Desperately need help to clone this pheno

[DoubleD5374]

I have an outdoor plant that is finished and I want a clone off of it . I’ve never re veg’d a clone this far into flower . Here is a picture of the phenotype .

Do i treat it like any other clone , or any special nutrients or advice ? Really don’t wanna lose this pheno , as it’s absolutely gorgeous .

 

[medidedicated]

Its harder the further in flower but ya just normal clone it will reveg takes a while. Maybe chop down to a base and try revegging the plant itself as a second measure. Ive done it but only a couple wks into flower. Careful for mold in buds as the enviorment for cloning is good for mold too.

 

[DoubleD5374]

Its harder the further in flower but ya just normal clone it will reveg takes a while. Maybe chop down to a base and try revegging the plant itself as a second measure. Ive done it but only a couple wks into flower. Careful for mold in buds as the enviorment for cloning is good for mold too.

Im gonna cut 3-4 lower branches and attempt to clone them . Hit them heavy with the humidifier while keeping air moving in my tent and spray with ipm .
I just don’t want to lose this , as it’s some of the nicest phenos I’ve seen out of 80 mothers . It expressed different in clone for sure

 

[Jjgrow420]

Pick a branch with small fluffy buds. I've had better luck using a cloning machine, and no humidity dome, as the high humidity promotes mold in the buds and well once it's moldy it will prob die.
I've also just stuck them in some dirt and let them root on their own in there and that's worked well. Take multiple cuts, success rates can vary. It can take a long time for it to start re vegging after it's grown roots. Once you get some.new growth popping out you can clip that and clone it, and it'll be normal again. Make sure you treat them with a dunk and then dry them off so you aren't bringing any nasties inside.

 

[Star Dog]

For important stuff I'd dig up the root ball and put it under lights 18/24 hrs light and re veg it
Or air layering it if re veg isn't a option?



Air layering ime is the most reliable method for rooting plants late in flower, basically you're rooting your clone on the plant then cutting it off after it roots.

 

[Farmer's Hat]

The plant looks pretty small. I would dig it up, shake and wash off most of the soil, and put it in a 3gl pot with some fresh potting soil. Harvest the buds, but try to leave most of the plant in tact.
Take it indoors and reverse it. Probably take a month before you see some new growth.

 

[DoubleD5374]

Pick a branch with small fluffy buds. I've had better luck using a cloning machine, and no humidity dome, as the high humidity promotes mold in the buds and well once it's moldy it will prob die.
I've also just stuck them in some dirt and let them root on their own in there and that's worked well. Take multiple cuts, success rates can vary. It can take a long time for it to start re vegging after it's grown roots. Once you get some.new growth popping out you can clip that and clone it, and it'll be normal again. Make sure you treat them with a dunk and then dry them off so you aren't bringing any nasties inside.

I have an ezclone 128 with no dome . I can keep humidity dialed to whatever I need . Right now they’re in a root riot plug with a mix of clonex , and Roots exculerator . I’ll add a tiny bit of bloom bites to it when I change water out in 3 days “this has always sped my rooting up by as much as a week or more .”


I just wanna save these genetics . I figured I’d end up with a few herms , growing outside / as I got the seeds from bag , of another grow that SS’d . I picked 100 out , trusted my cousin to root the clones and it didn’t work out for whatever reason . Now I’m stuck at harvest , trying to get a few to root . Worst case I can buy more seeds / I believe one place still has them in stock , and hunt them again / but kinda a pita when I know what I’m looking for already and have it right in front of me .

 

[DoubleD5374]

For important stuff I'd dig up the root ball and put it under lights 18/24 hrs light and re veg it
Or air layering it if re veg isn't a option?
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Air layering ime is the most reliable method for rooting plants late in flower, basically you're rooting your clone on the plant then cutting it off after it roots.

I’ve never seen this before .
It’s a clone off another plant- I could remove any unhealthy stuff off it - and bring it in “in a 10 gallon pot “ and try to revert.

 

[Star Dog]

I’ve never seen this before .
It’s a clone off another plant- I could remove any unhealthy stuff off it - and bring it in “in a 10 gallon pot “ and try to revert.

That sounds good to me it should work, as mentioned above be careful of bringing pests inside on the plant.

Good luck!!

 

[DoubleD5374]

That sounds good to me it should work, as mentioned above be careful of bringing pests inside on the plant.

Good luck!!

I already know that’s gonna be an issue. This crop wasn’t well managed for that - as it was more to hunt phenos , and then closed loop extraction with solvents .. I’m hoping I can keep the mother alive and pull this off . It’s absolutely a keeper. Fortunstely my brother in law did cross this with a strain he’s been working on Tropicana poison x Romulawi glue .

I’m really excited to hunt that strain next year as the greasy runtz pheno was amazing . I just wanted to not have to do this all over again next year . They’re in 10 gallon fabric pots to boot so they definitely take up a lot of space .

my new controller for my tent and fans will be here Tuesday , so I intend on setting that all up , and filter intake air as well - to keep any pathogens out of my tent , and the reveg plant will get set in the corner by its lonesome “of the lung room” and have a single cheap dual spectrum led laid overtop 24/7 .

here’s another picture up close of that pheno

 

[Star Dog]

I already know that’s gonna be an issue. This crop wasn’t well managed for that - as it was more to hunt phenos , and then closed loop extraction with solvents .. I’m hoping I can keep the mother alive and pull this off . It’s absolutely a keeper. Fortunstely my brother in law did cross this with a strain he’s been working on Tropicana poison x Romulawi glue .

I’m really excited to hunt that strain next year as the greasy runtz pheno was amazing . I just wanted to not have to do this all over again next year . They’re in 10 gallon fabric pots to boot so they definitely take up a lot of space .

my new controller for my tent and fans will be here Tuesday , so I intend on setting that all up , and filter intake air as well - to keep any pathogens out of my tent , and the reveg plant will get set in the corner by its lonesome “of the lung room” and have a single cheap dual spectrum led laid overtop 24/7 .

here’s another picture up close of that pheno


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I hope it works out well for you bud that would be good, it's nice to have great phenos available with gteed results, you've still the option of running seeds if you want.

You can take clones after flowering starts making them extremely easy to care for.

They can take 8/10 wks to re veg from a bud buying you time to dry and test the mum/s before even re potting them.

 

[DoubleD5374]

I hope it works out well for you bud that would be good, it's nice to have great phenos available with gteed results, you've still the option of running seeds if you want.

You can take clones after flowering starts making them extremely easy to care for.
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They can take 8/10 wks to re veg from a bud buying you time to dry and test the mum/s before even re potting them.

I had over 300 clones , but I was moving and didn’t have the space for them - so in the ground they went 3rd week of July .
Shockingly they all managed to get 4 ft + from the greasy runtz , and a few ounces a piece - the gorilla glue clones grew to 8-11 feet tall , with probably a quarter lb each . Anyone who says late July is to late to plant here , while not ideal and won’t maximize yields - it’s better than nothing ‍

 

[DoubleD5374]

I hope it works out well for you bud that would be good, it's nice to have great phenos available with gteed results, you've still the option of running seeds if you want.

You can take clones after flowering starts making them extremely easy to care for.
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They can take 8/10 wks to re veg from a bud buying you time to dry and test the mum/s before even re potting them.

Exotic genetix doesn’t offer the seeds for it anymore , but I did find them online - from cropkingseeds , so I may do that . Buy 20 .. out of 80 mothers , I honestly only saw about 5/6 variations Max , the least common being the one I’m trying to save . Every pheno was amazing , but this one just has that look , smell , bag appeal - and buzz ..

From here on out I’m cloning everything . We just ordered several breeders cuts from pop genetics , and I’m so stoked for a few of these !!
vampire slayah
Cap junky “Capulator cut”
Tricho Jordan 23
Swamp water fumes
Dante’s wrath 48
Forbidden fruit
Platinum lemon cherry gelato
White truffle

should have some fire strains to play with and cross !

 

[xox]

my vote is for digging it up, it looks pretty small how tall is that plant? id just bring it inside put it under some real gentle 18/6 light eventually itll go back to veg cut a couple clones and toss the rest. if its that special id go that route, never had luck cloning flowering plants even with aeroponics

 

[bignugs68]

I hope it works out well for you bud that would be good, it's nice to have great phenos available with gteed results, you've still the option of running seeds if you want.

You can take clones after flowering starts making them extremely easy to care for.
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They can take 8/10 wks to re veg from a bud buying you time to dry and test the mum/s before even re potting them.

I'm baffled something like this doesn't throw nanners

 

[DoubleD5374]

my vote is for digging it up, it looks pretty small how tall is that plant? id just bring it inside put it under some real gentle 18/6 light eventually itll go back to veg cut a couple clones and toss the rest. if its that special id go that route, never had luck cloning flowering plants even with aeroponics

That plant I don’t feel has enough live material to stay alive . The mother on the other hand - might be able to reverse / but it’s gonna be tough with PM and budrot by now . The mother is in a 10 gallon fabric pot with coco . So it’s easy to bring home , but I’m worried about what I’ll be bringing with it . It’s gonna need lots of neem and special care to make it I’m sure . It’s worth a shot though

 

[Star Dog]

I'm baffled something like this doesn't throw nanners

Tbh I'm baffled why would you'd expect nanners?
Nanners don't even grow during veg.
Check out monster cloning/cropping.

 

[bignugs68]

Tbh I'm baffled why would you'd expect nanners?
Nanners don't even grow during veg.
Check out monster cloning/cropping.

Well based on the fact that this one has a developed flower, so I thought it'd be possible within the first few days for it to at least start a nanner, and even if not visible, once growing what's already started I figure would still be grown by the plant.

But I've never cloned fellow growmie so I don't know much about it lol. Was just my logic

 

[MtRainDog]

Well based on the fact that this one has a developed flower, so I thought it'd be possible within the first few days for it to at least start a nanner, and even if not visible, once growing what's already started I figure would still be grown by the plant.

But I've never cloned fellow growmie so I don't know much about it lol. Was just my logic

That's reasonable. We get beat over the head with, "light-leaks and disruptions to the flowering light cycle causes nanners and herms." It makes sense to me. I never thought about it, but no flowering plant I ever re-vegged threw any nanners. Weird, but I've always thought nanners and herms were more a genetic thing anyway.

 

[bignugs68]

That's reasonable. We get beat over the head with, "light-leaks and disruptions to the flowering light cycle causes nanners and herms." It makes sense to me. I never thought about it, but no flowering plant I ever re-vegged threw any nanners. Weird, but I've always thought nanners and herms were more a genetic thing anyway.

I've always thought the light leak thing was more about consistency. If you've always had your tent perfectly sealed, then introduce light unexpectedly - that's the shock. Then ya got Joe's like me: cheap tent in closet, leaks light(can see when lights are on in tent), I leave the closet door cracked so the 4" duct can get fresh air to my tent. Sometimes my bedroom light is on with the tent's bottom flaps cracked for air pressure balancing with exhaust. Never had an issue. Makes sense for why plNts don't hern from outside full moon nights. The light exposure ebb and flows, no shock.