Hydro help

[pppp1984]

Hi guys i am a beginner and using hydroponic i have just started germinating my seeds and then im goin to plae the in small rockwool cube how long should i keep them growing in the small rockwool cube before putting them in the into the bigger cubes an placing them in the hydro system. Also how much should i water them when in the small cubes and should i use nutes on them or will i wait until there in the system. Thanks guys

 

[blueybong]

I don't know system, but I start my seeds in 1.5" RW and grow them in the same RW for the entire grow.

I'm a newbie, but this is how many of us do it.

 

[pppp1984]

I don't know system, but I start my seeds in 1.5" RW and grow them in the same RW for the entire grow.

I'm a newbie, but this is how many of us do it.

OK and how long did you wait after sprouting until u put them in the hydro system

 

[blueybong]

OK and how long did you wait after sprouting until u put them in the hydro system

I started my seeds in the system. After soaking them overnight, I placed the seeds directly into the RW and then put the RW into the nets, which where in the system.

It took about 4 days for them to sprout. Another 5 days until I saw a root drop down below the net and then another 2 days and they were in the water.

Hope this helps!

 

[pppp1984]

I started my seeds in the system. After soaking them overnight, I placed the seeds directly into the RW and then put the RW into the nets, which where in the system.

It took about 4 days for them to sprout. Another 5 days until I saw a root drop down below the net and then another 2 days and they were in the water.

Hope this helps!

Did you germinate the seeds before placing them in the RW and when you put them in the system did you have the pump on. My system is a top feed so im not sure i should place them in the system because it might drown them when there only seedlings. Is it possible to grow them in the RW without putting them in the system for maybe a week. Also when did you start adding nutes thanks for your help

 

[tokeng13]

Honestly 1984 with a top drip system your assumption is probably correct. Putting the seedlings in the "system" and allowing water or nuted water to always run will definitely drown them. I have seen much luck with beginners and the bubbleponics system. Their is a great thread on bubbleponics and alot of knowledge if you search for the member ROSEMAN. Granted alot of the info is not for a top feed system however all we do is try and mask the perfect nature. DAmn i stoned and rambling. I would germ in a paper towel until seeds crack and you can see their tail, plant in your RW, MAKE SURE TAIL IS DOWN! (can stress that enough) the seed will turn if it NEEDS to however that is a day of growing that will be wasted. After you plant in the RW you will see growth within a few days. after the seedling sprouts pack your net pots and get ready for your babies to GROW! ! !

 

[blueybong]

Did you germinate the seeds before placing them in the RW and when you put them in the system did you have the pump on. My system is a top feed so im not sure i should place them in the system because it might drown them when there only seedlings. Is it possible to grow them in the RW without putting them in the system for maybe a week. Also when did you start adding nutes thanks for your help

I'm more than happy to help another fellow grower!!

I germiated my seeds in the RW and they were in my SH system with the feeding tubes coming under the RW.

I'm a newbie too, but I would say that you'll be fine not putting them in your system until they sprout(keep the RW moist). Once they sprout, I would then put them into your system.

I started adding nutes once I saw 4 leaves. The 1st set of leaves are not the "true" leaves, but once you see four true leaves, you then can start adding nutes. Start off at 1/4 strength and slowly add more(every other day) until you reach full strenght. Many new growers burn their plants because they add too much too soon.

My nutes slowly increased over time and Botanicare had their own feeding schedule, which I followed:

Seedlings with four leaves get X the 1st week.
Then it went to mid-veg X+ for another week.
And then full strength X++ by week three.

Follow your manufactures instructions and you should be fine.

 

[Roseman]

Hi,
you can't really compare a DRIP system to a Bubleponics system. The drip system flows 100% water, and very little oxygen, so that the root base can drown. with Bubbleponics, a underwater pump, pumps water to an irrigation hub, where air is added and mixed with the water, so that the root base and cube get a blend of water and air, thus the name Bubbleponics.
Looks like this:

Bubbleponics™ is the art of delivering highly oxygenated nutrient solution DIRECTLY to the inner root zone. The days of merely misting the outer roots with nutrient spray are over. Gone too are the days of over/under watering, over/under feeding; the Stealth Hydro bubbleponic system automatically maintains the ideal oxygen level of the nutrient solution so as to facilitate a healthy thriving root system, resulting in very rapid growth.


With a Bubblponics system, you CAN start seeds in the cubes succesfully. Blueybong is a grow guru with the Bubblponics system.
With the Bubbleponics system, a special HUB is used, as an IRRIGATION HUB. The water is pumped into that hub, into a hollow empty pocket, and it is mixed with oxygen, and that oxygen enriched water is them pumped to each cube. The cube is saturated with Water and Oxygen. Thus the name BUBBLEPONICS....the water has bubbles in it, you can see them in the tubes.
If you used a water pump, and fed water directly to each cube, for an example, using a DRIP sytem, an outside the tank system, with just flowing water, then the cube would be deprived of oxygen, it would become saturated, and the root would get root rot, possibly mold too, and eventually die.

So, In a DRIP System, you can possibly over-water a cube. And in a plain DWC system, you could saturate the cubes too.

IF you have a Bubbleponics system, you have no worries or concerns about over watering the cubes.

If you have just a DWC system, go to Dwc grow club

 

[techgrower]

Looks like you got a lot of great answers! Heres my.02 for what its worth. I use a dwc system, water in tub, bubble stones in bottom. I germ in paper towel, use pen to open hole in pre-soaked ph'ed rockwool. Taproot down (right tokeng13) put in system NO NUTES, untill roots hit water. In dwc you keep water 1-2" below pots and bubbles mist rw. When roots hit water 1/4 strength, hydro nutes are stronger, less is more. Next res change 1/2 nutes and so on......Plant grows in same rw whole time. 3.5"net pots and 1.5"rw. Hope I added to already great answers.

 

[pppp1984]

Looks like you got a lot of great answers! Heres my.02 for what its worth. I use a dwc system, water in tub, bubble stones in bottom. I germ in paper towel, use pen to open hole in pre-soaked ph'ed rockwool. Taproot down (right tokeng13) put in system NO NUTES, untill roots hit water. In dwc you keep water 1-2" below pots and bubbles mist rw. When roots hit water 1/4 strength, hydro nutes are stronger, less is more. Next res change 1/2 nutes and so on......Plant grows in same rw whole time. 3.5"net pots and 1.5"rw. Hope I added to already great answers.

Thanks for all the advice guys. when you say no nutes till they hit the water do you mean when the roots grow down into the resivour because with my system you grow them all in 1 pot. Its just 1 big 5 gallon that sits into another which is the resevour, then the top one is filled with pellettes and then you place the RW in the pellettes. The pot holds maybe 2 or 3 plants im trying 2. So i think the pot is too deep 2 wait til the roots grow into the water if u know what i mean. Thanks

 

[techgrower]

1984-With dwc its one tub-cut lid for pots 1-6or 8 holes in lid. With net pots in lid fill tub 1-2" below bottom of pots with ph'ed distilled water only. Add air stones to bottom of tub 4 bubbles. Fill net pots with some medium, normally hydroton. Rock wool shouldnt sit on very bottom of cup,a small layer of hydroton, place rock wool in, fill around rockwool with medium-grow. No nutes untill roots grow out of bottom of netcups into water.

 

[techgrower]

Sorry 1984- you have a different set up, thought you asked about dwc.

 

[pppp1984]

Sorry 1984- you have a different set up, thought you asked about dwc.

Ah thanks any way man but no my setups different no net pots you just place the RW into a bigger cube of RW and them in the pebbles, all 1 big pot full of pebbles, that may hold 3-4 plants.