Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

bobbyboy34

bobbyboy34

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robotninja said:
Got a question, how high should the water be spraying under the lid of your veg and cloner? Because my sprayers don't reach the net pots. They reach like 2-3 inches below the bottom of my pots. How can my clones root if the water never hits em?

I got that 390+ pump so it's powerfull enough. However I wasn't able to get those Ez-Clone sprayers, instead I got the crappy red 360 ones from home depot, the ones with little tiny holes that clog easy. Are my sprayers the problem? I built it to specifications otherwise.

Also I just have the pump sitting inside the pvc with no seal, is that my pressure problem? How can I seal the pump to the pvc without using cement/silicon?
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check out my grow journal for a different type of build, i used a trash can....don't make any "garbage weed" jokes.....works on the same principle, link is in my sig
 
robotninja

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havefungodumb said:
THAT would be cool if robots sprayers worked from home depot hehe
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Yea, guess you can't cut corners if you want it done right. Suppose I'll just order some ez-clone sprayers in the mail, those home depot sprayers really suck! And the holes are so small they clog just from the hard water, bleh!

Either way I'll have to get a special grommet from the eco-plus 396 pump to the 1/2" pvc tube, because I looked in the bottom res of my vegger and saw tons of water pumping out from the bottom pvc connection.

Thx again for the help! Hope to be up and running soon.
 
nc1go

nc1go

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Thanks Stinkbud, you have helped alot of people and spent tons of time on this thread and I thank you.
Question? Have you tried the garbage bags yet? I guess that you can't put one in the top of the veg unit?
Drain question for veg unit. Has anyone come up with a better idea to put a drain in were you can get it out of the rubbermaid container after you put it in. Thanks again, James
 
DoobyDoo

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robotninja said:
Either way I'll have to get a special grommet from the eco-plus 396 pump to the 1/2" pvc tube, because I looked in the bottom res of my vegger and saw tons of water pumping out from the bottom pvc connection.
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I came here to say something about that. I put together my cloner tonight and can't see any good way to get the pump attached to the 1/2" PVC other than sliding the pipe about 1/4" into the pump, which isn't effective at all. I'm going to have to figure something out... damn. I wanted it up and running tonight!

Also note: PVC cleaner and cement will melt the plastic on the pump case.
 
Picasso345

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DoobyDoo said:
I came here to say something about that. I put together my cloner tonight and can't see any good way to get the pump attached to the 1/2" PVC other than sliding the pipe about 1/4" into the pump, which isn't effective at all. I'm going to have to figure something out... damn. I wanted it up and running tonight!

Also note: PVC cleaner and cement will melt the plastic on the pump case.
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I haven't built mine yet, but what about using a bead of silicone for that joint? Not as permanent as the cement, but still provides a seal.
 
repvip

repvip

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You need to use plastic tubing between the pump and 1/2" pipe. Here ... a pic is worth a thousand words!

I don't have the exact dimensions. If you are using an ECO series pump it is the smallest adapter. Take that to home improvement store and fit it to the best fitting tubing and then fit that tubing to the 1/2" pvc while you are there to make sure it fits. Easy as pie.

ps - the black tubing fits better than the clear. Yes, I have the clear.
 

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StinkBud

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nc1go said:
Thanks Stinkbud, you have helped alot of people and spent tons of time on this thread and I thank you.
Question? Have you tried the garbage bags yet? I guess that you can't put one in the top of the veg unit?
Drain question for veg unit. Has anyone come up with a better idea to put a drain in were you can get it out of the rubbermaid container after you put it in. Thanks again, James
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I'm using the trash bags now. Only way to go.

There is a 1/2" garden hose adapter in the veg plans. It allows you to pump the water out of the res.
 
StinkBud

StinkBud

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robotninja said:
Got a question, how high should the water be spraying under the lid of your veg and cloner? Because my sprayers don't reach the net pots. They reach like 2-3 inches below the bottom of my pots. How can my clones root if the water never hits em?

I got that 390+ pump so it's powerfull enough. However I wasn't able to get those Ez-Clone sprayers, instead I got the crappy red 360 ones from home depot, the ones with little tiny holes that clog easy. Are my sprayers the problem? I built it to specifications otherwise.

Also I just have the pump sitting inside the pvc with no seal, is that my pressure problem? How can I seal the pump to the pvc without using cement/silicon?
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You can't use those Home Depot sprayers! They don't work for aero. I have tried them without success.

EZ-Clone sprayers are only 90 cents Bro!

There are a couple of different ways to connect the PVC pipe to the Ecoplus 396 pumps.

1) Buy a piece of 1/2" outside diameter hose. It will fit on one of the plastic fittings that come with the pump. Cut a piece about 4" long. Connect the hose to the fitting and the 1/2" PVC pipe will fit over the hose. The longer the hose, the better the seal.

2) One of the plastic fittings has a little nipple with a hole in it. You need to plug that hole or water will come shooting out. Silicone will work, I just stick a wood screw in the hole to plug it up. The 1/2" PVC pipe connects directly to the pump fitting.

That should take care of your problems.
 

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StinkBud

StinkBud

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peaceb2usall said:
Sorry I think we may have mis understood each other

I really just have a small closet / cab style grow which is 5 feet long and 25 inches wide, Can anyone who has built the standard flower system(2 x 4 foot posts and res + framework) tell me if it will fit width wise within 25 inches with enough room for the plants to grow successfully?

Also Stink what is the end cost per pound(not what you sell or distribute it for to your patients)?
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I thought you meant 25 feet:o!

Lets see 2 - 1000W lights, 250MH, FLs, 5 kinds of nutrients, CO2. It looks like a lot of math to me bro...I think I'll go snowboarding instead:hump:
 
StinkBud

StinkBud

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bubblerking said:
lets all smoke to this:bigjoint: thanks stink bud lets see what 12 plants will do under 3 one thousands bulit mine today took me an hour and a couple bong hits:weed:
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That looks nice Bubbler.

I'm excited to see how the netting works. I should work better than the PVC pipe in theory because you can spread the plants out more effectively.
 
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Howdy all.... stink,, its almost time for you to get jealous.. im picking up my 4th 600watter in a couple days. My plants are lookin sooo nice. One thing about my system is the plants in veg are growing too fast. What i mean is they are topping out in two weeks,, instead of 3,,, if i leave them in there for the full 3 weeks there gonna grow out the top of my cabinet. The first 3 flower units are gonna be 2 weeks apart and im gonna have to slow down this last batch in the cloner or they will be huge when a flower unit becomes available... I have to think that its beacuse i have them on 24/7 lights.

anyhow...im havin lots of fun... any ideas?
 
stofmonster

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DoobyDoo said:
I came here to say something about that. I put together my cloner tonight and can't see any good way to get the pump attached to the 1/2" PVC other than sliding the pipe about 1/4" into the pump, which isn't effective at all. I'm going to have to figure something out... damn. I wanted it up and running tonight!

Also note: PVC cleaner and cement will melt the plastic on the pump case.
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This is what I used from home depot 1/2 Mip adapter, basically 1/2 slip to 1/2 threads screws right in
 

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GringoLoco

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StinkBud said:
2) One of the plastic fittings has a little nipple with a hole in it. You need to plug that hole or water will come shooting out. Silicone will work, I just stick a wood screw in the hole to plug it up. The 1/2" PVC pipe connects directly to the pump fitting.

That should take care of your problems.
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I spent too many hours rigging up different ways to machine the plastic fittings that come with the Eco pump to attach to the 1/2 inch PVC until I spent some time snooping the Home Depot PVC isle I found a nifty 1/2" Adapter 8xMPT (Part number# 436-005) - works like a charm! The threading fits the pump perfectly and the other end slips over the PVC.

Sorry stofmonster - hadn't yet seen your post :S
 

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GringoLoco

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Stink, I just wanted to say thank you for this wonderful thread - I have learned so much and have become more experienced because of it :clap:

I wanted to share pics of my design, which I coined The Mantis, due to the green color of the reservoir and the slight grade at which I set the posts.

Here are the first 2, I plan some more modifications for the next 2.





 

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potpimp

potpimp

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I came in today after a few days out of town and my timer had gotten knocked off the settings or something. I'm not sure exactly what happened; I just freaked out when I saw them and went into rescue mode. The knobs on the Art-Dne are very easy to move, detents would have been a great feature. Here's a pic of what I found.
 
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