Fish scale
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Aren't America supposed to have better genetics though? Plus if you pay extra for seeds and it's cali grade you can charge a bit more on the oz and make your money back that way off the seeds
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conor c
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Not really that's the narrative some push to charge a fortune yes they have some fire genetics but most of that stuff is in the UK and Europe already minus some stuff plus most of the latest and greatest is just rehashed gelato crosses or skittles or cookies etc in reality there's fire everywhere if you know where to look just go with those who care about what there doing over anything rather than just the money more so I do find old stuff tends to be better effects wise as well
Fish scale
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To be fair you are right, I have been looking on cookies.co and they are selling cali seeds shipped worldwide for even cheaper than that other site. And this strain is probably better than that other strain too. 12 cali seeds for £150 or 3 for £50 https://seeds.cookies.co/product/hollywood/
conor c
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Again though I'd be cautious of what they push cookies is more a life style brand these days than it is a weed brand they make more on merchandise than on seeds or at least berner does I do find the hybrids of cookies usually a bit better than straight cookies though the animal cookies being a good example of this imo
coreywebster
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Alright chaps.
Question for you.
My cloner has started making stems black.
There's no slime, no soft stem, no smell and roots are continuing white and pristine.
It happened last set of clones and after I potted them up there's been no issues with them.
And it's happening again.
Water temps are about 66f as its in a cool basement.
Everything on Google says rot , but there's no other signs.
The only thing I can think is there's a metal temp probe in the res , I was once shiny but it's dull now. Wondered if that could cause the blackness.
Any thoughts ?
Some of the last batch were in there a month and still didn't have any discolouration of roots.
Some take that long because of strain and because the air temp is about 72f , due to it been in the basement.
Other strains are knobbling up after 7 days.
It's plain tap water , though I did try some base nutrients that aren't my usual Las run, with them been in there so long.
Edit, after the last batch I fully emptied and sterilised the cloner, pump and sprayers and ran it for a few days before starting fresh
It's an xtream cloner
Question for you.
My cloner has started making stems black.
There's no slime, no soft stem, no smell and roots are continuing white and pristine.
It happened last set of clones and after I potted them up there's been no issues with them.
And it's happening again.
Water temps are about 66f as its in a cool basement.
Everything on Google says rot , but there's no other signs.
The only thing I can think is there's a metal temp probe in the res , I was once shiny but it's dull now. Wondered if that could cause the blackness.
Any thoughts ?
Some of the last batch were in there a month and still didn't have any discolouration of roots.
Some take that long because of strain and because the air temp is about 72f , due to it been in the basement.
Other strains are knobbling up after 7 days.
It's plain tap water , though I did try some base nutrients that aren't my usual Las run, with them been in there so long.
Edit, after the last batch I fully emptied and sterilised the cloner, pump and sprayers and ran it for a few days before starting fresh
It's an xtream cloner
Nutty sKunK
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Hmm, are the stems black below the plugs or above?
The temp probe may well be it, once that coatings removed goodness knows what’s beneath
coreywebster
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Liamp1603
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If your temps are on point without having a metre in there to give you a reading clean it all out and take some cuts without the probe in there see if they turn black still ... I've never used a probe and I have the x stream cloner I just keep it in the tent on the floor normally
futurebanjo
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It's not as simple as saying 'Cali' genetics are better than X/Y/Z it really depends on how well hte plants have been selected, cross bred etc.
I had some really nice smoke from my last grow of 'crystal white kush' which is kinda american genetics.. pics of the grow in my sig.
conor c
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Definitely don't get me wrong they have some nice stuff especially the older stuff but there also responsible for the avalanche of gelato cookies zkittles rehashes imo that stuffs for folks who don't like being actually stoned all day so they smoke that shit tis the opposite of the chems and og stuff least you know when you have smoked those
Nutty sKunK
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Do you guys put any nutrients in the water when you run the cloner? Mine yellowed to shit and suspect that may be why as I just used plain (38ppm) tap water
coreywebster
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I never did before I used my cloner and I didn't for the first god knows how long with it, but because some of them take ages( part genetics part environment) I started adding a one part nutrient, at that point anything with any roots started growing but anything without stayed the same.
I'm also finding a lot of yellowing using the cloner compared to other cloning methods.
And I don't think it's standard from what I've seen online , but everyone says just use plain water from what I've read.
Some yellowing has always been normal for me , as the leaf is repurposed as energy for rooting.
But I guess in my case it's happening quicker and more so in the cloner than say in a perlite seed tray or in rapid rooters
Liamp1603
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I don't beleive the Cali bullshit we can get everything that they can get over the pond genetics equipment everything .... listening to a podcast with 3rd gen farms today and he said the Europeans are level terms if not better with the hash than the Americans
mine yellow in the cloner more than if you dip them and put them in a cube .... make a quart strength mix and foliar spray them
futurebanjo
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Yeah totally, thats why I said its not so simple... to use a beer ananogy it's like saying some random american west coast IPA is better then Magic rock high wire from the UK, it might be, it might not, depends on if the brewer is good and what your personal tastes are.EDIT
Or more accuratly it's like saying beer brewed with american hops is better than european hops... it's just not the case, it could be, but a lot of that depends on the skill of the brewer (or breeder in our case) and the overall quality of the ingredients, (genetics)etc.
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Nutty sKunK
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Do you guys put any nutrients in the water when you run the cloner? Mine yellowed to shit and suspect that may be why as I just used plain (38ppm) tap water
conor c
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They know bud but your correct actual hash they have less history with it sure they got it but I don't think it was the main supply like it was here traditionally Europe has always preferred hash wasn't till home growing took off that the gap closed as far as bud is concerned they always were ahead but now id say it's less of a gap for sure plus most Americans would agree the best stuff in the USA doesn't even come from Cali also can't write Canada off I've had some pretty killer stuff from there too
Nutty sKunK
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Righto not just me then with the xstream cloner.
Next time I’ll try adding a 1/4 does of this calmag I have, contains all trace elements and a little N which should hopefully keep them greener
Cheers!