General Edible Making Discussion

FKH

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Lecithin best before 1/31/25. Shit what about if you cooked with it? Is the lecithin in the butter expired past that date too? I got like 5 blocks of butter half cup each. Will the lecithin trick work still? Shoot. You think thats why its bubbly up top?
You found out. You'll be fine.
 

Tincandtoke

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Hmm I never seen that. Those bubbles on top. Maybe its just that, bubbles that solidified?
If you used a solvent to extract and reduced it into an oil/butter carrier it can have trace amounts of the solvent that evaporate and bubble up through the emulsion as the oil/butter sets
 
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BrassNwood

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There were no solvents. I think the lecithin went bad or almost is, its been open for like a year.
A short lesson on Lecithin.
Three major forms Liquid, powder and granules. Two sources Soy and Sunflower. Powder is also known as de-oiled and works best in mixes of mostly water with a small amount of oil. Granules much the same as they dissolve best with water present. Liquid is best for high oil / low water emulsifications or a pure oil like we work with.

Of the 2 sources I find the liquid soy based to give more stone gain over the sunflower base given the same volume used. Fearn liquid is non-GMO and has been my choice for over a decade. Order it online. $6.00 a pint.
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High temps or extended heating can denature Lecithin stopping functionality so limit both.

For use as a sleep aid BadKat recommends 4 or more freeze and re-heat cycles on the Hash base. I've made it twice on request and tested both batches. Not for me as it would knock an elephant out for a week. Holy momma what a hammer that stuff is. Didn't wake until 10am and I'm an up at 4am person.
 

medidedicated

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A short lesson on Lecithin.
Three major forms Liquid, powder and granules. Two sources Soy and Sunflower. Powder is also known as de-oiled and works best in mixes of mostly water with a small amount of oil. Granules much the same as they dissolve best with water present. Liquid is best for high oil / low water emulsifications or a pure oil like we work with.

Of the 2 sources I find the liquid soy based to give more stone gain over the sunflower base given the same volume used. Fearn liquid is non-GMO and has been my choice for over a decade. Order it online. $6.00 a pint.
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High temps or extended heating can denature Lecithin stopping functionality so limit both.

For use as a sleep aid BadKat recommends 4 or more freeze and re-heat cycles on the Hash base. I've made it twice on request and tested both batches. Not for me as it would knock an elephant out for a week. Holy momma what a hammer that stuff is. Didn't wake until 10am and I'm an up at 4am person.
What is freeze reheat cycle? Just put the butter im fridge or freezer and reheat it? What temps? I havent heard of this one. Id like to try it. Anything by you and Badkat as yall solved my problem not getting high in edibles period.

Good tip about heating lecithin, I do pre melt and mix coconut and lecithin on lowest setting on stove. Maybe I went overboard too long. I was using fern soy lecithin but my family had a good point when telling them about this.

They say watch out on consuming large amounts of something that estrogenic. Its enough to make you grow man boobs. Not fat boy titties but actual breasts. So I stuck with sunflower.
 

Tincandtoke

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Sorry about the stoner post regarding solvent, should have reread the thread
I have done the freeze and heat cycle
Got 60+ caps of medicine only experienced consumers can use
About 3 years old and several in the jar in deep freeze still potent (don't recommend keeping them this long but they work)

A lot of people do hours of emulsion/infusion of their oil, 6hrs or more
Unsure if they use lecithin
Good tip Brass
I go 30 minutes on my emulsion

One thing I can do is try the freeze/heat cycle on some 1:1 flower (10%thc/15%cbd)
 

BrassNwood

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What is freeze reheat cycle? Just put the butter im fridge or freezer and reheat it? What temps? I havent heard of this one. Id like to try it. Anything by you and Badkat as yall solved my problem not getting high in edibles period.

Good tip about heating lecithin, I do pre melt and mix coconut and lecithin on lowest setting on stove. Maybe I went overboard too long. I was using fern soy lecithin but my family had a good point when telling them about this.

They say watch out on consuming large amounts of something that estrogenic. Its enough to make you grow man boobs. Not fat boy titties but actual breasts. So I stuck with sunflower.
Just freeze until solid then heat to 220 F (104 C) for 10 minutes, Repete as needed.

With the fractional amounts of soy Lecithin in Kats recipe I really don't think we are in danger of growing Moobs. If anybody was gonna grow them it would be me with such high use.
 

medidedicated

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Il try it thanks. I guess that was already suggested but was being hard headed. It felt like a bad idea as normally the amounts of soy in food isnt like what we are doing. If you say so though thats cool I believe you.
 
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FKH

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Il try it thanks. I guess that was already suggested but was being hard headed. It felt like a bad idea as normally the amounts of soy in food isnt like what we are doing. If you say so though thats cool I believe you.
I appreciate you being concerned about your health. There was one, that I could find, incident where a guy grew breasts from ingesting soy milk. He was drinking nearly a gallon of soy milk a day.

That's a lot of soy milk everyday. Flax seeds, nuts, raisins and dried apricots all have phytostrogens. Moderation is the key.

As long as you're not eating a half pound or more of foods with phytoestrogens, you'll be okay. You may be okay even if you do eat that much. Everyone's body is different.
 

BrassNwood

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Il try it thanks. I guess that was already suggested but was being hard headed. It felt like a bad idea as normally the amounts of soy in food isnt like what we are doing. If you say so though thats cool I believe you.
It works out to a tablespoon of soy lecithin spread over 90 days for the dose I take (1 capsule per day). LMAO that isn't much and is in the 1/100ths of a milliliter per day.
 
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