Sick girl need help please

[akinaspeedstars1]

It was vegged for 3 weeks and is 31 days into flowering
Ok so im growing with fluros and some CFLs
T12s 40 watts all 2700k-3000k 6 48 inchers total and 5 23 watt 2700k cfls
Soil is organic Canadian Sphagnum peat moss from quebec, perlite, wetting agent and slow release humic acids. No nuts ever used besides for the humic acid thats in the potting soil, she started doing this a few weeks ago. 1 leave appeared to burn through and the stems started turning purple now a second leaf is doing the same i would like to remedy this some leaves are curling in at the end too. I never over water I wait till its try 2 to 4 inches dry down and use tap water thats been out 24hrs. i bought a 400 watt HPS its on the way. and some fox farm nuts package.
Any ideas on whats going on and what i can do right now?
its in my clost so at night when lights are off i think it gets a little cold in there.

THe leaf on the bottom right of this pic grew into the light so thats not one of the infected

 

[Sure Shot]

Unless you think your closet is below 60 degrees or so, I don't think it's the cold.
Are you giving that girl enough fresh air?

 

[panhead]

Wait,are you saying that the plant has been budding for 31 days ?

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

yup its 31 days into flowering. it showed sex 2 weeks ago and buds are starting to form
it is extremely slow growing

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

Unless you think your closet is below 60 degrees or so, I don't think it's the cold.
Are you giving that girl enough fresh air?

i open the door 3 or 4 times a day. no fan or anything in there

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

Unless you think your closet is below 60 degrees or so, I don't think it's the cold.
Are you giving that girl enough fresh air?

it could the closet is right by a window and its 12 degrees a night here
i was thinking of buying a heater and setting it outside the door at night

 

[Anotheroldephart]

I have a small heater in my room for when the temp dips but DAMN ...that's chillin'.I've got a roof to put on..in that temp..can we say fun?.Anyway...A 400 watt with a thermostat should work fine, I'd try a fan..6in clip on at the ceiling to get that hot air back down, I do and what a difference. Now instead of head sweating and feet brrrin' it's a nice uniform 75-80 from top to bottom, then during dark I have an oil-filled radiator style heater kept at 70.

 

[panhead]

yup its 31 days into flowering. it showed sex 2 weeks ago and buds are starting to form
it is extremely slow growing

At 52 days old total that plant should be damm near 3ft high,plants double in height & sometimes tripple in height durring the first 30 days of budding.


You've got problems & i'd bet money they are soil related,get that plant out of that goofy soil that has humic acids in it,between the acids & the peat moss the soil is most likely toxic to the plant,i'd bet money on it,at 31 days into budding even a 90% sativa should have much larger bud growth than you have not to mention your plant is severely stunted in height.

Get some standard potting soil with zero added nutes or other additives like acids,even peat moss,stay away from anything other than standard potting soil,then mix some plain non nutrient added perlite (30%) in the soil & transplant asap,buying super expensive fox farm soil or nutrients will do nothing for the health of the plant,the same results can be had with off the shelf items.

Until you get the hang of growing stay away from organics,anything organic is slow to react,the reaction also depends on many variables & the reaction can change depending on these variables,organics can take days or weeks to show results,when new growers use organics to correct a problem the results are not fast enough so they give the plant more,or try other things to correct the problem,this makes conditions worse.

Transplant & put an electric space heater in the room,make sure the heater has a digital temp control,set the temp at 79 degrees lights on & 74 degrees lights off,also you must have a small fan blowing gently directly on the plant,the air movement stimulates the plant & promotes growth rate,within 2 weeks you'll notice much faster growth if you do these 3 things.

Dont worry about the shock of a transplant durring bud,the plant looks to be in shock allready from the soil,stay away from soil with anything extra added into it,it creates an unknown variable that can never be brought back under control once something gets out of whack.

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

I just goto like lowes or something and get standard potting soil with nothing in it? I ask for standard soil no nutrients? I know how to transplant so thats covered...Ill do this tomorrow. and that will help it? ill cancel the fox farm if i should i live in a cold climate so theres not much local places to buy plant supplies so i order from HTG i have plenty of perilite

 

[panhead]

I just goto like lowes or something and get standard potting soil with nothing in it? I ask for standard soil no nutrients? I know how to transplant so thats covered...Ill do this tomorrow. and that will help it? ill cancel the fox farm if i should i live in a cold climate so theres not much local places to buy plant supplies so i order from HTG i have plenty of perilite

I live in freeze your ass off michigan,home depot or lowes will have everything you need,generally the salesmen there dont know squat so dont let them give you any brand name soil,they keep the expensive stuff inside where its warm so i'd bet they try & sell you specialty soil,most of which has aded nutes or a special mix.

Just go to home depot or lowes & buy a 40lb bag of the cheapest potting soil they have,then get a bag of perlite,if they dont have any in stock you can get perlite at meijers,home depot & lowes sell a quality all purpose fertilizer caller "Vigoro" brand fertilizer,its a good blend & very weak,not strong like miracle grow.

And yes by all means cancel the fox farms,they have good stuff but nothing better than what you can get in the stores.

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

alright man tomorrow i am going to home depot
buying a bag of plain potting soil, i have perilite so
Vigro stuff
Little electric swivel heater
and little fan for closet
thanks man!

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

so when i transplant i should knock all the dirt off and wash the roots or how would u do it lol

 

[panhead]

so when i transplant i should knock all the dirt off and wash the roots or how would u do it lol

Nope,transplant as you normally would but make sure to put it into a much larger pot & leave the soil loose, not compacted,knocking all the dirt off will damage the roots beyond repair.

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

Nope,transplant as you normally would but make sure to put it into a much larger pot & leave the soil loose, not compacted,knocking all the dirt off will damage the roots beyond repair.

so just like this then
Water your plant just enough to moisten the roots. If the soil is damp it will hold together better for the transplant process. Fill the larger container with potting soil, leaving enough room to set the plant and rootball in.
Place your hand over the top of the cup, keeping the stem between the thumb and fingers. Turn the small container over and ease the cup off the plant. Gently set the plant upright into the new soil, then fill in the rest of the larger container with soil. Give the plant a thorough watering, as this will loosen the roots and allow them to begin spreading and growing. Tidy up your area, and you are done.


thanks again for ur prompt response and help

 

[nicktheburk]

yea plants have immune systems kinda like humans, it could be the mix between it being a bit too cold, and the soil.

 

[Anotheroldephart]

After you transplant them remember to gently but firmly press down evenly around the plant. That will loosen the roots and remove the air spaces around the roots.What happens then is you get really cute dwarf plants.. I know 'cause that's what happened to Me. Yep... cute as a button...only 5 in tall at maturity.

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

this is all i could find container wise hope its not too big lol and so far no dirt yet heading to home depot now to get fan/heater/hopefully dirt

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

FINALLY found some topsoil with nothing in it. bought 3 40lb bags 1 dollar a piece. there frozen solid at the moment though so i gottem sitting thawing lol

 

[panhead]

FINALLY found some topsoil with nothing in it. bought 3 40lb bags 1 dollar a piece. there frozen solid at the moment though so i gottem sitting thawing lol

Topsoil is good for amendment but did you get the potting soil as well ?

 

[akinaspeedstars1]

Topsoil is good for amendment but did you get the potting soil as well ?

absoulty no one had standard potting soil all meragrow shit with nuts in it and shit.i walked around outside of menards and home depot. , can i use what i bought yesterday i have perlite and will mix them.