Weirdly big calyx starting or herm?

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Kaloar

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So I started this plant January 1st. It’s been through a lot, I stunted it, over and under watered it. Over clipped it a few times, was going to kill it off and then it started to flower in a room that had a male release pollen before flower started.
I’ve had light leak, forgot to shut the lights off, left only red light on overnight. Basically I’ve done everything wrong, but she’s sticky and starting to flower nicely. Today I looked and on the bottom of two of the tops there’s huge calyx’s and was wondering if that’s truly what they are, their pretty hard but it’s only week 3 of true flower and no pollen actually touched the plant. So could it be a seed? Or a herm starting from stress or is this just a sign of some nice big juicy buds starting? It’s got brown hairs which i found really weird. Thanks in advance, 110w of panel led in 3x3 with random bag seed.IMG_0038.jpeg
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

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Phytoplankton said:
It's a female, the caylxes at the nodes often get very large and swollen, because they're older. Down the line, think about getting more light, you should be running about 270-350 watts in a 3x3 space.
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It can help to look at the buds and when they are plump like those old calyxes they’re usually ripe for the picking
 
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TheWholeTruth

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You"ll know its seed as the single calyx will have a pistol coming out of it. That pistol if polinated and a seed is growing will quickly goes orange and withers up.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Kaloar said:
So I started this plant January 1st. It’s been through a lot, I stunted it, over and under watered it. Over clipped it a few times, was going to kill it off and then it started to flower in a room that had a male release pollen before flower started.
I’ve had light leak, forgot to shut the lights off, left only red light on overnight. Basically I’ve done everything wrong, but she’s sticky and starting to flower nicely. Today I looked and on the bottom of two of the tops there’s huge calyx’s and was wondering if that’s truly what they are, their pretty hard but it’s only week 3 of true flower and no pollen actually touched the plant. So could it be a seed? Or a herm starting from stress or is this just a sign of some nice big juicy buds starting? It’s got brown hairs which i found really weird. Thanks in advance, 110w of panel led in 3x3 with random bag seed.View attachment 5392264
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I would worry more about lack of lighting to push flowering. 110w aint gonna cut it … especially since it grew a bit lanky ( lowers will get even less lighting ) .

It will probably be a bit light on yield at end.
 
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TheWholeTruth

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Boatguy said:
Absolutely the worst take on the question. Are you in the habit of removing all calyx with brown hairs in order to check for seeds?

If you are you are spending more time destroying your plant than growing it.
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Why if ive purposly polinated would i then pull the calyx off before the seeds done. Ther is no reson he sould have a withered up pistol at the stage he his at unless the pistol is polinated. Thats just nature. Its what happens, the calyx no longer needs to stay fresh or grow as its polinated and done its invidual job. The plants defo not at week 7 pluss of flower were some pistols are starting to age so no worry of confusing ripe pistols to polinated pistols. Anyway i wouldnt advise to remove them no just leave them, better just to remove the source of pollen so more dont get pollinated.
 
Boatguy

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TheWholeTruth said:
Why if ive purposly polinated would i then pull the calyx off before the seeds done. Ther is no reson he sould have a withered up pistol at the stage he his at unless the pistol is polinated. Thats just nature. Its what happens, the calyx no longer needs to stay fresh or grow as its polinated and done its invidual job. The plants defo not at week 7 pluss of flower were some pistols are starting to age so no worry of confusing ripe pistols to polinated pistols. Anyway i wouldnt advise to remove them no just leave them, better just to remove the source of pollen so more dont get pollinated.
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Funny you just made this about you.
The op was just asking about brown hairs on an old calyx
 
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TheWholeTruth

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Boatguy said:
Funny you just made this about you.
The op was just asking about brown hairs on an old calyx
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Forgive me, may be im misscomunicating.

Ok to clarify: at this stage of the plant every calyx that looks over blown and big has a withered over ripe pistol coming out of it. At this stage his plant has no reson to have overipe pistols on calyxs looking like that. On a plant when a pistol gets polinated it withers and goes brown/red and the calyx will swell. At this stage of his plants life there is no reson for every swelling calyx to have pistols that no longer need polinating as its in very early stages of flower and everything should be fresh and white unless damaged. Tell tell sign its ( in particular every swollen caylx that has a witherd pistol. I hazard a guess and say they all got polinated probably in the same couple of days) been polinated, before having to pull anything off the plant.
 
Boatguy

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TheWholeTruth said:
Forgive me, may be im misscomunicating.

Ok to clarify: at this stage of the plant every calyx that looks over blown and big has a withered over ripe pistol coming out of it. At this stage his plant has no reson to have overipe pistols on calyxs looking like that. On a plant when a pistol gets polinated it withers and goes brown/red and the calyx will swell. At this stage of his plants life there is no reson for every swelling calyx to have pistols that no longer need polinating as its in very early stages of flower and everything should be fresh and white unless damaged. Tell tell sign its been polinated, before having to pull anything off the plant.
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If growing photoperiod plants and vegging til they show sex, swollen calyx at the base of the branches is normal in early veg. The brown hairs do not mean anything has been pollinated.
Many other things cause premature browning of the hairs, burning,spraying, touching etc. but it is not a reason to panic.
We could probably fill a stadium with the amount of good product folks have thrown away for no good reason
 
conor c

conor c

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Could just be swollen but it could be a seed ul see at the end or just before it if it cracks the casing as seeds sometimes do that when they ready ime
 
Beeswings

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Boatguy said:
If growing photoperiod plants and vegging til they show sex, swollen calyx at the base of the branches is normal in early veg. The brown hairs do not mean anything has been pollinated.
Many other things cause premature browning of the hairs, burning,spraying, touching etc. but it is not a reason to panic.
We could probably fill a stadium with the amount of good product folks have thrown away for no good reason
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A sex showing calyx from a node is considered product to you?
 
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TheWholeTruth

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I did say a fresh pistol on a seed plant in week 2-3 can go brown red due to damage. But im fairly certain wen you have a certain number of calyxs that look like they have seed and every single one of those and only those calyxs have a pistol coming out of it that shows signs of polination and is withered and red brown , then i would look at it as a good sign their pollinated. And i would look at it as the chances of every single calyx that is swollen like that and only those to have a damaged pistol on the plant are probably not very realistick as dammaged pistols will be in certain areas unless if caused by virus or pest. Its just one of the tools you can use to read the plant. Im in no way saying use these certaing visual signs to then pull your plant apart. All it is is knowledge you can use in your arsnal when growing these plants. And its not really something you should ignore thinking its some bro science as all of the signs i am saying are scientific signs of a biological process and you can easily look it up and profesional botologists would also use similar signs ( the exact same if growing this plant) to tell if pistols are polinated.

There is more than one old calyx with a seed. From what i can see is soon as the plant showed pistols those first few pistols on the plant got polinated. Looks like the polen donor only was around a day or two as the pistol and growth after that looks fine. There could be some issues with bannans due to all the stress to look out for on that plant but the pollen donor that got those pistols at the time of the picture you can see from the rest of the growth got removed quickly. You can tell all that from using certain tools just from the pic at that time.
 
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Boatguy

Boatguy

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Beeswings said:
A sex showing calyx from a node is considered product to you?
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I was just pointing out the silliness of chasing every swollen calyx with brown pistils. Even if a seed was found, what then... chop your only plant down and start over again?
 
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