If this is what GM is going to do, then I hope they ROT

TheBrutalTruth

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aImmc_hK.uGE&refer=news

GM Mexican Plants Expand as Carmaker Seeks Funds for Rescue
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By Thomas Black
Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp., the biggest automaker in the U.S. and Mexico, increased production of $12,625 Chevrolet Aveos south of the border while seeking a bailout to keep domestic plants from closing.
The Detroit-based company and competitors such as Ford Motor Co. shifted more manufacturing to Mexico this year to capitalize on wages less than an eighth of those in the U.S. and factories that make fuel-efficient models. Through November, Mexican plants turned out 5 percent more vehicles than a year earlier, versus an estimated decline of 30 percent in the U.S.
Mexico is so far weathering the collapse of the global auto industry better than its North American neighbors. Even with a projected decrease in production of as much as 20 percent in 2009, the world’s 10th-largest maker of light vehicles will still suffer less than the U.S. or Canada, according to Eduardo Solis, president of the Mexican Automobile Industry Association.
“The type of vehicle that’s produced in Mexico for the cost that it’s produced and the proximity to the U.S. are factors helping us fare better than other countries,” said Emilio Mosso, a deputy director at the Mexican Economy Ministry.
Thanks to investments by most of the major producers, Mexico has developed a high quality, low-cost manufacturing base. Assembly-line technology is now sophisticated enough to let the nation expand into aerospace, with Bombardier Inc., Safran SA and Honeywell International Inc. investing in operations in recent months.
“The number of errors produced in Mexico is relatively lower than in other countries,” Adolfo Albo, an economist in Mexico City with Spain’s Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria SA said in a telephone interview. “Plants are newer and the training processes are more effective.”
Small-Car Production
Output there also favors small and mid-size vehicles, which make up almost three-quarters of those manufactured. Other models produced in Mexico include the Pontiac G3, Ford Fusion, Volkswagen Beetle and Dodge Journey, a new car-based, sport- utility vehicle.
The product mix positions the industry to grab market share in coming years as consumers seek out fuel efficiency, Mosso said. Through November, Mexico had gained a percentage point to 26 percent of U.S. imports this year, even though close to 30,000 fewer cars from there were sold in the states than in the same period of 2007.
That said, Mexico won’t be immune to the global drop-off in vehicle sales. More than 70 percent of its cars end up in the U.S. where sales in November fell to the lowest annual rate in 26 years, according to Autodata Corp.
Export Decline
Exports to the U.S. slipped 2.6 percent to 1.1 million autos and light trucks through November versus the same period last year. That compares with an 11 percent drop for South Korea, a 9.8 percent decline for Germany and a 7.4 percent slide for Japan, the auto industry association said.
The drop was offset by increased shipments to Europe and South America in the first 11 months. Sales of Mexican exports were up 4 percent through November.
“It’s a world automobile industry crisis that we haven’t yet felt because of those export markets, which next year simply won’t be there,” Solis said.
Still, the “pothole” the industry hit won’t last forever, said Gustavo Cespedes, 46, vehicle manufacturing director for GM North America, who is slated to become chief of the company’s San Luis Potosi plant in January. “Here in Mexico, I believe we’re in a favorable position.”
Labor Costs
Lower labor costs are the biggest advantage. At around $3 an hour, the average Mexican wage is less than one-eighth of those in the U.S.’s $25.34 and one-seventh of Canada’s $21.38, according to Sergio Ornelas, the president of industrial park operator Intermex, which provides real estate services to auto and car-parts producers. Ornelas cited information compiled from the Boston Consulting Group, the U.S. Department of Labor and The Economist Intelligence Unit during a recent conference in San Luis Potosi.
Auto companies contribute to a government-run health system and mandated individual retirement accounts for each worker, which keep health and pension-benefit costs low compared with the U.S., Ornelas said.
The push into Mexico by U.S. car companies could be slowed by restrictions put on GM and Chrysler LLC for accepting Troubled Asset Relief Program funds, said George Magliano, senior auto analyst at Global Insight Inc. in an interview at the San Luis Potosi conference.
“This money is going to come with a tremendous amount of strings,” he said. “If they give you $25 billion and you start closing all your U.S. industry, that could be an issue.”
Bankruptcy Impact
If GM and Chrysler are forced to declare bankruptcy, it may speed up the transfer of production to Mexico as carmakers seek to slash expenses, said Nick Criss, executive director of industrial services in the nation for real estate broker Cushman & Wakefield Inc.
“Mexico tends to be the core manufacturer for many companies because it’s a low-cost center,” Criss said.
GM, for instance, has invested $3.6 billion in Mexico in the last three years. Its auto and light truck production there rose 28 percent in November, the national car industry association said on Dec. 9.
The company said total output in North America, including Mexico, fell 32 percent for the same month to 249,000 vehicles. GM declined to break out its Mexican production.
Ford spent $1.2 billion in 2005 to increase output in Hermosillo of its mid-size Fusion sedan. Production in Mexico from January to November rose 1.5 percent, while it fell 26 percent in the U.S. and 9 percent in Canada, it said.
Investment Increases
Chrysler is building a $570 million factory near Saltillo, Coahuila, that will produce 440,000 engines a year, said Manuel Duarte, a Mexico City-based spokesman. It has canceled one of its two work shifts at a light truck plant there, Duarte said.
China FAW Group Corp. has announced plans to build a car factory in Michoacan on the Pacific coast that will begin operation in 2010. Other Asian companies, including Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea’s biggest automaker, and Tata Motors Ltd., the Mumbai-based maker of Jaguar and Land Rover vehicles, are looking to invest for the first time, Mosso said. Toyota Motor Corp. increased capacity last year at a plant in Tijuana to 50,000 Tacoma trucks.
The wave of investment helped Mexico expand its production to more than 2 million cars in 2007 from 1.54 million in 2003. Mexican car output is forecast to rise to 3 million units by 2015, Magliano said.
U.S. in Reverse
Over the same period, the U.S. industry has gone in reverse, dropping 12 percent to 10.54 million vehicles last year from 11.92 million in 2003, according to CSM Worldwide. The seasonally adjusted annual rate through November plummeted to 8.71 million cars and light trucks, CSM Worldwide said in a Dec. 15 statement.
Mexico also has 12 free-trade pacts, including ones with Japan, the European Union, Chile, Colombia and Israel, and preferential tariff access with 44 other countries, Mosso said.
“We have intrinsic advantages in Mexico that nobody can take away,” GM’s Cespedes said.
To contact the reporter on this story: Thomas Black in Monterrey, Mexico, at [email protected].
Last Updated: December 17, 2008 00:01 EST
 

bobharvey

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The bailout is not for me or you. Its for the Big Boys in the Big Boys Club...and unfortunately we are not and will never be in that club.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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They're just doing what our government has allowed them to do. Dontcha just love NAFTA? :lol:
Stupidest Treaty ever shoved down our throats, that and WTO, whatever treaty included us in the UN, CAFTA, GATT and whatever other free trade treaties there are.
 

medicineman

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Hooray. You guys are beginning to see the value of tarriffs and limiting trade. How about parity of dollars traded IE: you buy a billion bucks of stuff from us and we'll buy a billion bucks of crap from you. How about, no US corporation should be allowed to sell any merchandise made outside the US by said corporation, inside the US? There are solutions to our trade balance and the loss of American Jobs, It just takes being smarter than the corporations and forcing our government to act.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Hooray. You guys are beginning to see the value of tarriffs and limiting trade. How about parity of dollars traded IE: you buy a billion bucks of stuff from us and we'll buy a billion bucks of crap from you. How about, no US corporation should be allowed to sell any merchandise made outside the US by said corporation, inside the US? There are solutions to our trade balance and the loss of American Jobs, It just takes being smarter than the corporations and forcing our government to act.
You're forgetting Med that the problem isn't the right or the left, it's the damn politicians.
 

tipsgnob

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senator bob corker wanted to put the blame on the assembly line workers and wanted them to take less pay...but he never mentioned the fact the ceo of gm made 20 times more than the ceo of toyota...which is the most profitable car company in the world...
 

medicineman

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You're forgetting Med that the problem isn't the right or the left, it's the damn politicians.
Look, most politicians lean way to the right in their actions. They are dancing in step to the whims of the corporations. They may talk left to get elected, but once in, they start doing the corporate shuffle. Example: the repukes want to filibuster any bailout for the big three, why you ask? Well because it offers hope to 3+ million blue collar Union workers, and this is a perfect opportunity to bust the unions. Reaganomics 101.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Look, most politicians lean way to the right in their actions. They are dancing in step to the whims of the corporations. They may talk left to get elected, but once in, they start doing the corporate shuffle. Example: the repukes want to filibuster any bailout for the big three, why you ask? Well because it offers hope to 3+ million blue collar Union workers, and this is a perfect opportunity to bust the unions. Reaganomics 101.
The Republicans don't need to lift a finger to destroy the Unions, the UNIONS DESTROYED THEMSELVES.

There is no reason why we should be held responsible for the failures in Detroit, just as there is no reason why we should be held responsible for the failures on Wall St.

Oh well, one can only expect that the Unions will see a massive negative back lash now that they are effectively forcing every net tax payer to pay what effectively amounts to Union Dues.
 

Twistyman

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They're just doing what our government has allowed them to do. Dontcha just love NAFTA? :lol:
Hooray. You guys are beginning to see the value of tarriffs and limiting trade. How about parity of dollars traded IE: you buy a billion bucks of stuff from us and we'll buy a billion bucks of crap from you. How about, no US corporation should be allowed to sell any merchandise made outside the US by said corporation, inside the US? There are solutions to our trade balance and the loss of American Jobs, It just takes being smarter than the corporations and forcing our government to act.
I can accept a certain amount of free trade upon our continent per se, but to see the upping of production in mexico while they're groveling in the US for money is wrong while they continue to cut jobs and production .. let them ask the Mexican gov. Why pay a buck to get 60 cents worth of jobs.. Plus any out of country production should be hit with a none US worker tax, per employee..

The Republicans don't need to lift a finger to destroy the Unions, the UNIONS DESTROYED THEMSELVES.
There is no reason why we should be held responsible for the failures in Detroit, just as there is no reason why we should be held responsible for the failures on Wall St.
Oh well, one can only expect that the Unions will see a massive negative back lash now that they are effectively forcing every net tax payer to pay what effectively amounts to Union Dues.
The GM 30 and out contracts, full indexed pension...etc who else do you know that have those same standards..... Gov....
As an ex teamster rep (GM dealership) who battled over the contract table, I'm fed up of hearing that the auto workers aren't willing to make any meaningful concessions.... When I did the contracts in the early
80's, ( the last serious auto industry crisis) I told the members they have a choice... take a freeze or risk job cuts that may lead to total closure... As with the bank elites..you can't have candy when theres no food...... :joint:
 

Dankdude

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NAFTA Reagan got the ball rolling on it (purposed it)
Clinton enacted it.

I think that both Parties share equal responsibility here.
 

medicineman

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BUSH REGIME TRADE POLICIES STILL UNDERMINING AMERICAN WORKING FAMILIES

Colombia Free Trade Agreement

"In the midst of economic crisis, at a time when Americans are increasingly uncertain about their jobs and futures, the President decided that more outsourcing is the answer," Schauer said. "This treaty encourages American employers to take their operations overseas and pay their workers less. We should be protecting American jobs-- not doing everything we can to get rid of them. By sending this bill to Congress President Bush proved that he is as out of touch as his critics say he is... When our leaders are prioritizing big business and foreign countries over the interests of the middle class, it's clear that we need change.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/04/bush-regime-trade-policies-still.html
 
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