4x4 grow room clean slate

i agree.. Ppl dont realize this but it's true...

i have an ace true value a block from my house it is american owned and operated they sell a single cfl for 6.99 walmart sells four for 6.98 same brand same wattage same factory . I think in troubled times i should be a stratigic consumer and never over spend . Should i have bought my 32 cfls at walmart or ace????

What is your opinion on this dusty??

Winkdogg
 
My basement is getting pretty cold (northeast usa) should i throw a few lamps in the room to bring up the temps up during the day??? My max temp on warm days is about 76 ?? Any other sugestions ? Heating pad ?? Small ceramic coil heater ? At night it goes down to around 58-60 i know this is ok but my plants neer seem to dry out my humidity stays around 40%..

Also, if light in the "off" cycle screws up plant flowering, why does the moon not effect them , or headlights from passing cars , or the giant hids in parking lots and on buildings ?? In nature there is really no 100% dark and flowers seem to do fine??? I know we are trying to recreate the perfect enviroment for are girls but i think people get a lil carried away with the "100% darkness thing" i still keep my girls in the dark but i dont know why i cant sneek a peek sometimes???/

just a few things to think about


thanks in advance for all your answers
winkdogg
 
Here are a bunch of pics from today. One of the lsts went male prob from the hsting everyone else seems happy and bushy starting to have light penetration probs, might move this light setup to lower half and spread some 150 hps love around the upper chamber ??? I am looking at a few used 400w hps but i think i can spread out the light better with 3-4 150s . I also started molassas watering today after a small trial with one plant. Well check out my last few posts i have some ?'s for the more experianced growers in those...

Thanks winkdogg

LAST PIC IS WHOLE GROW ROOM I MIGHT PUT THESE LIGHTS ON BOTTOM AND HPS TH TOP SECTION????
 

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Some pics from when the girls woke up this morning ! I started a lil pruning just removing the center blade of some of the larger fan leaves letting light get to the bud sites . I know the fans are important but im only taking one blade , i did some trials and it didnt seem to hurt anything???
 

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Things seem to be going fine, that's a neat space you've got there!

How strong are those CFLs? You could keep the plants in the corner, move the reflector and make a temporary wall to make the room tighter and increase side reflection on the lower branches. A low ceiling on the box will also help concentrate the light some, besides keeping the heat in the box.

As it seems, CFLs demand narrow spaces to offset their low light penetration, and the relatively low heat they put out allow for very close placement. You said you'de like to make this a CFL-only grow and go with HPS in the next, try not to give up easily!

Oh, and about your question about 100% dark: I've given this some thought months ago and it seems it won't kill the plants to have some light during flowering nights, but this will make them revert to veg hormonally speaking for a bit. During the next light cycle, they'll understand it's fall again and so time to flower, but you'll have missed about a day of bud development. The thing with nature is it has no commitment with productivity, only with maintaining the species, we humans are the ones to care enough for a couple more grams of herb! :bigjoint:

But I do recall a friend who had a huge plant in her garden, over 8ft tall, and it never flowered in about 18 months, probably because of street, car or house lights. She took it down before moving and never saw any buds.
 
things seem to be going fine, that's a neat space you've got there!

How strong are those cfls? You could keep the plants in the corner, move the reflector and make a temporary wall to make the room tighter and increase side reflection on the lower branches. A low ceiling on the box will also help concentrate the light some, besides keeping the heat in the box.

As it seems, cfls demand narrow spaces to offset their low light penetration, and the relatively low heat they put out allow for very close placement. You said you'de like to make this a cfl-only grow and go with hps in the next, try not to give up easily!

Oh, and about your question about 100% dark: I've given this some thought months ago and it seems it won't kill the plants to have some light during flowering nights, but this will make them revert to veg hormonally speaking for a bit. During the next light cycle, they'll understand it's fall again and so time to flower, but you'll have missed about a day of bud development. The thing with nature is it has no commitment with productivity, only with maintaining the species, we humans are the ones to care enough for a couple more grams of herb! :bigjoint:

But i do recall a friend who had a huge plant in her garden, over 8ft tall, and it never flowered in about 18 months, probably because of street, car or house lights. She took it down before moving and never saw any buds.

i think your right about the ceiling and about the room being "to big sorta" they are all the 100watt equiv. So i think 23-26 wattreal power 1600 lumen each x 16=26000lumens at 384watts 67 lumens per watt pretty low i guess . And i guess sneaking a peek every once in a while isnt so bad during lights out just not alot of light. And your right i am gonna see this through with he cfls! Thanks and sorry for rambeling!

Winkdogg

ps maybe i will split the chamber right down the middleso it is two narrow rooms with more reflections...hmmmm
 
Me and some buddies split a qp for the holidaze and some of the nugs were very seedy some had none. It is great bud but with soo many seeds i dont know what i should save ?? I prob have a few hundred nice large firm dark seeds . What is the best tips for picking the good ones
 

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yah trash the small ones but hold on to the big ones, that way if u ever move or somethin and cant takeclones with you, you've got a sac ofbagseed. i got really lucky and found 3 seeds in a oz of the dankest shit ive ever smoked, and ill be growing those plants hopefully to females when i get back to school. with those seeds u know what kinda bud they will produce, since you've already smoked it! and i suggest getting some mylar reflective paper in ur room, it works great!
 
your right i will hold on to them they are called dg420 "dark green 420" i can send some out if people need a good starter seed THIS IS NO SCHWAG REALLY HIGH MIDS I SUPPOSE. SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GROW SOME OF JERSEYS INDOOR FINEST LET ME KNOW .... MIGHT BE BETTER THAN WASTINGYOUR TIME ON BRICK SEED .
 

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Ok im about a wee into flower i can clearly see bud sites how long untill they look like nugs?? 3-4 weeks??

Winkdogg
hehe
i've got 20 Big budz that r second day on 12/12
and i c you r offerin' some seedz
what is the strain
got pix
because this on the picture ...
well they don't look very good :D
 
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