 legislators backed the vote.
On the floor, state Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh argued that the GOP was trying to slip a partisan bill into unrelated work.
“Democracy is on the line!” she said, the Lincoln Journal Star reported.
“I want to throw up. And I want to go to bed. But I can’t, because I don’t trust you,” she added, referring to her Republican colleagues.
Slama said after the vote that the prospects for the bill, which conservative activists said was likely to pass, aren’t as bright as they once seemed.
“The ‘filibuster-proof’ majority doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to make Nebraska a Winner-Take-All state in an election year,” she wrote on X, the platform known as Twitter. “Wild.”
State Sen. Loren Lippincott, who sponsored the bill, admitted after Wednesday’s vote that there is not enough support to avoid a Democratic-led filibuster, needing 33 votes.
Only Nebraska and Maine assign Electoral College votes by district. In most presidential elections, Republicans take two and Democrats take one of Nebraska’s districts, though the third is tightly contested. The state’s remaining two electoral votes are given to its popular vote winner, generally the Republican candidate.
If the bill were to go into effect for the 2024 election, it could cost President Biden an Electoral College vote; Trump won about 58 percent of the vote in Nebraska in 2020, meaning the GOP candidate would get the state’s entire slate of electoral votes in a winner-take-all system.
The effort received a trio of late high-profile endorsements from Pillen, Trump and Ricketts in addition to a grassroots activist push led by right-wing political commentator Charlie Kirk.
Pillen made a late endorsement for the winner-take-all bill Monday, arguing the measure would bring Nebraska in line with the rest of the country and represent “what the founders intended.”
Trump lauded Pillen for the endorsement the next day.
“Governor Jim Pillen of Nebraska, a very smart and popular Governor, who has done some really great things, came out today with a very strong letter in support of returning Nebraska’s Electoral Votes to a Winner-Take-All System,” Trump said Tuesday in a Truth Social post.
“Most Nebraskans have wanted to go back to this system for a very long time, because it’s what 48 other States do — It’s what the Founders intended, and it’s right for Nebraska,” he continued. “Thank you Governor for your bold leadership. Let’s hope the Senate does the right thing. Nebraskans, respectfully ask your Senators to support this Great Bill!”
Ricketts voiced support for the measure after proponents claimed they had assured enough votes to pass. State Sen. Mike McDonnell switched parties from Democrat to Republican on Wednesday, though he said it wouldn’t change how he planned to vote in Nebraska’s nonpartisan unicameral Legislature.
The effort was supported by the Nebraska Freedom Coalition, a conservative activist group, which traded barbs with lawmakers after Wednesday’s vote.
When it became clear that the measure would not pass, Slama accused the group of not doing enough to back the effort, the Lincoln Journal Star reported.
“If you’re gonna tweet out an issue, if you’re gonna put out press releases on an issue and try to pressure the Legislature to do something — maybe when the concept actually comes up and people are voting on it, maybe y’all should do the work,” she said. “Maybe y’all should do the work in the committee hearings when the bill is actually introduced. Rather than firing off a tweet and a press release with five days in the session left.”
The Nebraska Freedom Coalition railed against Slama and other state legislators after the vote, calling for a complete upheaval of party leadership after the failure.
“Maybe just maybe Sen. Slama, it’s not our job to do your job,” the group said in a direct response to the legislator’s comments. “We are everyday citizens with actual jobs and lives. We are not silver spoon appointed establishment wonks who have never experienced a day of real work.”
“God forbid a tweet wakes up a bunch of Senators to do their jobs!” it continued. “Sorry you missed an appointment with your hair stylist because we pushed for a change that you say you overwhelmingly support.”
Slama in a statement to The Hill on Thursday denounced the Nebraska Freedom Coalition as an “underwhelming group of trolls clinging to tweets for relevance.”
“Their only goal appears to be undercutting Republican lawmakers who win elections and actually work to govern,” she said.
Nebraska GOP Chair Eric Underwood pinned blame on the national GOP after the vote failed, saying the Republican National Committee (RNC) refused to use its resources to help the effort.
“I went to the RNC last year — I met with [then-RNC Chair] Ronna McDaniel and said, ‘I think this is something that could happen, but I need outside help,’” he told Kirk in an interview. “I was basically told that it wasn’t much of an importance.”
Biden’s easiest path to victory is generally considered to be a sweep of “blue wall” states — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — plus a single Nebraska vote from Omaha’s electoral district to reach the needed 270 electoral votes.
Nebraska lawmakers overwhelmingly reject Trump-backed ‘winner-take-all’ electoral system
An attempt to change Nebraska to a “winner-take-all” Electoral College system failed a key procedural vote late Wednesday, despite support by former President Trump, Gov. Jim Pillen (R) and Sen. Pe…
thehill.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I’m seeing KINO’s current numbers at 8%, down from like 20% months ago.
I also would like to warn against taking polls of unknown method seriously on April about events in November.
If Biden wrestles some Ukraine legislation out of this Congress, his numbers will click up.
If he can keep fuel prices from spiking, more good news.
Defendant otoh is bleeding support as he relentlessly shows us who he is. Just like R talking points, repetition leads to belief. If he loses a Federal case between now and then (I’m thinking Merchan and not Cannon, unles Eleventh Circuit yanks her fraudulent ass and installs a go-getter) his support will sag.
KINO, now, keeps inserting hoof into esophagus every time he spouts woo that was fresh in the days of Qanon but is getting a bit rancid now. The trend has been him losing support, and unless he sells his soul to the devil (with all the Republican applications being processed, I hear there’s a waiting list) I see him not having the effect a more successful third-party spoiler might have had.
But the key point is that polls now should be treated with indifference, since they are a news substitute stealing bandwidth from news grounded in sh*t that actually happened.
Understand,but in an election that may be decided by razor thin margins KINO grabbing ANY votes both irks and concerns me,I'm hoping something on Trumps end goes down to take him OFF the table for independent/undecided minds,you know common sense tells us that come DECISION time any sane person not in the MAGA tank will have a lightbulb moment that they just can't in good conscience pull the trigger on a vote for Trump, HOPEFULLY,that said this guy has defied all logic and I find it forboding,like I said I'd like to see something let some air out of the balloon prior to the election cause if it were TODAY,it'd be sweating bullets time.
printer
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No Labels packs it up, won’t put forth a presidential ticket
The centrist group No Labels is ending its attempt to put forth a third-party presidential ticket after failing to find candidates to lead it.
“Americans remain more open to an independent presidential run and hungrier for unifying national leadership than ever before,” the group said in a statement. “But No Labels has always said we would only offer our ballot line to a ticket if we could identify candidates with a credible path to winning the White House. No such candidates emerged, so the responsible course of action is for us to stand down.”
The Wall Street Journal first reported that No Labels was abandoning their plans.
No Labels had sought to raise tens of millions of dollars to support a unity ticket and worked to gain access to the ballot in a significant number of states. The group claimed to have done so in 21.
But it never succeeded in convincing a prominent politician to run under its banner. Among those it sought to recruit included Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. As rejections piled up, the group looked at lower ranking officials, including former lieutenant governor of Georgia, Geoff Duncan. But he too declined.
“I still think it was a valiant effort but the grip of the two party system won’t let go despite their failures,” said former Republican North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory, who was a national co-chair of the organization until he resigned a few weeks ago.
The end of the bid comes at a time when the group is mourning its co-founder, Joe Lieberman, who died last week at the age of 82.
The group’s decision not to field a ticket will likely be celebrated by Democrats, who had long warned that No Labels’ effort would have helped boost Donald Trump and harm President Joe Biden.
The group, in its statement, said it will “remain engaged over the next year during what is likely to be the most divisive presidential election of our lifetimes. We will promote dialogue around major policy challenges and call out both sides when they speak and act in bad faith.”
politico.com/news/2024/04/04/no-labels-no-presidential-ticket-00150627
The centrist group No Labels is ending its attempt to put forth a third-party presidential ticket after failing to find candidates to lead it.
“Americans remain more open to an independent presidential run and hungrier for unifying national leadership than ever before,” the group said in a statement. “But No Labels has always said we would only offer our ballot line to a ticket if we could identify candidates with a credible path to winning the White House. No such candidates emerged, so the responsible course of action is for us to stand down.”
The Wall Street Journal first reported that No Labels was abandoning their plans.
No Labels had sought to raise tens of millions of dollars to support a unity ticket and worked to gain access to the ballot in a significant number of states. The group claimed to have done so in 21.
But it never succeeded in convincing a prominent politician to run under its banner. Among those it sought to recruit included Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. As rejections piled up, the group looked at lower ranking officials, including former lieutenant governor of Georgia, Geoff Duncan. But he too declined.
“I still think it was a valiant effort but the grip of the two party system won’t let go despite their failures,” said former Republican North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory, who was a national co-chair of the organization until he resigned a few weeks ago.
The end of the bid comes at a time when the group is mourning its co-founder, Joe Lieberman, who died last week at the age of 82.
The group’s decision not to field a ticket will likely be celebrated by Democrats, who had long warned that No Labels’ effort would have helped boost Donald Trump and harm President Joe Biden.
The group, in its statement, said it will “remain engaged over the next year during what is likely to be the most divisive presidential election of our lifetimes. We will promote dialogue around major policy challenges and call out both sides when they speak and act in bad faith.”
politico.com/news/2024/04/04/no-labels-no-presidential-ticket-00150627
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Polls this far out are no signal and all noise. Imo it is somewhat reprehensible for mainstream media to talk them up. Don’t let “not news” harsh your mellow.
I can practically guarantee that current polls will not present the picture seven months from today.
Even then, the only poll that really matters is the one for which they mail you a ballot.