POLL: Will HPS work in the Veg Cycle

Will a 150Watt HPS system grow a plant properly in the Veg Cycle?

  • Yes

    Votes: 74 90.2%

  • No

    Votes: 8 9.8%
  • Total voters
    82
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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greenearth5 said:
GypsyBush... I was looking at those but i dont know what the difference between that and the one i got was.... besides the wattage

http://www.htgsupply.com/growlights.asp?categoryID=1&subcategoryID=155&typeID=84
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The one you posted is a magnectic HPS ballast for 120 volt outlets...

and that is fine....

But the one I use is a digital ballast, and it gives me the option of running both MH & HPS bulbs (not at the same time)... and it is also a multi-voltage ballast... allowing 90 to 240 volts without transformers...

Talk about flexibility...!!!:o

That is what I can see different...

Anyone else?

Oh... and Hydro can be very easy...

It's like baking a cake...

If you can follow directions and have a little patience... you can do it successfully the first time...:shock:

I came from the great outdoors and grew 1.2 Oz. of fine dank in the nightstand at the hotel room I spent the Summer in...

Check...

It can be done... cheap and easy...

I'm an idiot and I pulled this off.... :eyesmoke:






 
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FATBOYFRESH

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GypsyBush said:
The one you posted is a magnectic HPS ballast for 120 volt outlets...

and that is fine....

But the one I use is a digital ballast, and it gives me the option of running both MH & HPS bulbs (not at the same time)... and it is also a multi-voltage ballast... allowing 90 to 240 volts without transformers...

Talk about flexibility...!!!:o

That is what I can see different...

Anyone else?

Oh... and Hydro can be very easy...

It's like baking a cake...

If you can follow directions and have a little patience... you can do it successfully the first time...:shock:

I came from the great outdoors and grew 1.2 Oz. of fine dank in the nightstand at the hotel room I spent the Summer in...

Check...

It can be done... cheap and easy...

I'm an idiot and I pulled this off.... :eyesmoke:






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that looks nice...i wish i could grab one of those
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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greenearth5 said:
ive seen that machine around before.. whats it called and how much does it cost?
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It's called NOT WORTH IT , and it costs too much for what it is...

You can make a much better system for the 200 bucks they are asking for the aerogarden...

I got one because of convenience... I spent the Summer in a wheelchair and the cab driver went to the store and picked it up for me...

If you can walk down walmart, you can make your own DWC system big enough to support mature cannabis plants...

with the rest of the money you can put a 150HPS on it...

DON"T WASTE YOUR MONEY...

But it did teach me a lot and gave me bud...

If you are handy, you can make a rubbermaid tote DWC with a 600 HPS in a cooltube... all in a tent...

I did and I am very happy...

Do right, do it once... and save cash by not upgrading 13.7 times...

Again, this is just my opinion... I AM NEW AT GROWING INDOORS...
 
greenearth5

greenearth5

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im trying to figure out wtf i am going to do with my garden.. i have a 150hps on the way and ive checked into them dwc setups or the ones using them rubbermaid containers.. i like the hydro setup cause it will water and nute for me .. it just seems like a better setup.. plus it cost 50 bucks to buy and mail a bag of dirt to me.. vs a few dollars for water
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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I am doing DWC in plastic totes...

I would recommend trained plants under 150 watts... keep your buds all at the same level...

Maybe 3 plants in 5 gallon buckets... wrapped around in a spiral... LST style...

Just an idea...
 
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THseaman

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I've got this exact system also and I love it. I personally think HPS out performs MH in the Veg cycle. Do some research on the subject. A lot of side by side grows suggest that HPS should actually be used from week 2-3 to finish if fast growth and high yield is your primary objective.
Google it.
GypsyBush said:
I got one of these and a cooltube...I am very happy with it...

My tent is 36"x20"x54"... :o

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=45680

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greenearth5

greenearth5

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GypsyBush said:
I am doing DWC in plastic totes...

I would recommend trained plants under 150 watts... keep your buds all at the same level...

Maybe 3 plants in 5 gallon buckets... wrapped around in a spiral... LST style...

Just an idea...
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I have no idea what that means bro.. can u send me some links so i can get educated.... what do you mean by "Trained plants" and "same level" and wrapped around prob means literally.. several plants wrapped around in a bunch...

got any links.. which syle are you recommending for me?

EDIT: is that 600watter the HPS that hangs down in between the plants that promote sidewaise growth?
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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greenearth5 said:
I have no idea what that means bro.. can u send me some links so i can get educated.... what do you mean by "Trained plants" and "same level" and wrapped around prob means literally.. several plants wrapped around in a bunch...

got any links.. which syle are you recommending for me?

EDIT: is that 600watter the HPS that hangs down in between the plants that promote sidewaise growth?
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Oh but I do have a recommendation...

Get yourself lost in these links for a few days... you'll know what to do...

Let's start with the DO NOT list... lol....:o (Thanks Al B. Fuct!)

How not to grow dope

OK! With that out of the way... get a good bong and check these out...

Get a harvest every 2 weeks

A batch of clones in rockwool

Al B. FAQt

And last but not least the venerable ... GrowFAQ

I know it's a lot of material... one thread has almost TWO THOUSAND posts!!!:shock:

But if you STUDY... it will pay off...

We are all here to help each other... so the more educated we become, the more we can help each other out...

Read on brother...lol...:-P

But to make it short and sweet...

LST is a form of Low Stress Training... ans yes I was being very literal...

Check this...

 
greenearth5

greenearth5

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OregonMeds said:
Have you guys watched the "i grow Chronic" video?


Watch it, watch any/all of these video posted by this person but start with I grow chronic because it shows such a simple and basic hydro grow you will get a whole lot of info from just that video alone. Here is a shitload of video's including the one I'd like you to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CannabisGardener&view=videos
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Dude i have like 20 videos here.. but every video is for a grow room thats 1000 times bigger then mine... mr green, i grow chronic, how to grow, growing guide to cannabis, ready set grow, stoned free - guide to growing, top quality... etc etc :D

But none are for a 2x3x7 closet.. its all for a huge room if not a basement of a huge building...

BTW I have nothing against watching any of these videos one more time.. there good and educational
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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greenearth5 said:
But none are for a 2x3x7 closet.. its all for a huge room if not a basement of a huge building...
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Would this help...??? :joint::bigjoint:



Here is the tent build..

Sorry about the copy and paste, but I am a lazy stoner....:mrgreen:

Cheers...:joint::peace:

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Originally Posted by GypsyBush
Hi...! yes... I'very Hi...!

A while back (10 days or so) I ordered a new light... a 600 Watt HPS w/ a 8" cool tube... ... so I could have one light over the four trays I intend on having..

I wanted to order a Grow Tent as well, but the cash was a little short that day... not wanting to wait this long again for shipping, I decided to go get some supplies and build my own... (with the help of a good friend... Thanks!!!:clap:)

Soooo, I just thought I'd post about how I spent part of my day yesterday...

Went to WM... picked up a "wardrobe"... air pumps & stones... Industrial Strength Velcro... and 4 plastic containers...








Then I went to "L" and got a few more things... 4"in-line duct fan (exhaust) @ 80CFM... some 4" ducting... a 4" ducting wall adapter... and some heavy duty tape...











Then I went to a gardening supply store and picked up some 6 MIL black/white Panda Film, but I had to buy a freaking roll of it... 1000 sq Foot roll... yeah.... ok... and I found these neat little zippers... probably $1 from China, but I paid PREMIUM, let me assure you hehehe, what a rip off... I needed them so I got them... and they were very easy to use... if only they were a better zipper... I hate cheap, flimsy shit that you know won't last... especially when you have to pay a lot for it...

Oh my other beef with the zipper is that you NEED 2 to make a door... all of the pictures showed what I needed... but you can't make an effective door with just one... everything I said before... just doubled the price... rip off....








So I guess a few pictures of the assembly are in order...

This is not a tutorial... I am not a teacher and I don't have patience to explain anything to anyone unless the person is willing to pay genuine attention because they are really interested...

With that said, I would be glad to answer questions here on this thread (please do not PM me ABOUT THIS)... just make sure you are asking a relevant, specific question... Thanks...!

















So Yeah, it is pretty easy, if you have the patience to deal with a very large piece of plastic that needs to be folded neatly several time...

I still need a piece of thin plywood for the bottom, the cardboard looked good for the pictures, but it's not permanent...

I put little velcro tabs, attaching the frame to the panda film...

I had to make an extra section to cover the back of the zipper, as it is not light proof, and to make sure, I ran a strip of velcro lenghtwise, to make sure light cannot go in because of the zipper...

I'll take a better picture of the thermostat, but it is just a regular cooling thermostat... you set the temp and it lets power go to whatever it is you are running...

Kinda like a timer..... but instead of turning on and off with hours and minutes, it is controlled by temperature...

So I can have the fan kick at ... say... 75F...and when it gets below 75F (+- a few) it shuts off....

Passive intakes should do it... but it would be easy to add at any point...

I know I will not get true 80CFM out of this fan, but I have a small tent...
true 80CFM would circulate the entire airmass 3.3 times every minute...

I bet I am still getting full volume transfer every minute... I got 24 cubic feet of space...

Well, it's time for me to go and enjoy some torture at physical therapy...

Be good boys and girls... and remember "Always Drive Rowdy...." lol...

Gypsy....:wink:

When the light gets here, it will have 8" holes on the sides of the tent for unrestricted blow by ventilation... provided by a 265cfm cage fan (not an in-line blower...

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Originally Posted by GypsyBush
Damn... and I still got the joint... :joint::peace:


Ok... so I will start pretty much where I left off... with one overlapped picture to illustrate a change....


I decided to change the exhaust flange because I found one that will block the light a little better than the previous... and I think it looks slightly better...









...and a little fan to ... "..stir it up, little darling stur it up..."lol






Oh! I was wrong about the fan all along... it is a 170 CFM in line blower...








I have always been scared of cheap plastic timers on anything more than household lamp... so... here we have a real timer... that probably won't catch fire, melt or be overloaded...








Of course we gotta know what we are feeding our plants, so here we have a HANNA Pronto TDS/PPM meter.... everything to keep my ladies happy...








The thermostat will kick the exhaust fan ON when the temperature inside raises to what the user sets it to...







This power strip will be used for non-ballast/non-timed/non-heat generating items such as the circulating fan and 9 watt CFL (just in case I need a light and don't need to fire up the BIG GUNS...)

Everything else will be staged outside... airpumps, ballasts, transformers... etc...






And here is the whole strip with the goodies....









... and last but not least....

I really wanted to use some of the "neoprene" medialess "disks"... but there were none to be had in this town...

So, again, I found something that works at a fraction of the cost....

I wanted to get away from absorbent foam once the seedlings grow a bit, to avoid stem rot...

So this closed cell foam is perfect, even if I have to tape or glue it once the thin seam busts...

It's perfect for what I am doing...










Well boys & girls.. it's been fun so far... but I am not finished.... soooo... I will get busy again and check with you guys a little later...

Take care...

Gypsy...:joint::bigjoint:



:joint:... anyone...



:leaf:



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Originally Posted by GypsyBush
So this is what I came up with for the timer...

there is a 5' cord that will plug into the wall...

and a 3-way splitter, to feed the light, cool tube fan and anything else I want to run on the same schedule...






So... how am I doing this far...???

:bigjoint:
 
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THseaman

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Nice post(s) gypsy bush, very insightful. If I knew how to give +rep with this new web layout I would give it to you.
 
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