Why America Must Prosecute War Crimes

[GrowRebel]

I've put together some video discussions as to why it is so important to prosecute the bush regime for war crimes ... Listen to what Professor Turley has to say about the world view and why we as Americans can't let this slide ...

Bush and Cheney War Criminals
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Why America Must Prosecute Bush Administration War Crimes - Jonathan Turley
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http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/countdown-special-comment-theyre-guilCountdown Special Comment: They're guilty of this, Mr. President-Elect. They're guilty as sin.

On the eve of his inauguration, Keith Olbermann exhorts President-elect Barack Obama to do the one thing that will tell the world that we are a country of laws, and that will enable us to look forward without fear that we could once again face the trampling of the Constitution and the slide towards totalitarianism we've seen in the last eight years.

Will Obama Investigate CheneyBushCo crimes? Maddow asks
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/18/prosecutions/index.htmlBinding U.S. law requires prosecutions for those who authorize torture

In the eyes of the world we will be no better than those Germans during the Nazi hold on power that turned their backs on the war crimes that took place ... if we don't do something they will do it again ... Olbermann give a good example of what happens when war criminal are allowed to go free ...

 

[BadDog40]

I totally agree but I don't think its going to happen. Thats ok, the universe will take care of it.

 

[misshestermoffitt]

Even though I agree that Bush should be prosecuted, can America really financially afford that right now? I think we need to look to solutions for getting us out of this giant hole we are in first.

With all the foreclosures and cheap real estate here, what's to stop other countries from literally buying us out?

 

[Dankdude]

 

[CrackerJax]

It's usually much easier to prosecute a President who loses a war, not wins one.

Picture this political hypothesis, after months of bed wetting and Senatorial tirades against the previous admin, reputations are dragged through the mud....the papers are gleeful, and a terrorist attack occurs on US soil. Wanna know what the headlines will say after that scenario?


Yes, it's going to be sunshine and smooth sailing now....

If Congress gets bogged down in putting the last admin on trial.....Obama doesn't have a prayer at being a good President. He knows this....the question is ... does Congress really care about Obama?


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[misshestermoffitt]

We just can't afford to blow the money on a trial and the peoples attention needs to be turned toward the real problems rather than watching a dog and pony show.

 

[CrackerJax]

As for "other" nations...... the ones that get us and our values are already on board. Most of those not on board will never be.

One of the reasons Prof. Turley is not running things...... it takes balls of steel to be President who does not submit to poll pressure, but stays the course under withering fire.... does the right thing, even if it is not popular at home or abroad. Sometimes kids don't like to take their medicine.

Lincoln, Truman, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush jr., just to name a few....

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

CJ, you're wasting your breath. GrowRebel doesn't care what rational people think, but only what he thinks in his weird alternate universe where Bush wasn't elected Constitutionally (which he was) or that Congress supported his decision to use force against Iraq (which is effectively a declaration of war.)

While I can agree that the war was not something that we should have been involved in, I can not agree that Bush is a War Criminal...

Though that does make for an interesting question.

Hey GrowRebel, if Bush is a War Criminal, does that mean Clinton was a War Criminal, too?

 

[CrackerJax]

No, Bill was a Woman criminal .. he violated many of their missile defense systems ... Osama who? What's his sister look like?


just having fun


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[misshestermoffitt]

I still think Bush's initial election was sketchy...............

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

I still think Bush's initial election was sketchy...............

:: shrugs :: I think Frenken's election is sketchy as well, but in the case of both, well at least Bush's, I don't know about Frenken's, it's too late to do anything about it.

What is that, oh yes, "Ow, what'd you do that for?", "It's in the past, it doesn't matter", "But it still hurts."

 

[CrackerJax]

ANY election is like an onion when it comes to fraud. If you wish to increase the crying, just keep peeling.

Pick a state any state, pick an election, any election, it can be found. Bush's was so big because so much was at stake. Florida became the focus but it was only because of the timing of the results..... don't think it would have been a fiasco if Illinois was the deciding state in 2000? I've got a bridge with your name on it.



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[GrowRebel]

We just can't afford to blow the money on a trial and the peoples attention needs to be turned toward the real problems rather than watching a dog and pony show.

We can't afford? So if a mass murderer is on the loose yet ... we don't have the funds to prosecute him it will be OK to just let him go ... right? What does this say about a person that is willing to let a war criminal go? Didn't you hear Olbermann said what happens when you do that? The war crimes that were committed IS A REAL PROBLEM ... and anyone that turns their back on that are complicit to war crimes ...

As for "other" nations...... the ones that get us and our values are already on board. Most of those not on board will never be.

One of the reasons Prof. Turley is not running things...... it takes balls of steel to be President who does not submit to poll pressure, but stays the course under withering fire.... does the right thing, even if it is not popular at home or abroad. Sometimes kids don't like to take their medicine.

Lincoln, Truman, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush jr., just to name a few....

Turley was not talking about polls dummy ... he was talking about the laws that were broken no president especially an illegitimate one has the authority to break the law ... what part of that don't you get?

CJ, you're wasting your breath. GrowRebel doesn't care what rational people think, but only what he thinks in his weird alternate universe where Bush wasn't elected Constitutionally (which he was) or that Congress supported his decision to use force against Iraq (which is effectively a declaration of war.)

While I can agree that the war was not something that we should have been involved in, I can not agree that Bush is a War Criminal...

Though that does make for an interesting question.

Hey GrowRebel, if Bush is a War Criminal, does that mean Clinton was a War Criminal, too?

You wouldn't know a rational person if they bit you on your stupid ass ... only someone with a bushwhack mind like yours would think bringing war criminals to justice is irrational ... and anyone who takes the time to investigate the evidence knows bush was never elected by the people ... and he wasn't ... it's not my problem you are too stupid to accept facts.
Your "agreement" of whether or not bush is a war criminal isn't necessary ... he still is whether you agree or not ... that's a fact and Professor Turley clearly points that out in all the videos ... so is he lying ... irrational ... or just not as smart as you?

I still think Bush's initial election was sketchy...............

Sketchy hell it was stolen ... both times ... that's an undeniable fact ...

 

[CrackerJax]

Then Turley should bring his case before the law and be heard.

I hardly think the Dem's are willing to give back congress so quickly.....which is exactly what would happen if they hung out the wash on C-span. It's a moot point, if one at all.


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[misshestermoffitt]

So then Growrebel, save up your pennies and hire a lawyer to prosecute Bush. I don't want to have to pay for it. I'm sure a tax hike to prosecute Bush is what all these unemployed Americans are hoping for right about now, while they're trying to keep their homes and feed their kids.

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

We can't afford? So if a mass murderer is on the loose yet ... we don't have the funds to prosecute him it will be OK to just let him go ... right? What does this say about a person that is willing to let a war criminal go? Didn't you hear Olbermann said what happens when you do that? The war crimes that were committed IS A REAL PROBLEM ... and anyone that turns their back on that are complicit to war crimes ...



Turley was not talking about polls dummy ... he was talking about the laws that were broken no president especially an illegitimate one has the authority to break the law ... what part of that don't you get?



You wouldn't know a rational person if they bit you on your stupid ass ... only someone with a bushwhack mind like yours would think bringing war criminals to justice is irrational ... and anyone who takes the time to investigate the evidence knows bush was never elected by the people ... and he wasn't ... it's not my problem you are too stupid to accept facts.
Your "agreement" of whether or not bush is a war criminal isn't necessary ... he still is whether you agree or not ... that's a fact and Professor Turley clearly points that out in all the videos ... so is he lying ... irrational ... or just not as smart as you?




Sketchy hell it was stolen ... both times ... that's an undeniable fact ...

Well clearly it doesn't matter, because we're both smarter than you. At least when asked a question, we don't go off another tangent all together.

Let me repeat it a few times...

If Bush was a War Criminal, does that mean that Clinton was also a War Criminal?

Or maybe you'll understand it phrased this way.

Since Bush allowed Water-boarding, which was undoubtedly also used during the Clinton Administration, does that not also mean that Clinton was a War Criminal?

Does it also mean that FDR was also a War Criminal for the internment of the Japanese and Germans?

Or what about Eisenhower and Kennedy (Vietnam)?

or Truman (Korea)?

Of course, there is still the issue of whether or not water-boarding is torture.

Or if forcing a prisoner to wear underwear on their head is torture.


I'm not going to go so far as to try stating that forcing the prisoners to listen to Christina Aguilera wasn't torture, even I find that a tad obnoxious.

But speaking of tortures, here's a list of medieval torture devices, which make water boarding look like a Sunday Picnic

(I would advise the faint-hearted from going to this website (or any one that just ate.))
http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/misc/torture/21.html

 

[misshestermoffitt]

As if other countries don't torture our prisoners. Damn, didn't anyone hear of those people being kidnapped and their heads being sawed off? So they tortured a few prisioners to gain information, BFD. I'm more worried about the people who are stuck fighting the war.

 

[GrowRebel]

Then Turley should bring his case before the law and be heard.

I hardly think the Dem's are willing to give back congress so quickly.....which is exactly what would happen if they hung out the wash on C-span. It's a moot point, if one at all.


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It may not be Turley ... but somebody probably is going to file charges against them ... it's only a moot point to a dumbass that support war crimes ...
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So then Growrebel, save up your pennies and hire a lawyer to prosecute Bush. I don't want to have to pay for it. I'm sure a tax hike to prosecute Bush is what all these unemployed Americans are hoping for right about now, while they're trying to keep their homes and feed their kids.

I'd love to see you say that to the people who lost family and love ones ... and those that were tortured during this illegal war ... hey Iraqis ... save up your pennies and hire a lawyer to prosecute the bush crime family ... there are certain americans that have no problem what so ever letting war criminals go ... it's no skin off their noses ...they didn't lose their families ...you Iraqis did ... big deal ... so run along we have more important problems like feeding our kids ... or keep our jobs ... our homes ..never mind that you can't feed your kids or can find employment ... or your house is destroyed because of our illegal occupation ... so what ... we simply don't care ... some of us american don't care about human rights ...or following our laws ... our leaders ... illegitimate or no are above the law ... and some americans have no problem with that what so ever ... now go away american idol is on.

Well clearly it doesn't matter, because we're both smarter than you. At least when asked a question, we don't go off another tangent all together.

Bwaa ha ha ha ... that's funny! Especially coming from you ... someone that demonstrates their stupidity every time they post!

Let me repeat it a few times...

If Bush was a War Criminal, does that mean that Clinton was also a War Criminal?

Or maybe you'll understand it phrased this way.

Since Bush allowed Water-boarding, which was undoubtedly also used during the Clinton Administration, does that not also mean that Clinton was a War Criminal?

I have seen no report of Clinton authorizing water boarding so you will have to produce a link ... which you won't because you can't ... you simply don't have the mental capacity to back your statement with links ... but if Clinton did authorize water boarding ... and since it is against the law and is a war crime that would make him a war criminal ...

Does it also mean that FDR was also a War Criminal for the internment of the Japanese and Germans?

Or what about Eisenhower and Kennedy (Vietnam)?

or Truman (Korea)?

Now in your sick bushwhacked mind you rationalize it's OK to commit war crimes because everyone does it ... that's how fuck in the head you are ...

Of course, there is still the issue of whether or not water-boarding is torture.

Or if forcing a prisoner to wear underwear on their head is torture.

Here again you demonstrate your complete stupidity ... there is no issue of whether or not water boarding is torture ... Turley clearly spells that out in the videos I posted ...water boarding is tourture and a war crime ... but he's only a constitutional law professor ... it's obvious you would know whether or not water board is torture than him ..... NOT
You're fun ... I like showing the folks at home how stupid you are ...

 

[CrackerJax]

They will not be prosecuted as I stated earlier. It would mean that dem's have somehow donned the mantle of a principled party which it is clearly not. No, they will take the politically expedient tactic of moving forward while keeping political bullets in the ammo belt if they get into trouble economically, which they will. That handwriting on the wall is being inked in as we post.


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[fdd2blk]

if it's an "illegal war" then every single soldier needs to be prosecuted for accessory to murder. there is NO draft. these are all volunteers.