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compassionateExotic

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i feel really bad for Ukraine and everyone near it but also the Allie’s of trump that are enemies waiting for this to happen but also trump like last time to destroy anything biden and democrats did that was good to win . from global warming /sci to woman’s rights to war views/nato and middle class. there’s nothing trump did was good for the people, he may talk like he can fox anything but I see not one proof or action he has or ever will and he only cares about this cause of his own gains. did he hire people last time that helped Americ but also were proven worthy people for the position? Hell no he picks enablers and his power bitches Leechers.

i have no faith in America anymore exp when it was so obvious what should be done and voted for, Even every worthy republicans and people like Bernie sanders called if voted in trump again it would be a major issue if not perm damage to America
 

GenericEnigma

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Well, I'm a bit excited. Trump will end all wars in the world in a day, get rid of all income taxes. Grocery prices will get cut in half, what - tomorrow? What else - balanced budget! No more waste in government. Get rid of several million people (kinda crowded). What could go wrong? Let's get started!!! What do we do first? How do we accomplish it? Anyone know...........?
 

Hollatchaboy

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as they should. not all felons are bad people. You do the crime, you do the time, you go back to normal life. Isn't that how it really ought to be? Some of the most down to earth people I know are felons for things like drugs, boosting etc. Turned there life around but still face consequences everyday.
You can't vote as a felon, so how do you get elected as one?
 

Nugnewbie

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I agree to a point. I never understood the abortion issue. I have a more nuanced understanding now and though noone who voted for him had a desire to harm anyone, there has been, and will be far more harm done. As far as deporting people who are in the country illegally, they broke the law, and should face consequences. By that same logic, ANYONE who breaks the law should also face consequences. I think that is where the frustration lies with some.

I don't hate Trump or anyone who voted for him. I just believe he has been a criminal most of his life, and don't see any indications he will change. And so, though I've heard r's on msm say they want to unite Americans, as rich as this sounds today, I hope there will be more unity, but am not holding my breath.
 

Unga Bunga

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Abortion is a state issue now . The SCOTUS saw to that . Unless they reverse that ruling it's not really part of this equation .

For the record I'm for women's rights and also the rights of what ever people may identify as . There was much more than this that determined this election .
 

Nugnewbie

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I guess we'll see how it all shakes out. (Trump will be reinstating the transgender ban in the military) Elections have consequences as they say. Fewer rights in general seems to be the direction of the shift. Though he hammered his message that the US is a garbage can and the economy is in the shitter, I hope he can just
improve the economy for everyday people, but I'm pretty sure the rich will fare better, but not many others.
 

Rufus T. Firefly

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You can't vote as a felon, so how do you get elected as one?
That's an easy one, though I'm going to get there in a roundabout way. The framers, through the use of the electoral college (see Federalist Paper #68) separated the office from direct election didn't put into the constitution limitations on things like being a criminal.

Of course, there are arguments to be made whether there should be a stop gap by what would have been white "learned" men superimposing their will on the voters. Anyway the EC is now a symbolic process.

That's how being a felon isn't a disqualification. I'm sure somebody could add to that.
 

Rufus T. Firefly

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The guy is a silver spoon draft dodger, serial cheater on his wives, cheated his own charity, cheated people in his real estate school, grabbed women by the pussy (rapist?), convicted felon, tried to coerce Goergia into "finding" votes for him and stealing an election cheating us out of our democracy. Bankrupted casinos even, not sure how one even does that.

That shit aint fake news my friend, you can look it up if you don't believe me.

You had to see through a lot.

On an ongoing basis I like to ask myself questions, a soul searching of sorts to keep my emotions in check, because I value truth and honesty and I like to live my life on that path. I'm not saying you don't also do that I just wonder how we get to such different places if you do.

Let's have a civil conversation so I can understand you.
Still interested in your opinion on the above Minty...open to anyone.
 

Unga Bunga

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I guess we'll see how it all shakes out. (Trump will be reinstating the transgender ban in the military) Elections have consequences as they say. Fewer rights in general seems to be the direction of the shift. Though he hammered his message that the US is a garbage can and the economy is in the shitter, I hope he can just
improve the economy for everyday people, but I'm pretty sure the rich will fare better, but not many others.
The rich have fared better as long as I can remember . Under all administrations .
 

Bad Karma

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So, let’s say president Biden uses Trump’s own language against him?
What if Joe addresses the nation, plays some of Trump’s clips about how he never lost the 2020 election, and never should have left office.
Biden, who was made a god-king by the Supreme Court, could claim he didn’t lose an election last night, Kamala did. So by Trump’s own logic, Biden can remain in office, until he sees fit to leave. I’d love to see this happen and go to court because by dubbing the president a god-king, he has the power to do ANYTHING “legally”. The only way for Trump to win would be by having the powers of the Presidency reduced back to their former glory by the Supreme Court.
Check f*cking mate, Donnie.
 

Unga Bunga

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So, let’s say president Biden uses Trump’s own language against him?
What if Joe addresses the nation, plays some of Trump’s clips about how he never lost the 2020 election, and never should have left office.
Biden, who was made a god-king by the Supreme Court, could claim he didn’t lose an election last night, Kamala did. So by Trump’s own logic, Biden can remain in office, until he sees fit to leave. I’d love to see this happen and go to court because by dubbing the president a god-king, he has the power to do ANYTHING “legally”. The only way for Trump to win would be by having the powers of the Presidency reduced back to their former glory by the Supreme Court.
Check f*cking mate, Donnie.
This is another SCOTUS ruling being twisted into something it's not .
 

Hollatchaboy

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says the grower! You or I could very well be felons

you’re damn right. Trump is going to do more for criminal justice reform than the Democrats ever have. Non violent felons should be able to re enter society

(even though Trumps felony’s were just political warfare and don’t actually matter) case in point - the sweeping win
Yea most felons claim everything except their guilt.
 

Bad Karma

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This is another SCOTUS ruling being twisted into something it's not .
No it’s not.
Biden can easily claim that part of the Presidents “official duties” is to protect the USA and he would be correct.
Trump has multiple felony counts against him, so how can the sworn President, in good conscience hand over the office of President to a convicted criminal?
Seems like a clear cut case that the Supreme Court would have a hell of a time making a ruling on.
Protecting the office of the Presidency and the USA is well within the “official duties” of the President.
Please explain how I’m wrong.
 

Hollatchaboy

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That's an easy one, though I'm going to get there in a roundabout way. The framers, through the use of the electoral college (see Federalist Paper #68) separated the office from direct election didn't put into the constitution limitations on things like being a criminal.

Of course, there are arguments to be made whether there should be a stop gap by what would have been white "learned" men superimposing their will on the voters. Anyway the EC is now a symbolic process.

That's how being a felon isn't a disqualification. I'm sure somebody could add to that.
Yea, I understand that, but who should be punished more, the felon voter, or the felon candidate?

In all fairness, if one is excluded, so the other should be.
 

sunni

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You posted. I replied to your post. Not "demanding" anything.
let me rephase

What you're doing is trying to provoke an argument by pressuring me to speak for an entire group of people. You're clearly seeking a confrontation because tensions are running high, but I'm not interested in engaging. Reflect on what you're doing—me leaving a random post doesn't justify demanding answers from me.

Neither is going back into my post history laugh reacting etc
 

Nugnewbie

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Sorry. How am I to know it was just a "random post" that I shouldn't be replying to?
I felt slighted as I was genuinely replying to your post and you jumped down my throat for doing so. I replied with a question. Did i say you HAD to respond? Im not sure how i could have predicted your reaction when that wasnt my motive. It was YOUR post, speaking about a group of people voicing displeasure with the current administration, and I was replying to it because getting rid of Biden/Harris to me isn't a solution to their situation. If you don't want to engage, fine. I won't reply to any posts from you unless they are directed exclusively to me. Not here to argue with anyone. I'm not seeking confrontation, but hope for discussion.
 
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HydoDan

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No it’s not.
Biden can easily claim that part of the Presidents “official duties” is to protect the USA and he would be correct.
Trump has multiple felony counts against him, so how can the sworn President, in good conscience hand over the office of President to a convicted criminal?
Seems like a clear cut case that the Supreme Court would have a hell of a time making a ruling on.
Protecting the office of the Presidency and the USA is well within the “official duties” of the President.
Please explain how I’m wrong.
Would deploying Seal Team 6 be an official duty of the President?
 
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