Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds - Trip Reports

andy07966

andy07966

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These seeds seem to not be very popular and I just wanted to hear a few of your trip reports if you have tried them. I took a low dose and will take higher ones in the future but it would be interesting to hear some other experiences first.

Background Details - Got 10g (about 100 seeds) from www.spiritgarden.co.uk (UK site) and crushed up 5 (skins too), they fit nicely in 2 empty paracetamol caps. Took these about midnight when i got home from work. I had a few cups of coffee earlier because i assumed if they would work i would be in for an all-nighter.

T + 00.00 - 5 seeds crushed and swallowed with orange juice to help the "nausea"

T + 00.20 - Slight nausea so had some weed (supposed to help)

T + 02.00 - Decided nothing was going to happen so I went upstairs to use my laptop

T + 03.30 - Finished on my laptop got up and noticed a real powerful body buzz, felt great, no nausea at all.

T + 06.00 - Still going strong, minor visuals (breathing walls etc..) Felt tired so turned TV off and tried to sleep. Obviously didn't work so had some more weed to help me get sleepy.

T + 07.00 - Weed increased visuals, TV was doing strange things, got some audio hallucinations too. Nothing much though.

T + 09.00 - Finally was wearing off slightly, not sure when i dropped of but i was not long after 9am.


The following day I felt fine, a little trippy still but no negative effects.

Overall it was a very enjoyable experience, and very similar to shrooms. The body buzz was great and intense. I'm sure it would be much better to do it in the day due to the lack of sleep spoiling it a little. I would recommend to anyone who enjoys shrooms but start low (4 or 5) until you determine your tolerance and the potency of your seeds.

Any other experiences would be great to hear about.
 
Doctor Cannabis

Doctor Cannabis

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I'm still waiting for my seeds to come in, but I believe you did one small mistake.

On buffing up on the way to use these seeds I found out that alot of people swallow them crushed or chewed, which is not the right way to do it since this lowers the effects. For maximum potency, you need to chew the seeds 10-15 min constantly, without the shell of course. LSA is absorbed by saliva. If the seeds are ingested, the stomach acid breaks down a large quantity of LSA before it is absorbed.
 
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DaGambler

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i swallowed i believe 6-10 back in the day. i felt very very nauseous. and i had to lay down for the entire trip because of this. my movement was seriously impaired. I was tripping... but it wasn't a lot of fun with the nauasea.

if someone knows how to extract these (just like morning glory i guess?)...

what about 'popping' the seeds to get the shell off and just chewing on the meaty seed flesh?
 
japon26

japon26

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i had taken hbwr 2wice first time was amazing i took 7 let the whole seed soak in water for a few minutes to let them soften up a bit, then i popped them in 1 by 1 n chewed them until they were finely ground up,, just to warn to me they taste nasty, kinda like a hot pepper wierd i kno haha, but after i took the 7 i smoked a few bowls of some green to help my stomach settle,, after 30-40 mins of takin them i dry heaved once or twice and that was the only nausea i got, so within the hour i started to feel a strong body buzz and so i decided to smoke a few more bowls just to enhance the effect lol,, within 2 hours of takin the seeds i was trippin hard n it was amazing, that night i stayed up all night listenin to music and thinkin bout the world,, u get a crazy euphoric feeling when taking these seeds,, i love em,,

the 2nd time i had a good body buzz goin after n hour n a half of taking them,, then i threw up and lost the high lol, i think the problem was that time i didnt have any weed to settle my stomach and we were smasshing on food,, i was told that u were suppose to not eat when on these(ooops) lol
 
mannurse801

mannurse801

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If you do a proper extraction, you will enjoy them that much more!!!!!

Crush them, soak in Naptha (camping fuel), this gets rid of the poisons that cause nausea and vommitting. Throw liquid away (or keep for another extraction). Let mush sit on a plat to evaporate until you cannot smell any feul left.
Get some high proff alcohol (everclear). Soak the much in this for a good couple weeks. Strain out the mush and throw away. Now you have a choice. You can evaporate the alcohol and be left with a crude LSA powder, or just use the alcohol in drinks (I like it this way). Make sure your calculations are good. ie. seeds per ml of alcohol type thing. You need to know how many seeds went into the mush, to be able to calculate the amount of seeds per oz/ml of fluid alcohol volume.
 
Joker52

Joker52

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could i use my barcardi 151? also, have you done this? i really want to order some when i re-up on MHRB. LSA powder sounds good b/c i've wanted to do acid ever since shrooming/
 
Doctor Cannabis

Doctor Cannabis

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mannurse, that's a great recipe for extracting LSA. +rep

As far as I know, there are 3 ways of reducing nausea, except for LSA extraction:

1. Use weed.
2. Chew but don't swallow. Chew the shelled seeds for 10-15 min. It will have an even stronger effect and the nausea will still appear, but be weaker.
3. Make a tea. Boil water, then let it cool under 65C (over this temp, LSA is broken down) and put the shelled seeds in the water. Let it stay for 1-2h for maximum diffusion of LSA. Drink the tea simply or with orange juice. This will eliminate most of the nausea.

I wouldn't be able to tell you which one will work best, I think it's an individual thing. Different body, different reactions.

BTW, for those who don't camp, naphta is synonimous with Rhonsons lighter fluid.
 
Joker52

Joker52

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can u also chew morning glory? i don't know much about it, but is it worth it to extract the powder from MG or HBW? Should i just chew 15 seeds of BHW after smoking a fat bowl? If i can basically order acid and just chew it up, that would be fuckin sweet! BTW, what's the average trippin length?
 
mannurse801

mannurse801

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Joker52 said:
could i use my barcardi 151? also, have you done this? i really want to order some when i re-up on MHRB. LSA powder sounds good b/c i've wanted to do acid ever since shrooming/
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Yeah the 151 would be fine. It would be very hard to get a powder out of that due to the high water content.
If you are dead set on the powder, feel free to use 100% methanol, just ensure that it is evaporated 100%, as I am sure you are aware that it is poisonous to us....
Cheers, and let us know how it turns out.
 
Joker52

Joker52

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extractions seem to go wrong 4 me. I'd rather chew on it. BTW, I've ordered from KT Botanicals and i looked up some prices

kt botanicals HBW 50 for $21
We Sell TRUE Hawaiian grown seeds. Don't settle for Indian grown cheap immitations!


then i decided to check BBB b/c i've heard good things

Bouncing Bear Botanicals HBW 50 for $17
Organic, Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds (Argyreia nervosa) harvested in Hawaii on Oahu and Kauai Islands.

So, can anyone say about the quality of these? BBB is cheaper but is the shipping steep?

I might order 100. Can i get LSD effects?
 
mannurse801

mannurse801

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The effect are more subtle than LSD, but it is a great natural high to be done in nature. I love it while camping or fishing.
 
Doctor Cannabis

Doctor Cannabis

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you can chew morning glory seeds, but it's a bit of a drag to chew 200 seeds when you can get the exact same effects for under 20 seeds of HBW. As for all the other questions, mannurse already answered perfectly.
 
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alithecat

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I have taken these around 15 times.
They can cause horrible nausea BUT ONLY IF YOU DO NOT PREPARE THEM CORRECTLY!!


There are two tried and tested methods that I know of to take them without ANY nausea. Try them out and see which works best for you.

Method 1 - The Orange Juice Method (my prefered method)
1. Scrape off the fluffy stuff and seed husks.
2. Grind the seeds up almost into a powder.
3. Put in pure orange juice in the fridge.
4. Leave it for at least 8 hours. I have left it for days before and it increased in potency.
5. Drink it, but DO NOT DRINK THE MUSH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GLASS!!!

Method 2 - The Hamster Method
1. Scrape the fluffy stuff and husks off.
2. Pop seeds into your mouth and hold them in there with a load of saliva.
3. As the seeds soften chew them, making sure to swallow as little saliva as possible.
4. Hold them and the saliva in your mouth for at least 30 mins after you begin to chew.
5. DONT SWALLOW THE MUSH!! SPIT IT OUT!!!

I like to have a joint after ingestion just to get the ball rolling.

Basically these little bad boys contain LSA, a relative of LSD. The trips are similar to a low dose of LSD/shrooms. Massive clarity of thinking, spontaneous creativity, manic laughter, mystical revalations, visual and auditory hallucinations, a profound sense of happiness and excitability will ensue.

Combine extremely well with weed (preferably sativa) and nitrous oxide, taking both well beyond what they can do normally. Having good psychedelic sounding music on is beneficial.

I have taken HBWR seeds in doses ranging from 6 to 16. About 12 is my prefered dosage.

DO NOT WATCH TV!! You will become entranced by it completely and it will waste the trip!

I would agree with mannurse that these are much better done in a natural environment. Trees will never look the same again :)
 
mannurse801

mannurse801

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Joker52 said:
can u also chew morning glory? i don't know much about it, but is it worth it to extract the powder from MG or HBW? Should i just chew 15 seeds of BHW after smoking a fat bowl? If i can basically order acid and just chew it up, that would be fuckin sweet! BTW, what's the average trippin length?
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I really like people to learn about things. I can't tell you everything in a post. Really research it...
http://www.erowid.org/plants/hbw/hbw.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsa/lsa.shtml
 
Joker52

Joker52

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*Note* I am high so i'll bold the important parts.*


Man you guys are so helpful! OK, i decided to order 50 instead of 200 because i heard that they go bad easy. I'll probably keep them in an airtight stash jar. When i get them, me and my friend are going to a really nice park with a nature trail. We are going to take 7 then 3, if we don't feel it. btw, we are both around 200lbs. I'm going to use the chewing method because we're doing it in the morning, on empty stomachs. Plus, i heard you almost always throw that shit up.

Anyways, i'm going to also try salvia again. get 3g of 10X. I tried it once when i was already stoned, but i didn't use a torch so i had minimal effects. I'm hoping my Bub and torch will do the trick.

So, this sunday i have to quit weed for awhile. I've been buying around a halfe to an 8th everyday for about 4 months. I need to stop so i can work out and build tolerance. So, i'm looking for some stuff to tide me over. It's gonna suck. I've done loads of shrooms from my friend that grows them and sells them 50 for 1/2oz. I did 7g once on an empty stomach...i was in the shower for about 2hrs of the trip. I've also kind of done dmt but i have to do a larger extraction and not mess it up.

I've done other things but, my point is, what other ethobotanicals and things are hallucinogens? Maybe stuff sold by BBB? Thanks guys!
 
Ganjaglutin

Ganjaglutin

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Also, An Interesting, Well, Ironic I Geuss Thing To Know About This Is Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Is Like
Indicas Narcotic And Stoney
Morning Glories Is Like Sativas Cerebral With Strong Visuals, Basically Acid
Your Hybrid Or All Around Buzz Comes From Ololiuhqui, It Gives No Nausea But Is In The Middle Of The Road For Potency
 
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