Made seeds non auto or feminized, all beans popped came out female

marsuzano99

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I crossed some strains, and this is my 3rd generation into breeding 11 different crosses. I popped 10 seeds and all came out female. Should I be worried? One of the mothers was feminized, but I didn’t think that feminization was passed through to its offspring. Was I just lucky? Never happened before for the first to rounds of crossing.
 
I crossed some strains, and this is my 3rd generation into breeding 11 different crosses. I popped 10 seeds and all came out female. Should I be worried? One of the mothers was feminized, but I didn’t think that feminization was passed through to its offspring. Was I just lucky? Never happened before for the first to rounds of crossing.
could be just the case but perhaps partially passed fem-genes. Though, not likely if it was breeded with a male and not hermie...yet, if you breeded female with hermie then surely the seeds are feminised
 

marsuzano99

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could be just the case but perhaps partially passed fem-genes. Though, not likely if it was breeded with a male and not hermie...yet, if you breeded female with hermie then surely the seeds are feminised
Why would female x hermie feminize? I want to understand why that would be the case genetically
 

GenericEnigma

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I crossed some strains, and this is my 3rd generation into breeding 11 different crosses. I popped 10 seeds and all came out female. Should I be worried? One of the mothers was feminized, but I didn’t think that feminization was passed through to its offspring. Was I just lucky? Never happened before for the first to rounds of crossing.
If you pollenated a female with a male and ten of those seeds all grew female at once, go buy a lottery ticket. That's some hella luck.

Feminization won't "pass through" like that.
 

MAD.SCIENTIST

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Why would female x hermie feminize? I want to understand why that would be the case genetically
When a female plant hermies, the seeds if it self pollinated will all be female. Same if you use hermie pollen on another female cannabis plant.
You need pollen from a male cannabis plant to give male and female seeds.
When a female plant hermies, it's just the same as when you reverse a female using colloidal silver, gibberellic acid or silver thiosulphate - it's female (XX) pollen and does not contain male (XY) genes.
 

marsuzano99

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It was two plants that got seeded, maybe it was a hermie pollen that hit both causing them all to be female.
 

TheWholeTruth

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When a female plant hermies, the seeds if it self pollinated will all be female. Same if you use hermie pollen on another female cannabis plant.
You need pollen from a male cannabis plant to give male and female seeds.
When a female plant hermies, it's just the same as when you reverse a female using colloidal silver, gibberellic acid or silver thiosulphate - it's female (XX) pollen and does not contain male (XY) genes.
Thats actualy incorect. As males can still be found in feminised seed. If you grow a 1000 seeds of any feminised strain you will probably find a male or female plants with male parts. All your doing with fem seeds would be a bit like taking a xy plant and just fertilizing it with the x rather than xy. So it would be like a xy seed line with the X doubled up or kind of like xyx pushing the majority of seed to show female traits. But they wont be all gauranted female or deviod of any male traits, you just bend nature to push the favour in your odds of having mostly females.
 

TheWholeTruth

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I crossed some strains, and this is my 3rd generation into breeding 11 different crosses. I popped 10 seeds and all came out female. Should I be worried? One of the mothers was feminized, but I didn’t think that feminization was passed through to its offspring. Was I just lucky? Never happened before for the first to rounds of crossing.
Yeah it does happen. Using feminised plants with a normal male csn increase the chances of more seed being female. Ther are some seedlines about were its harder to find males. I suspect the breeder who started those seeds out used selfed plants in the breeding project. Feminised seeds wen they first came out wasnt originaly supposed to be used in breeding ( unless no other choice) they supposed to be used for plants for flowering.
 

MAD.SCIENTIST

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Thats actualy incorect. As males can still be found in feminised seed. If you grow a 1000 seeds of any feminised strain you will probably find a male or female plants with male parts. All your doing with fem seeds would be a bit like taking a xy plant and just fertilizing it with the x rather than xy. So it would be like a xy seed line with the X doubled up or kind of like xyx pushing the majority of seed to show female traits. But they wont be all gauranted female or deviod of any male traits, you just bend nature to push the favour in your odds of having mostly females.
Ah that might explain why a 'feminised' seed that I grew of barney's farm peppermint kush some years back was male when it flowered (I was rather disappointed lol).
I guess it would make sense from a plant species survival point of view to have a very small percentage of the seeds from hermie'ing to have male genetics. At the time I thought maybe they'd packaged up some regular seeds by accident instead of feminised.
 

MAD.SCIENTIST

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Will this result in herms? Or will this just run as female if I don’t stress them too hard?
Well breeders usually tend to avoid using females that have tendencies to hermie in breeding, but there are of course plenty of strains that contain genetics from plants that often hermie. Personally hermies don't bother me as I'll get fem seeds from it and I only grow for some smoke for myself.
But the strain I've been growing for years now (shit - mr nice (oldskool roadkill type skunk) x pakistan valley indica) has never hermied on me to the best of my knowledge.
I think some of your seeds might grow hermie's and most wont. If you didn't notice any nana's, then maybe it was only a very small amount of male flowers and it could have been triggered by stress.
 
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