Old in the Way-First Grow Journal

[onthedl0008]

Thanks old believe it or not bugs bwahahaha helped me out with the 4 plants per sq.ft. question. I should be right where i need to be.Although mine wont be equally spread out over my grow area and 3 in each pot.
Thanks for ur response man. Like ive already said, if im not learning something here than u are just reassuring my confidence. I do actually plan on taking a couple of my smaller cutting out just cuz i cut them to small and this should help with my space conditions per tub.
If ur not to busy or when u get a chance i guess.One more question lol. Was curious to what ur max ppm is during latter stage of flower for indica strains. Actually i wouldnt even mind if you completely broke it down per each flower stage lol. Ok man well thanks for the help.

 

[Old in the Way]

Thanks old believe it or not bugs bwahahaha helped me out with the 4 plants per sq.ft. question. I should be right where i need to be.Although mine wont be equally spread out over my grow area and 3 in each pot.
Thanks for ur response man. Like ive already said, if im not learning something here than u are just reassuring my confidence. I do actually plan on taking a couple of my smaller cutting out just cuz i cut them to small and this should help with my space conditions per tub.
If ur not to busy or when u get a chance i guess.One more question lol. Was curious to what ur max ppm is during latter stage of flower for indica strains. Actually i wouldnt even mind if you completely broke it down per each flower stage lol. Ok man well thanks for the help.

This is for a 70 gallon res....
Tray 1--Day1-20
400ml ea part A & B DutchMaster Gold Flower
40grams Epsom Salts
32.5 grams Big Bud 0-15-40 (PK Boost)
400ml Cal Mag Plus
400ml 35% h2o2
500 ml Fulvic Acid (don't know if this does anything--supposedly a "chelate" or carrier mineral which aids in uptake)

This ends up between 1400 and 1470 ppm but is heavy on the Ca, Mg, P and K......this is due to the high plant count per gallon......they show signs of Mg, P and K deficiencies pretty quickly if I don't supplement heavily.

You should be able to supplement less and use more of your base formula....but I have found that just comes with reading the needs of the plants according to how they are looking 1400-1540 has been a very safe range for me.......

Tray 2--Day 21-41
Same as above--double Big Bud to 65 grams

PPM increases to 1540 +,-

Tray 3--Day 42-58 (Allowing 5 days for flush)

Same as Tray 1--Back to 1400-1470 PPM

Flush with H2O and Clearex for 24 hrs.....as posted by Stinkbud.....if you check the ppm of the water and clearex before and after flushing for 24 hrs you will see how much it goes up as salts are flushed from medium and root mass.....crazy, when I use a 5 gallon bucket to do this it goes from 140-770 after 2 dunks.

Then flush till trichs are at desired ripeness 2-5 days. I have been using Sweet and water at this stage......but the Sweet is just sugar and sulfur.....jury is still out on that product.

 

[onthedl0008]

This is for a 70 gallon res....
Tray 1--Day1-20
400ml ea part A & B DutchMaster Gold Flower
40grams Epsom Salts
32.5 grams Big Bud 0-15-40 (PK Boost)
400ml Cal Mag Plus
400ml 35% h2o2
500 ml Fulvic Acid (don't know if this does anything--supposedly a "chelate" or carrier mineral which aids in uptake)

This ends up between 1400 and 1470 ppm but is heavy on the Ca, Mg, P and K......this is due to the high plant count per gallon......they show signs of Mg, P and K deficiencies pretty quickly if I don't supplement heavily.

You should be able to supplement less and use more of your base formula....but I have found that just comes with reading the needs of the plants according to how they are looking 1400-1540 has been a very safe range for me.......

Tray 2--Day 21-41
Same as above--double Big Bud to 65 grams

PPM increases to 1540 +,-

Tray 3--Day 42-58 (Allowing 5 days for flush)

Same as Tray 1--Back to 1400-1470 PPM

Flush with H2O and Clearex for 24 hrs.....as posted by Stinkbud.....if you check the ppm of the water and clearex before and after flushing for 24 hrs you will see how much it goes up as salts are flushed from medium and root mass.....crazy, when I use a 5 gallon bucket to do this it goes from 140-770 after 2 dunks.

Then flush till trichs are at desired ripeness 2-5 days. I have been using Sweet and water at this stage......but the Sweet is just sugar and sulfur.....jury is still out on that product.

Wow. Thanks! Especially this "You should be able to supplement less and use more of your base formula....but I have found that just comes with reading the needs of the plants according to how they are looking 1400-1540 has been a very safe range for me.......
Im not even going to lie. Ive got so much I need to learn about nutrients.Those clerks at the dro store have been pushing the Fulvic acid. I think im going to break down and get it to see what happens.
Big bud ive seen that as well.Im going to give this a shot to. Im already using the liquid form of Kool Bloom as my PK booster buts its only 0/10/10.
Theyve got a powder form thats like 0/45/45 so I may look into that to.
But Inevitably Im going to continue what ive been doing which is to stay easy on the nutes as i felt was the right thing and what u kind of Just reassured was right.My Early stage hits about 1400 max and my latter hits about up to 1500 max so i see there are things to play with here as well.
Wow thanks this is another one im going to have to germ and let grow roots!

 

[Ahzweepay]

Great journal Old!
Thanks for sharing the things that are working for you.
Lots of great help on RIU - keep it up!!!

 

[Old in the Way]

Great journal Old!
Thanks for sharing the things that are working for you.
Lots of great help on RIU - keep it up!!!

Thanks....and Happy Holidays to all!

I am back in civilization and in one piece.....hopefully I will have some updates by the weekend.

 

[smokingrubber]

This is for a 70 gallon res....
Tray 1--Day1-20
400ml ea part A & B DutchMaster Gold Flower
40grams Epsom Salts
32.5 grams Big Bud 0-15-40 (PK Boost)
400ml Cal Mag Plus
400ml 35% h2o2
500 ml Fulvic Acid (don't know if this does anything--supposedly a "chelate" or carrier mineral which aids in uptake)

This ends up between 1400 and 1470 ppm but is heavy on the Ca, Mg, P and K......this is due to the high plant count per gallon......they show signs of Mg, P and K deficiencies pretty quickly if I don't supplement heavily.

You should be able to supplement less and use more of your base formula....but I have found that just comes with reading the needs of the plants according to how they are looking 1400-1540 has been a very safe range for me.......

Tray 2--Day 21-41
Same as above--double Big Bud to 65 grams

PPM increases to 1540 +,-

Tray 3--Day 42-58 (Allowing 5 days for flush)

Same as Tray 1--Back to 1400-1470 PPM

Flush with H2O and Clearex for 24 hrs.....as posted by Stinkbud.....if you check the ppm of the water and clearex before and after flushing for 24 hrs you will see how much it goes up as salts are flushed from medium and root mass.....crazy, when I use a 5 gallon bucket to do this it goes from 140-770 after 2 dunks.

Then flush till trichs are at desired ripeness 2-5 days. I have been using Sweet and water at this stage......but the Sweet is just sugar and sulfur.....jury is still out on that product.

Thank you SO much for a clear step-by-step recipe. Could you please post your mother-vegetative recipe? Happy Holidays!

 

[Old in the Way]

Thank you SO much for a clear step-by-step recipe. Could you please post your mother-vegetative recipe? Happy Holidays!

Veg Recipe

70 gallon/265 Liter Res.....

500ml ea Dutch Master Gold Grow A & B
360ml Cal Mag Plus
25 grams Epsom Salts
400 ml 35% H2O2
500 ml Fulvic Acid........

I think thats all......ph maintained between 5.8-6.2

 

[onthedl0008]

Happy new year old.. Hope urs is great. Just giving thanks once again man.
Where does that put ur ppms during veg old?

 

[Styl!st07]

Here is a EZ Clone 120.

I didn't find it usefull for cloning so after my clones root through the rapid rooters...........I hang them in here for 4-7 days to put on some roots and a node or two in height before they go to flower.....They start looking like this.

after 7 plus days......they really get rolling

They then get moved to flower.

Tray 1--Days1-20
1kw HPS

Here is a sneak preview.

I hope these pics are coming up...if not let

me know

Hey Old Happy New!!!

This is crazy, I leave for a week and RIU has got a face lift and u keep popping out more babies. Thank God for Viagra.....

- Stylist

 

[Old in the Way]

Hey Old Happy New!!!

This is crazy, I leave for a week and RIU has got a face lift and u keep popping out more babies. Thank God for Viagra.....

- Stylist

LOL, Happy New Year to you.....the facelift is a nice look........btw, I prefer the pill that claims to work for a few days.....for when "you're ready" lol

 

[onthedl0008]

Hey old if ur still checking up on this.....
Had a question on clones and strain traits...
I took some clones off my pink's last grow and got 2 tubs going thanks to all urz helps.
i dont understand it..Neither one of my flowering tubs bud sites are turning pink yet...Prolly wont but are deffinetely stinking like crazy...Is it normal for clones not to take on characteristics of the parent plants?
Think i read bugs talking about how some of his purp widows never turned purp..
Man i dunno.
I know u have different strains going and prolly seen alot of this..What can i really expect?
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated..

 

[grandpabear3]

ya you old fart we have been more than patient.....now down some ensure (i like the chocolate ones) and get it in gear already.

oh and DL....mine are actually white widow. just some turned out to be purple. once i located the mom that was throwin purple chirns i had control of what color i wanted.


now a lessor man would take this moment to say something naughty or inapropriate...i however will slide right on by the moment in time knowing that i'm better than all you horrible people for thinking those things.

 

[onthedl0008]

Ineresting bugs very interesting.. Not all my bud sites turned pink in the original grow but my moms were both tops from both plants.. Just wierd im not getting pink bud man.
Kinda crazy but glad u were able to pull the mom throwing the pur man.

 

[Old in the Way]

Hey old if ur still checking up on this.....
Had a question on clones and strain traits...
I took some clones off my pink's last grow and got 2 tubs going thanks to all urz helps.
i dont understand it..Neither one of my flowering tubs bud sites are turning pink yet...Prolly wont but are deffinetely stinking like crazy...Is it normal for clones not to take on characteristics of the parent plants?

I don't know, but I would think they would exhibit the same traits as the parent....they are a genetic copy after all......give it some time maybe they will turn as the pistils mature.

ya you old fart we have been more than patient.....now down some ensure (i like the chocolate ones) and get it in gear already.

lol, I have been waiting to see how far back the thread would fall.

Thanks for the bumps. I am going to get on it....really......I have been up to my ass in work since the new year......but the updates will be worth the wait

just finished trimming a kilo of wet weight......gd i'm cross-eyed

 

[grandpabear3]

well it's about damned time........cant wait to see the kilo and all the pics

 

[grandpabear3]

bump......hey old man.....you still a free man? jail sucks but the sex is good. thanks again for the cloning info....workin like a charm. on my 3rd batch as per you/al and all is well. do you ever take your humidomes off? it just isnt covered in the thread. some folks take theirs off after the first week or when they see roots. comments?

 

[lilmafia513]

bump......hey old man.....you still a free man? jail sucks but the sex is good. thanks again for the cloning info....workin like a charm. on my 3rd batch as per you/al and all is well. do you ever take your humidomes off? it just isnt covered in the thread. some folks take theirs off after the first week or when they see roots. comments?

Jail sucks but the sex is good?
I don't know where you go to jail at, but here it's all guys together, no woman, and damn sure no sex. So that means if you are having sex in jail, then.............

 

[grandpabear3]

Jail sucks but the sex is good?
I don't know where you go to jail at, but here it's all guys together, no woman, and damn sure no sex. So that means if you are having sex in jail, then.............

well short of the fat lady at the carnival i dont know of anywhere you can get a beard to tickle your nether-regions the way a big ol' scruffy jail bird can. *sigh* i do miss tyrone

 

[lilmafia513]

well short of the fat lady at the carnival i dont know of anywhere you can get a beard to tickle your nether-regions the way a big ol' scruffy jail bird can. *sigh* i do miss tyrone

You know what they say.....in the penn. it's just us men!!!LOL!!
Just messing with ya' man, had to make a joke about that!!LOL

 

[grandpabear3]

You know what they say.....in the penn. it's just us men!!!LOL!!
Just messing with ya' man, had to make a joke about that!!LOL

well i guess since the old man is away we'll just gay up his thread.......

but i will say this......some of the guys i met in there we should not refer to as men. knowhattamean vern? they're ........fancy

i would never fuck one of those, thats just gay. plus they shave


ok im done.....someones gonna have waaaaay to much fun with this if they read it.