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DaGambler

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can't wait to see day 60.

i love things which are well ordered. lines of buckets. well-spaced lighting. even canopy.

makes me wonder if i shouldn't have tried to splurge on more 600's and less (none) 1000's. i tend to read only every other page due to my attention span... so i may have missed it, but, what is the dimension (footprint) of the flower chamber (im sure ur not using the whole 17 by 15 foot space)? and what is the clone/veg setup light and space wise?

the loli-popping does look a bit severe... but on my previous grows i did no-lollipopping and this time i will deffinitely do a bit. i'll prolly go real light on some and a bit heavier on others just to see how it works out.
 
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MrHowardMarks

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The total footprint is 12'x8', with 2 feet between the edges of each hood, like 6 on a dice... I wish I was running 1000s on this pattern!

The veg box is 4'x8', 4 feet tall, with three 2tube 48" fluorescents. And a handful of 32 watt CFLs...

I have a ballasted 125W CFL hood, but it won't fit in this box.


If I had to recommend a light for veg, it'd definately be a t5 type, with both veg and bloom bulbs... The 2 fixture ones aren't worth the price... 4 fixtures are the easiest to deal with, but the 8 fixture ones are cheapest by comparison.






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HOLY SHIT!!!



I spent the night out last night, just checked a few things right as the lights came on...


I just walked into the room and noticed a pretty huge difference, they're considerably more plump, and they'll need to be watered soon... Tomorrow definately...
The next scheduled watering wasn't until Thursday, but they'll definately need to be fed tomorrow...


I'm going to cut back just a little bit on the feeding level, but still pump in a full dose of Sensizym, and Sweetleaf...


Whoooo Hooooo, we're in the home stretch...
 
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SlikWiLL13

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yeah, your smokin me with your 600's and your fancy shcmanzy nutrients.:bigjoint: im at day 35 and you look like you got almost a week on me. and i think im doin good too. just doin it with a 400, house nutes, and some additives.

one of the NLxNYC D beans i made popped today. cant wait to see how they turn out.
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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:roll:


9Mile...




As in.




Nine Mile, Jamaica.








Where they originated, where they were obtained, and where Bob Marley lived and is buried...






Eminem is a douche.
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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I haven't heard anything good about Technaflora, I bought a bottle of their pH down a few weeks ago because it was the cheapest for a liter... It was extremely diluted, and wasn't worth it... It lasted 3 weeks... So, I bought a gallon of GH pH down, which will last a few years... And was only 30 bucks... So, it was cheaper.

Not sure on the Technaflora, but have heard and seen great results with Fox Farm, Botanicare, and most definately Advanced Nutrients.
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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MrHowardMarks said:
I haven't heard anything good about Technaflora, I bought a bottle of their pH down a few weeks ago because it was the cheapest for a liter... It was extremely diluted, and wasn't worth it... It lasted 3 weeks... So, I bought a gallon of GH pH down, which will last a few years... And was only 30 bucks... So, it was cheaper.

Not sure on the Technaflora, but have heard and seen great results with Fox Farm, Botanicare, and most definately Advanced Nutrients.
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Good info on GH vs technaflora. I'm going to buy more supplies this weekend and new pH control is on my list.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Thanks MHM, I'll just go with the fox farm I think then, everybody seems to have good results with it. I am gonna get a silica booster, so I might end up using barricade, I havn't found any others that sounded as good. So I'm gonna get grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom, plus a bit of lime in the soil, I'm gonna get a bottle of cal mag, cus I'm sure its good to have around if needed, and a bottle of barricade, would you recommend running anything else to round this out, or does that sounds like I have the bases pretty well covered?
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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Yeah, get the Open Sesame, Beastie Bloom, and ChaChing...

You don't need that much, the smallest size of each will be enough... The 3 pack is 60 bucks I'm pretty sure.

They're definately worth the extra cash...

Comparable products;

Open Sesame - AN Bud Blood
Beastie Bloom - AN Big Bud
Cha Ching - AN Overdrive


These will definately boost the quickness of flowering (open sesame) heighten the number of nodes (Beastie Bloom) and create more resin (Cha Ching)





----Along the lines of pH control...

It doesn't matter what brand you go with, but AN has the highest concentration by far of all the others...

GH is a good balance not too strong not too weak... And a whole lot cheaper.




AN pH up-down needs to be used carefully, adjust with drops not by pouring... And heed caution using it. If you get some on your skin, rinse it immediately for at least 5 minutes with soap... It takes a while to set in and start burning/itching... Same with the Barricade... If you still feel kind of a slimey residue, keep rinsing...


And for god sakes be careful not to get any in you eyes...
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Lol, I'll be careful. I just ordered the grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom, in another couple weeks I'll try to get the open sesame, cha ching, and beastie, I had to wait to order the barricade to, not enough cash yet. But I ordered the liters of each of the others for the time being, and I ordered the liters of GH ph up and down. I got my grow bags, and my panda film too. So I think I'll be about ready to set up my tent once all this stuff gets here. My seedlings are looking great so far, so I can't wait to get them under my 1000w in another week or two. As always I appreciate the info man. TC
 
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MrHowardMarks

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You'll need at least a gallon of Big Bloom, you use a shit-ton of it... 30mL (2tbls) per gallon, compared to the 10 mL (2 teas) of Tiger bloom...I'm not sure if the Big Bloom is really necessary if you're using Tiger Bloom... Haven't done the comparison tests...
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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I've read that they work really well together, so hopefully. I'm gonna buy a gallon of it in a week or two when I order my barricade, and maybe the other additives too. I figured the quart would get me started ok. So I have a ph test kit, but not the ec/tds, I'm gonna get a meter, but until I can afford it, any recommendations on my feeding once I start. I know to start low, and build up, should I just mix to 1/4 of what it says on the bottle, use that for a week or two, then bump it up. Also what would you say, feed every other watering? Water when they seem dry? Thanks for the help man, I appreciate your feed back, you've got alot more experiance then myself.
 
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sexagenario

Active Member
Hi MHM im running 5 gal residuars using tap water and fox farm nutes waters ph is 7.0 how many drops or ml per gallon should i use using GH ph downer.

THANXS in advanced since u are the master that saved my crop; and made it impressive.:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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What's up sexagenario :mrgreen:

When you say the water's pH is 7.0, how do you know this? Is this with or without nutes? And what nutes are you using at what strength?

Also the ppm of the tap water will be another variable...



Hmmmmm... I could run a test and answer both of your questions... Since I have those products... I guess I could get a close guesstimate.



But I really can't stress enough how important a meter is...


Smokedatkush just got a Hanna Combo upon recommendation... It does both tds/ec and pH... And it's cheap. (Like 60 bucks.)


Without a meter you're just guessing what you giving you plant... With one you'll know exacy how much of what you're feeding, and have it at the perfect pH...


This is why Fox Farm recommends feeding every other feeding, to compensate for what might be a toxic buildup.


If I had to add one product to the entire Fox Farm line, I'd definately add an enzyme (100 bucks). And quite possibly Gravity (25 bucks)... I'm impressed with the results so far...


There's 200 bucks, start saving, dank isn't cheap.
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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Speaking of which...

I'm probably finished buying shit for this grow... So I'm going to add up the receipts, and make up my cost analysis.

I'll seperate reuseable products (ballasts, hoods, buckets) from used goods (nutes, electricity, dirt)

When all is said and done, I seriously doubt the market value of harvested product will be greater than the invested cost... Ballasts, lights and hoods aren't cheap...
 
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Masterofgenetics

New Member
well i used just bigbloom in flower on my first real gro..turned out great.. I didn't know it was just a micro nute... I use the lucas blend nowadays. I will send a link from icmag when I can find it.. The dude is a botanist, he has a 100 page report why his blend is the perfect formula.. Its just tigerbloom and problend and a mag supp.. He also says its better to use it all the way through out the whole gro veg till flush..doesnt mean flush of course Its kinda of a new big thing on icmag and breedbay with great success
MrHowardMarks said:
You'll need at least a gallon of Big Bloom, you use a shit-ton of it... 30mL (2tbls) per gallon, compared to the 10 mL (2 teas) of Tiger bloom...I'm not sure if the Big Bloom is really necessary if you're using Tiger Bloom... Haven't done the comparison tests...
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