Chloramine

hom36rown

hom36rown

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your link doesnt work. Ive never heard anyone say anything about chloramine, but I do know chlorine isnt good for your plants.
 
coll

coll

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chloramine is the same difference as chlroine to your plants, it doesnt occur everywhere, it's just when chlorine bonds with sewage and other impurities in your water, I dont think it's really good for anyone but i guess it's better than just having the sewage in your drinking water supply.
 
diemdepyro

diemdepyro

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coll said:
chloramine is the same difference as chlroine to your plants, it doesnt occur everywhere, it's just when chlorine bonds with sewage and other impurities in your water, I dont think it's really good for anyone but i guess it's better than just having the sewage in your drinking water supply.
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That is an exactly correct answer:):clap::clap::clap:
 
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jwiz

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I think it builds up over time, even a little probably kills some of the good bugs in your soil. They say it doesn't harm plants, but how many of your house plants are you watering every other day. Plus it's part of their propaganda to say it's not bad for you.
 
drdodge29

drdodge29

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jwiz said:
I think it builds up over time, even a little probably kills some of the good bugs in your soil. They say it doesn't harm plants, but how many of your house plants are you watering every other day. Plus it's part of their propaganda to say it's not bad for you.
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Ha! Conspiracy Man! So Ed Rosenthal, who does not work for the government, and is a grower/author, says that chloramine is OK! Did u bother to click on the link I posted up top?????????? How about u read that....... Oh what am I thinking????? Ed Rosenthal is part of this propaganda/conspiracy u speak of???????????? Let me know cause I won't take advice from one of the most famous growers/authors of cannabis!
 
drdodge29

drdodge29

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jwiz said:
I think it builds up over time, even a little probably kills some of the good bugs in your soil. They say it doesn't harm plants, but how many of your house plants are you watering every other day. Plus it's part of their propaganda to say it's not bad for you.
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And u brought up a valid point! and I quote "how many of your house plants are you watering every other day?" UMMMMMMMMMM! My wife waters plants all over the house with tap water and no problems! A dude brought up a good point! If u can drink it ur plants can drink it! And I haven't heard of anyone around my way dying from drinking water!
 
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jwiz

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I'm not saying Ed's wrong, he's an awesome grower. However, he lacks true scientific method, as most growers do due to it being an illegal plant. Not as much good research is done in controlled environments, you see growers trying shit all the time and saying it works great, but the next person tries it and they kill their plants. As far as I know, mj needs a little bit of chlorine, but just like anything, too much is no good. You don't add nutes at every watering do you, then why would you add chloramine everytime?

Chloramine is toxic to animals and doesn't dissipate like chlorine does. It can also convert organic materials into chlorocarbons such as chloroform and carbon tetrachloride. Such compounds have been identified as carcinogens. Although chloramine has a lower tendancy to do so than chlorine.

If someone has the setup, it would be nice to see the side by side effects of chloramine laced water vs. ro water.
 
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jwiz

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Are you smoking your house plants that you water everyday?

It might not kill you, and I don't think medical science is advanced enough to know all the effects that it can cause down the line.

Look at how many drugs have been approved "safe" by the FDA only to find out 5 years later that it might have fixed your 5lbs of excess weight but now you have kidney failure and heart disease.
 
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jwiz

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I should have read your link, Ed didn't do the research, he probably uses ro water on his plants.

Heres the quote: There will be no affect on the plants according to all published reports.

According to all published reports I wouldn't drink bleach, and I would rather not smoke chloramine tainted plants.
 
drdodge29

drdodge29

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jwiz said:
I should have read your link, Ed didn't do the research, he probably uses ro water on his plants.

Heres the quote: There will be no affect on the plants according to all published reports.

According to all published reports I wouldn't drink bleach, and I would rather not smoke chloramine tainted plants.
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Well i'm not buying 15 gallons of water a week. And almost ALL the USA cities have Chloramine. And I see plenty of growers using tap water. All I know is A RO has to have a carbon filter to CLEAN (NOT REMOVE) Chloramine. And those carbon filter RO systems aren't cheap, espacially not to guarantee TOTAL REMOVAL of chlorine and any Chlorine By-Products, such as Chlorimine. Further more, Chloramine is pretty much Chlorine and Ammonia. Now I read on a website selling Carbon Filter RO, claiming that U risk the chance of leaving the ammonia part of the Chloramine behind. So it removes the Chlorine part, which doesn't hurt MJ, but leaves the Ammonia part behind??????????????????????? Ur absolutely right. One thing that benifits one's grow might kill off someone else's crop. But that's not the subject. So far I have found proof thru legit sources that Chloramine isn't bad for plants, vegetables, and nuts. So show me a legit site where it says other wise. Until then its an opinion against tested reports. SORRY!
 
ital farmer

ital farmer

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jwiz said:
It might not kill you, and I don't think medical science is advanced enough to know all the effects that it can cause down the line.

Look at how many drugs have been approved "safe" by the FDA only to find out 5 years later that it might have fixed your 5lbs of excess weight but now you have kidney failure and heart disease.
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I'm still not convinced chloramines are that big of a threat, but this is a valid point. Consider that chloramines are now being used because after twenty years we started to realize chlorine posed moderate health risks.


On a separate thought, what if my nutes specifically say to use with chlorine-free water? Is it OK to use them with chloramine water? Ughh, I've got to get my rain barrel hooked up.
 
drdodge29

drdodge29

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ital farmer said:
I'm still not convinced chloramines are that big of a threat, but this is a valid point. Consider that chloramines are now being used because after twenty years we started to realize chlorine posed moderate health risks.


On a separate thought, what if my nutes specifically say to use with chlorine-free water? Is it OK to use them with chloramine water? Ughh, I've got to get my rain barrel hooked up.
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Dude Ive been using water with chloramine for 2 months now. And I know that there's Chloramine in my water cause I read it on my water suppliers website. So is that not enuff proof? My plants are starting to drink about 3/4 of a gallon of water a day. I use regular tap water, adjust the pH and add to my res. No problem. And when I do a res change, I'll let the water sit for about 4 hours with it slightly covered(with air pumps/stones running in the res) so whatever is evaporated isn't returned to the water. Now I don't know about the nutes saying that. What kind of nutes u use? I use Dutch Master, so I'm not sure on that,(maybe change nute companies?) but as far as it being fine for ur plants, it is! So x out ur rain barrel. just use ur tap water. Even my local Hydroponics Supplier uses tap water. I've posted prior that I made a few phone calls to different Hydroponics Suppliers and they all use city water and say there's no harm in chloramine. And there's a large % of the U.S. & Candian cities using chloramine now. And also Europe!:peace:-Dodge
 
drdodge29

drdodge29

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I just want to make one thing clear. When I started this thread I had just started growing a month prior to the beginning of this thread. I was having problems w/ my babies because of "Brown Algae" and it had affected my plant. But I was over analyzing everything everyone told me about my problem w/ my babies. Chloramine in water was one thing people were' saying might be the problem w/ my babies so I decided to check if there was Chloramine in my water and when I found out there was I started to read about it. Now I've read several articles based on Chloramine , provided by different websites and cities, and they all said it was fine for fruits, vegetables, nuts, and plants. Quite frankly, if it's safe for us to drink the water, and eat fruits and vegetables nourished by that water, then why would it be dangerous to smoke a plant from the same water. Doesn't make sense! It just said it was bad for kidney dialysis patients and fish. Now it's been a month since I started this thread and 2 months since I started this grow, and My babies are sucking up water at this point. So I am posting this for anyone asking questions about chloramine and it's hazard(and of course it's an opinion based on MY experience). I have been using chloramine water for 2 months now and my babies are doin great! So this is an opinion based on my results!
 
ital farmer

ital farmer

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drdodge29 said:
I just want to make one thing clear. When I started this thread I had just started growing a month prior to the beginning of this thread. I was having problems w/ my babies because of "Brown Algae" and it had affected my plant. But I was over analyzing everything everyone told me about my problem w/ my babies. Chloramine in water was one thing people were' saying might be the problem w/ my babies so I decided to check if there was Chloramine in my water and when I found out there was I started to reas about it. Now I read several articles and cities comments on Chloramine, and it said it was fine for fruit, vegetable, nuts, and plants. It just said it was bad for kidney dialysis patients and fish. Now it's been a month since I started this thread and 2 months since I started this grow, and My babies are sucking up water at this point. So I am posting this for anyone asking questions about chloramine and it's hazard(and of course it's an opinion based on MY experience). I have been using chloramine water for 2 months now and my babies are doin great! So this is an opinion based on my results!
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That's good news. I'd still like to set up the rain barrel and water with that for other reasons. Thanks for the feedback from your own experience.
 
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budmeister

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drdodge29 said:
Ha! Conspiracy Man! So Ed Rosenthal, who does not work for the government, and is a grower/author, says that chloramine is OK! Did u bother to click on the link I posted up top?????????? How about u read that....... Oh what am I thinking????? Ed Rosenthal is part of this propaganda/conspiracy u speak of???????????? Let me know cause I won't take advice from one of the most famous growers/authors of cannabis!
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Whomever posted that crap probably copied it from a narc manual.
 
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