Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

flabbyone

flabbyone

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peaceb2usall said:
I'm really not trying to be a dick about this even though I may sound like one now :(

So far I have three answers:

1. You can vary the size of the parts to suit your grow room environment.

2. You can find the diagrams / tuts on page 75

I honestly do appreciate your guys help but it appears no one in this thread can tell me what the outside measurement is of the frame. I'll just let this go because I must be missing something. I basically figure:

1. I am asking something overly complicated that no one knows on this forum or can answer.

2. I am asking something so simple it just confounds the bright minds in this thread

3. No actually knows its one of the universes mysteries...

I'm going for number 3. Is there really a reason why this question is so difficult that no one can just post the answer (no not the PDF) I'm not trying to piss people off or confuse people I just don't know how I can put this any simpler.

1. Question

2. Answer = ???

;)

I'm guessing that the plants basically need a 1ft x 1ft to grow well no?

If my question is too hard, let's just go real life, for those of you have built the system as per the plans what are YOUR measurements from outside frame to outside frame?
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I havn't laughed so hard in a year. I am sorry, I saw your post awhile ago, but had to go measure the one I built for a buddy to give you the answer. I am sure you probably have it, but using all 1/2" PVC I came up with 17", outside to outside.

Hope that helps. I could see no reason to use the 5/8" tubing when I had a pile of 1/2" already or I would have used the bigger tube for the frame.
Flabs
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DIRTHAWKER

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Thunder and lightning this morning has got me thinking about back up power. I saw a power inverter the other day at a hardware store. It takes DC power from a car battery and turns it into AC power....of course if there was a power outage a generator would be needed to power lights.. but as far as the sprayer pumps (very important) im thinking this will work. Im not sure exactly how it works..does it connect somehow so that it runs normal , but in case a power outage happends it will power up immeaditly?

thoughts?
 
StinkBud

StinkBud

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DIRTHAWKER said:
Thunder and lightning this morning has got me thinking about back up power. I saw a power inverter the other day at a hardware store. It takes DC power from a car battery and turns it into AC power....of course if there was a power outage a generator would be needed to power lights.. but as far as the sprayer pumps (very important) im thinking this will work. Im not sure exactly how it works..does it connect somehow so that it runs normal , but in case a power outage happends it will power up immeaditly?

thoughts?
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Pick up a computer UPS at wally's or Staples. The bigger you get the longer it will run your pumps.

Don't worry about your lights, the pump is what is important.

I have a couple of generators but I've only had one power failure.

I plug in my refrigerator instead of my lights:hump: anyway.
 
andyman

andyman

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flabbyone said:
I googled for "recycle timer" and on the first page I found this one for $49.95 and the CAP ART DNe for $69.95. Also found the red sprayers for 50 cents each after googling for them. Might not hurt to check, can save yourself about $40 on just those two items. It pays to do a google search on the internet. After all, you all have computers if you are reading this. At least right now you do. Google it!
Flabs :clap:
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watch out on those or most all recycle timers not to plug multiple pumps into them using a splitter or power strip. they are not rated for many amps and if you try running more than one pump they will fail prematurely. thats why I made one timer with a contactor beside it. when the timer kicks on it sends power to the contactor and then from there to a outlet. I can plug about 5-6 pumps into this one timer, rather than just one.
 

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DIRTHAWKER

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andyman said:
very nice , what size is your grow area or how long are your fence post runs. thanks:weed:
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thanks andyman,,, its an 8x8x8 room with 3 4ft fence posts.

are you saying that my power strip could fail beacuse of the 3 pumps hooked up to it?

I have a cap dnr timer plugged into the wall socket, and a power strip plugged into the timer and 3 pumps into the strip.
 
westmich

westmich

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DIRTHAWKER said:
Thunder and lightning this morning has got me thinking about back up power. I saw a power inverter the other day at a hardware store. It takes DC power from a car battery and turns it into AC power....of course if there was a power outage a generator would be needed to power lights.. but as far as the sprayer pumps (very important) im thinking this will work. Im not sure exactly how it works..does it connect somehow so that it runs normal , but in case a power outage happends it will power up immeaditly?

thoughts?
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UPS is probably the cheapest/simplest form of back for pumps. I have UPS on my computer/server and it has come in handy.

However, I have considered thinking of rigging something at some point not only for light back up but also to fool the electric company.

  • Plug battery charger (auto) into AC outlet
  • Battery charger charges bank of auto (or marine would be better) batteries
  • Connect power inverter (DC to AC) to bank of batteries
  • Plug lights into power inverter
The amount of back up time would be based on the amount of battery capacity. The lights would draw juice from the batteries through the inverter. When the batteries wind down, the battery charger would kick in. Instead of the power company seeing a continuous, steady draw of say 600W they would see fluctuation of power usage as the charger kicks on and off.

Just thinking out loud - :joint:
 
Picasso345

Picasso345

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westmich said:
The amount of back up time would be based on the amount of battery capacity. The lights would draw juice from the batteries through the inverter. When the batteries wind down, the battery charger would kick in. Instead of the power company seeing a continuous, steady draw of say 600W they would see fluctuation of power usage as the charger kicks on and off.

Just thinking out loud - :joint:
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Unless you have some crazy fancy meter, the power company can't "see" your usage. That is why they have to drag their ass out and look at your meter. All they know is that you used x amount of juice since the last time they looked at your meter.
 
andyman

andyman

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DIRTHAWKER said:
thanks andyman,,, its an 8x8x8 room with 3 4ft fence posts.

are you saying that my power strip could fail beacuse of the 3 pumps hooked up to it?

I have a cap dnr timer plugged into the wall socket, and a power strip plugged into the timer and 3 pumps into the strip.
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depends on how many amps the timers draw at peak start up or something. if your timers rated for 15 amp than 2 or 3 might be fine. I suggest putting a fuse between them with a few less amps than your timer. ( if your timers is a 15 amp use a 12 amp fuse before your power strip) or get a power strip with a reset breaker less than the timer so it protects the timer. hope that helps, dont wana burn them up since there not real cheap. I built mine for about $100-115 and if the timer fails it just pulls out of the socket and replaces with a new one. Same goes for the contactor and im putting a light, on/off sw, and a 15 amp fuse. so this will be the only pump timer I need for a few rows
 
peaceb2usall

peaceb2usall

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Thanks so much to those who took the time to answer my one question. Again I'm sorry if I sounded a bit prickish but I really just wanted someone to tell me the size rather than "go here and do this" :) Thanks guys for not letting me down! I will / would do the same for any of you!

Much Love,

Peace
 
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latinrascal

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Hey Stinkbud or anybody doing Stinks setup, have you ever tried to do a tiered setup with the system you have now, i was thinking that instead of just glueing the legs to the lower tee have on hand pre cut different length lower legs to lower your system as the plants grow i.e 20" set then 16" then 12 and so on. This way you can start off tall bringing the younger plants closer to the lights and then as they grow just lower them. of course you will have to have extensions for the plumbing and drainage also and i was thinking that you might be able to plumb those connections with vinyl hose for the pump side and something like the roll out gutter stuff that people put on the bottom of their downspouts. This might be useful for a cramped area so that you can keep your lights at a fixed height. Of course this is all based on the idea of keeping your plants as close to the lights as you can get them without burning them. One other thing I am trying to overcome is i am limited on height once you add the lights and filters and duct work. My room is just under 4 feet wide and 7 feet long and i am thinking about running 3 single systems. one other question. Can i run 1 res for 3 single systems or do i absolutely need 3 Different containers
 
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latinrascal

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Stinkbud i have another question, of course anyone that may know the answer please post up. What kind of yield do you think i may be able to harvest doing only top colas and trimming off the lower branches and fan leaves? I am limited on space in which i may be able to do 3 single 5 to 6 plant systems to maintain the 3 week harvest window so i was thinking of doing alternating single cola harvest then normal bushy plants harvest then single cola etc alternating as i go. Whats the consensus?
 
flabbyone

flabbyone

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andyman said:
watch out on those or most all recycle timers not to plug multiple pumps into them using a splitter or power strip. they are not rated for many amps and if you try running more than one pump they will fail prematurely. thats why I made one timer with a contactor beside it. when the timer kicks on it sends power to the contactor and then from there to a outlet. I can plug about 5-6 pumps into this one timer, rather than just one.
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You lost me on that one. How much power are your pumps taking? These are the same timers everyone is using on this thread. rated at 15 amps I believe so you can power a shit load of pumps. What am I missing?
Flabs
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DIRTHAWKER

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latinrascal said:
Hey Stinkbud or anybody doing Stinks setup, have you ever tried to do a tiered setup with the system you have now, i was thinking that instead of just glueing the legs to the lower tee have on hand pre cut different length lower legs to lower your system as the plants grow i.e 20" set then 16" then 12 and so on. This way you can start off tall bringing the younger plants closer to the lights and then as they grow just lower them. of course you will have to have extensions for the plumbing and drainage also and i was thinking that you might be able to plumb those connections with vinyl hose for the pump side and something like the roll out gutter stuff that people put on the bottom of their downspouts. This might be useful for a cramped area so that you can keep your lights at a fixed height. Of course this is all based on the idea of keeping your plants as close to the lights as you can get them without burning them. One other thing I am trying to overcome is i am limited on height once you add the lights and filters and duct work. My room is just under 4 feet wide and 7 feet long and i am thinking about running 3 single systems. one other question. Can i run 1 res for 3 single systems or do i absolutely need 3 Different containers
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I actually thought about doing that...(the different length legs) but eventualy i figured that it would be more of a hassle then what its worth.

not sure of the other question.
 
flabbyone

flabbyone

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peaceb2usall said:
Thanks so much to those who took the time to answer my one question. Again I'm sorry if I sounded a bit prickish but I really just wanted someone to tell me the size rather than "go here and do this" :) Thanks guys for not letting me down! I will / would do the same for any of you!

Much Love,

Peace
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I took no offense at your post at all. I laughed so hard. I am in constant pain and usually do not find a lot to laugh at, at least not that hard. No one was answering you question and you did a great job of getting your answer. I even gave you a + rep for it!
Take care,
Flabs :D
 
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