Thinking about ditching the trellis increasing my plant count and going a la natural

[NICK72690]

So this round I’m thinking of taking a new approach, 12 plants 5 gal soil in my 5x5, minimal training, no more months of veg time, and having various plants at different stages, when some finish they get chopped and replaced with ones from the veg tent, thoughts? Effects on yield?just sick of the long veg time to completely fill a trellis canopy

 

[Thundercat]

I’m a big fan of short veg and higher plant counts. I ran a SOG for 10+ years.

 

[NICK72690]

It’s not so much sea of green but it’s sea of green ish, my thought is there will be less larf and timing should be easier as well what do you think?

 

[ProPheT 216]

Here is another option.. procession growing. Say each plant goes an average of 9 or 10 weeks. So if your tent can hold 5 nice plants, add 1 every 2 weeks to flower. At 10 weeks when it's time for plant 6 plant 1 will be finishing and you can swap. Just continue the cycle. Now you can harvest 1 plant every 10 days to 2 weeks basically forever.

 

[NICK72690]

That’s what I’m getting at, harvesting plants more often instead of obsessing over yield and filling every square of trellis and doing aggressive defoliation and such, used to think the flower time was the long wait now I’m leaning more towards the fact that vegging takes the more time, I kind of just want a veg tent, and a flower tent, simple put the plants in at a certain high label them with dates and let ‘em go

 

[ProPheT 216]

Use a closet as a veg room, stick a auto in there to pay the bills.

I found even 1 plant every week was more manageable on myself than 10 all at once. 7 or 8 is a good number to run like that, gives your calendar some flex and you a extra week off sometimes. I would run 4 or 5 photos in the tent and 2 or 3 autos in my new veg area

 

[NICK72690]

Autos in my veg tent I like that ideas lol I never ran autos

 

[Star Dog]

I'm also a fan of short veg periods and shorter flowering hours for more variety and a faster turnaround while trading a little yeild (on paper at least)

Less hrs gives more compact plant and quicker into/out of flower.
They're around 45 days since flip here.



With a seperate drying area 6 harvests a year without too much trouble.

 

[.Smoke]

I'm also a fan of short veg periods and shorter flowering hours for more variety and a faster turnaround while trading a little yeild (on paper at least)
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Less hrs gives more compact plant and quicker into/out of flower.
They're around 45 days since flip here.
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With a seperate drying area 6 harvests a year without too much trouble.

How many plants are in the tent and what was your veg time?

 

[SouthFloridaGenetics]

So this round I’m thinking of taking a new approach, 12 plants 5 gal soil in my 5x5, minimal training, no more months of veg time, and having various plants at different stages, when some finish they get chopped and replaced with ones from the veg tent, thoughts? Effects on yield?just sick of the long veg time to completely fill a trellis canopy

This works and I think you might like it. I have a 4 x 12 area and cut 3-4 plants monthly and have several ready to insert from the 3 x 6 veg tent. I don't use the net anymore, only 36" garden stakes. It's a much easier garden to work in and the flow is perfect for perpetual yield. I cut about 48 plants per year doing this and using high frequency fertigation. I look forward to seeing your pictures and hearing your opinion as you experience this style of growing. I like you too. Just sayin.

 

[Star Dog]

How many plants are in the tent and what was your veg time?

Hey bud, there's 12 this crop, 18 last crop in about 3.5x5 I've room for more, I keep space free for me to get in.

Veg time depends?
From seed 5/10 days @24hrs then 4/5 weeks vegging in 12-12 (t5s) untill sexed then re pot them to flower so day #1 they're already in flowering mode.



I'm trying to keep control of the height so I don't re pot until after sexing and partially through stretch...it's a work in progress.

Ime big root balls and long vegging periods are overrated.

 

[Star Dog]

Hey folk's, as a alternative to vegging with a net in place...imo it's brain damage!

Veg your plants as you would for a say month then bend them over and put the net over them.



The whole transition was around two weeks the whole story is somewhere if anyone's interested.

Green house seeds King's juice

I soaked the seeds on Saturday 1st August, they had sprouted and were potted on Sunday the 2nd August Photo Sunday the 8th. Straight into 6ltr pots, course coco + canna coco mix 50/50 and a splash of perlite.

www.rollitup.org

 

[budman111]

That’s what I’m getting at, harvesting plants more often instead of obsessing over yield and filling every square of trellis

A lot of growers do this to reduce the risk of getting caught with multiple plants

 

[conor c]

Hey bud, there's 12 this crop, 18 last crop in about 3.5x5 I've room for more, I keep space free for me to get in.

Veg time depends?
From seed 5/10 days @24hrs then 4/5 weeks vegging in 12-12 (t5s) untill sexed then re pot them to flower so day #1 they're already in flowering mode.
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I'm trying to keep control of the height so I don't re pot until after sexing and partially through stretch...it's a work in progress.
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Ime big root balls and long vegging periods are overrated.

Aye the space is needed I hate when u can't move around plants properly obviously the end everyone is tight on space but that goes with the territory

So this round I’m thinking of taking a new approach, 12 plants 5 gal soil in my 5x5, minimal training, no more months of veg time, and having various plants at different stages, when some finish they get chopped and replaced with ones from the veg tent, thoughts? Effects on yield?just sick of the long veg time to completely fill a trellis canopy

I reckon you might lose a wee bit per harvest however when you add up the extra harvests per year it definitely makes up for it id give it a try see what you prefer

 

[conor c]

A lot of growers do this to reduce the risk of getting caught with multiple plants

Aye that's why many folk graft and have mother plants holding many strains on the one plant sure it's cool and all but it's down to trying to keep plant counts down and save space more than anything I think

 

[NICK72690]

Thanks for the responses! Just flipped to flower now, 12 of the same strain, will give them grow nutes for about the first three weeks then bloom, predictable stretch I been running this strain for years, will harvest one row at 8 weeks like usual and one row I wanna push to 10 weeks just to see, adding another row from the veg tent as I go! Under my Scorpion Diablo, will also be keeping mothers as I can take bigger clones from the well established plants, replacing a mother every 3 months or so

 

[NICK72690]

Also with the colder months I plan to veg under metal halide, I think they just hit the ground running and stay more stacked that way

 

[NICK72690]

Aye the space is needed I hate when u can't move around plants properly obviously the end everyone is tight on space but that goes with the territory


I reckon you might lose a wee bit per harvest however when you add up the extra harvests per year it definitely makes up for it id give it a try see what you prefer

That’s what I’m thinking, make trimming easier as well, always get larf with a rig but then again my scrogs are never perfect coming from clones

 

[conor c]

Thanks for the responses! Just flipped to flower now, 12 of the same strain, will give them grow nutes for about the first three weeks then bloom, predictable stretch I been running this strain for years, will harvest one row at 8 weeks like usual and one row I wanna push to 10 weeks just to see, adding another row from the veg tent as I go! Under my Scorpion Diablo, will also be keeping mothers as I can take bigger clones from the well established plants, replacing a mother every 3 months or so

Sounds like a plan mate

 

[ProPheT 216]

What awesome photos and strategies.