Gorilla Cookies Autoflower from FastBuds

[Delps8]

I think it paid off! I did a little looking up of this strain before growing and the breeder claimed it handled defoliation well. I have to agree!

A couple of comments:

If you spend some time reading through descriptions on seed vendors sites, you should pick up pretty quickly that the verbiage is reused. I won't say that it's all bullshit but the same hackneyed phrases are repeated over and over again.

Re chopping off leaves - it sounds like your plants regrew the leaves that you cut off. That's great. You now have as many leaves as you did before but your plant hasn't grown as much becayse instead of growing a larger plant, the plant had to replace the ones that you cut off. No reason not to keep doing that so that you'll have nice fresh leaves when you cut the plant down and throw the leaves out.

My goal is to maximize crop yield and quality and to maximize cannabanoids. I have zero belief and have never see any evidence that a cutting off leaves and getting the plant to regrow them will accomplish my goals.

 

[Delps8]

This actually sounds like a really fun experiment! I am totally doing this next! I am going to setup my 2x2 and start growing a mother immediately! I recently bought a nice camera so I will document the whole thing. Thank you for this wonderful idea! Such an easy thing to test as well.

"Such an easy thing to test as well." Quite so.

 

[chafin96]

A couple of comments:

If you spend some time reading through descriptions on seed vendors sites, you should pick up pretty quickly that the verbiage is reused. I won't say that it's all bullshit but the same hackneyed phrases are repeated over and over again.

Re chopping off leaves - it sounds like your plants regrew the leaves that you cut off. That's great. You now have as many leaves as you did before but your plant hasn't grown as much becayse instead of growing a larger plant, the plant had to replace the ones that you cut off. No reason not to keep doing that so that you'll have nice fresh leaves when you cut the plant down and throw the leaves out.

My goal is to maximize crop yield and quality and to maximize cannabanoids. I have zero belief and have never see any evidence that a cutting off leaves and getting the plant to regrow them will accomplish my goals.

What I was referring to was a video I watched which was a strain review of the Gorilla Cookies Auto. As far as the defoliation, I only defoliates lower branches/leaves. Which they did not grow back. I took a photo from a better angle to show how the lower portion of the plant looks. As far as my reasons for defoliating, it's not about yield for me really. It's more a out convenience and pest/mold resistance. Most flying insect pests have a harder time landing in an area where there is good air circulation. Mold tends to be more common in areas with stagnant air and high humidity. Opening the plant up a little doesn't hurt it. People see amazing yields with these techniques all the time.

 

[Delps8]

What I was referring to was a video I watched which was a strain review of the Gorilla Cookies Auto. As far as the defoliation, I only defoliates lower branches/leaves. Which they did not grow back. I took a photo from a better angle to show how the lower portion of the plant looks. As far as my reasons for defoliating, it's not about yield for me really. It's more a out convenience and pest/mold resistance. Most flying insect pests have a harder time landing in an area where there is good air circulation. Mold tends to be more common in areas with stagnant air and high humidity. Opening the plant up a little doesn't hurt it. People see amazing yields with these techniques all the time.
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My comment about reused verbiage would be applicable to videos - new format, same message. Cannabis plants are fundamentally the same that's why they're all cannabis cannabis. If there were marked differences, they wouldn't be cannabis cannabis. Sure the flowers have different colors and a different scent, etc., etc but functionally, they're cannabis cannabis.

I remove branches that are thinner than a pencil. That works well because my plants tend to be quite large but the idea is to remove anything that won't produce a mature bud.

Removing leaves to ensure air flow is a very valid reason. I lost really nice plant to bud rot early last year. It was a real heart breaker.

"People see amazing yields with these techniques all the time." I have a no doubt that growers are very pleased with the outcomes and it would be great if there was actual data about it.

 

[chafin96]

My comment about reused verbiage would be applicable to videos - new format, same message. Cannabis plants are fundamentally the same that's why they're all cannabis cannabis. If there were marked differences, they wouldn't be cannabis cannabis. Sure the flowers have different colors and a different scent, etc., etc but functionally, they're cannabis cannabis.

I remove branches that are thinner than a pencil. That works well because my plants tend to be quite large but the idea is to remove anything that won't produce a mature bud.

Removing leaves to ensure air flow is a very valid reason. I lost really nice plant to bud rot early last year. It was a real heart breaker.

"People see amazing yields with these techniques all the time." I have a no doubt that growers are very pleased with the outcomes and it would be great if there was actual data about it.

I DM'd you I think lol.

 

[cat shit]

Nice looking plant!

My first five grows were autos and they can be beasts.

I grow my autos 24/0 until flower and then 21/3 or 20/4 after that. Cannabis is a light whore loves light and autos thrive under high light conditions just like photoperiods do. In terms of light, I would guess that a good hang height and dimmer setting would be 14" at 50% power. That's a guess based on the PPFD map here. Most growers are timid when it comes to turn up the dimmer switch which is too bad because that's the only way that plants make food. I strongly recommend spending $32 for a Unit-T light meter and getting lots of light on your grow. Cannabis is a prolific yielder when it's well fed.

Another thing - leaves are the solar panels for plants and there's very little need to remove leaves, well as far as the plant is concerned, that is. If in doubt, leave it on the plant. Not only do leaves generate food for a plant but they also act as nutrient stores. When the plant is in flower, it will move nutrients from the older leaves to the newer leaves at the top of the plant. As that happens, the leaf will turn yellow and wither ("senesce") . At that point, it's of no value to the plant so you can snip them off. That's a general guideline. Other folks will chime in as your grow progresses.

Keep up the good work!

Great advice, the uni-T is a game changer if you can't afford a apogee or whatever, I wouldn't trust phone apps to measure light levels, and I never remove leaves if I don't need to. Those big lower leaves always let you know what's happening to your plant, I've defoliated photoperiods and I think that benefits them but with my autos I leave them be. Here is two lemon ak autos at 11 weeks and I'd be in a world of shit if I removed any leaves throughout this grow. And I learnt pretty quick to keep the tent door closed when dialing in ppfd dli etc

 

[Delps8]

Great advice, the uni-T is a game changer if you can't afford a apogee or whatever, I wouldn't trust phone apps to measure light levels, and I never remove leaves if I don't need to. Those big lower leaves always let you know what's happening to your plant, I've defoliated photoperiods and I think that benefits them but with my autos I leave them be. Here is two lemon ak autos at 11 weeks and I'd be in a world of shit if I removed any leaves throughout this grow. And I learnt pretty quick to keep the tent door closed when dialing in ppfd dli etc

Nice looking plants!

Re. Uni-T vs the Apogee. Even if the Apogee isn't a signficant expense, the only reason I'd go for it is that it makes it really easy to sample a canopy. In addition to the Apogee, I bought the Uni-T for testing/learning, and then bought the Uni-T BT model to see how they'd incorporated BT.

The nice thing about the Apogee is that it has a sample mode which allows me to move the sensor in various places around the canopy and then press a button on the handset to record the PPFD. It is more accurate than the Uni-T, probably, but it's also 20 times the price so, even if someone is flush, I'd probably recommend the Uni-T instead of the Apogee.

What was a bit of a letdown was that Uni-T didn't do much with the BT model besides adding BT. I was hoping that they'd add a logging feature but instead, they just added the ability to set a sampling frequency and the ability to create a download file. I tried it out about a year ago and was left wanting. On the other hand, the price stayed the same and so it's 1/20 the price of the Apogee.

Re. keeping the door closed - if that's the case, do you set the sample rate to 1 every few seconds? And, I agree about open vs closed. For my "front row" it works out to about 100µmol. What difference are you seeing in readings?

Re. phone apps - my thinking is that as long as you set them up right (use a diffuser on the iPhone) and can calibrate it against a known good source then it should be OK. Unfortunately, the tests that I've seen, with the exception of Photone, show that some of the apps have varying levels of accuracy for different light levels. That' very no bueno. When I tested Photone, it was 16% high but at least it was consistent. Given that you have to use a paper strip (an absolute kludge but it's needed for under stable reasons) or spend the $$ on a diffuser, I'd rather just get a light meter and use a crib sheet to convert to PPFD. Or just think in terms of lux. Either way works.

One thing that hit me a few weeks ago — a light meter will tell you how much light is hitting you canopy but only your plants can tell you how much light they can use. That's why I'm not all that hyped up about getting an Apogee even if a grower has the disposable income.

I was an artillery officer so I'd describe using a meter as light adjusting fire. You get the first round into the area and then move it left or right and "add" or "drop" a certain distance. A light meter is very similar to that. Even with an Apogee, you're setting the light to a certain level but only the plant can tell you just how much light it can use.

"world of shit if I removed any leaves throughout this grow." - and RIU has a great acronym for that. I chuckled the first time I saw "LTFA" and it's just so true!

 

[DoubleD5374]

excuse the pisspoor trim and picture lol. This is by far my favorite phenotype from my 10 gorilla cookies . Definitely leaning toward the GG side , has that undeniable glue flavor , with skunky/earthy gassy aroma .

currently waiting for my speedrun autos to finish up in my 4x4 tent . Hoping to see some super high quality autos there as well !

 

[chafin96]

excuse the pisspoor trim and picture lol. This is by far my favorite phenotype from my 10 gorilla cookies . Definitely leaning toward the GG side , has that undeniable glue flavor , with skunky/earthy gassy aroma .

currently waiting for my speedrun autos to finish up in my 4x4 tent . Hoping to see some super high quality autos there as well !

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I like to leave some of the smaller leaf material as well. It is very smokable and it has a lot of trichomes.

 

[cat shit]

excuse the pisspoor trim and picture lol. This is by far my favorite phenotype from my 10 gorilla cookies . Definitely leaning toward the GG side , has that undeniable glue flavor , with skunky/earthy gassy aroma .

currently waiting for my speedrun autos to finish up in my 4x4 tent . Hoping to see some super high quality autos there as well !

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Nice looking flower, this is zkittles auto from fast buds recently harvested dried and been curing for a month I won't grow it again as they have much more interesting strains I wanna try. its extremely hard to get US genetics into Australia however I am lucky enough to have a friend America I did 5 zkittles in a 3/3 with ok results

 

[chafin96]

Nice looking flower, this is zkittles auto from fast buds recently harvested dried and been curing for a month I won't grow it again as they have much more interesting strains I wanna try. its extremely hard to get US genetics into Australia however I am lucky enough to have a friend America I did 5 zkittles in a 3/3 with ok results

It definitely appears to produce some nice bud though.

 

[DoubleD5374]

Nice looking flower, this is zkittles auto from fast buds recently harvested dried and been curing for a month I won't grow it again as they have much more interesting strains I wanna try. its extremely hard to get US genetics into Australia however I am lucky enough to have a friend America I did 5 zkittles in a 3/3 with ok results

I was lucky enough to find some beans in a batch of greasy runtz - from exotic genetics .

to this day it’s been the best smoke I’ve ever had , I plants 100 beans and 80 popped - all female , and its been amazing ..

Yeah fast buds is all over the place for sure . I’m sticking with speedrun and night owl , for my autos . I have 4 random speedrun seeds going in a 4x4 tent - I’ll be posting up bud shots of soon.

This is a 3 week old flower on a greasy runtz - everyone says exotic is not stabilized but I’m only seeing 4 variations for the most part out of 80 mothers which is pretty wild . I’ve got some bad leaf septoria going on that’s threatening my field - I’m not gonna yield like I wanted to but it’s definitely forcing a few to flower that are getting hammered by it

also included is a picture of a gorilla glue mother I’ve got rocking . This thing is an absolute tank

 

[cat shit]

I was lucky enough to find some beans in a batch of greasy runtz - from exotic genetics .

to this day it’s been the best smoke I’ve ever had , I plants 100 beans and 80 popped - all female , and its been amazing ..

Yeah fast buds is all over the place for sure . I’m sticking with speedrun and night owl , for my autos . I have 4 random speedrun seeds going in a 4x4 tent - I’ll be posting up bud shots of soon.

This is a 3 week old flower on a greasy runtz - everyone says exotic is not stabilized but I’m only seeing 4 variations for the most part out of 80 mothers which is pretty wild . I’ve got some bad leaf septoria going on that’s threatening my field - I’m not gonna yield like I wanted to but it’s definitely forcing a few to flower that are getting hammered by it

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That's an awesome looking garden you've got there I can't grow outdoors here where I am in aus due to the law but more so theives and living in the burbs doesn't help. It's always nice to have plants without issues but that's nature I guess enjoy your piece of paradise!!!!