G13 Haze+Superthrive uhh ohhh

KP2

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ocean forest is pH balanced and has enough nutes to keep a plant going for at least a couple of weeks. and there is no way i have nute lockout, all my waterings have been done with adjusted distilled water brought to 6.7

Temps are good, humidity is fine, good airflow, enviromental conditions are good.

Sorry to say, but when I bring one element into the grow and things go haywire its only logical to blame it. Plus, I have heard countless people complain about the ill effects of ST.

Like I said, flushed last night. Looking great this morning.

sorry to say, but i've used superthrive for years, and grown plants much longer.... it's NOT superthrive.

rust spots are calcium deficiency, which is almost always hand in hand with magnesium. take some time and look it up, you'll see that WOW!!! i DO know what the fuck i'm talking about!!! :O
 

KP2

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you know it's really fucked up when you ask for help, then get pissy with those who really are trying to help you. i'm almost upset that i took the time to correct all the fuckers that were saying superthrive is burning your plants. it's not a fucking fertilizer, it's a hormone and vitamin suplement.
 

nickfury510

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i use superthrive religiously at 1/4 tsp per gallon and never had a problem...2 drops per gallon would not burn your plant..let alone overnight....
 

420Blunt's

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no it is the superthrive i promise. you overfed them at too young of age. i have g13 haze... under a 400 w hortilux.... in ocean forest.... you just overfed way to early. you barely give any nutes at 2 weeks old. they dont get the good shit till about a month old. oh and too many hormones and vitamins will kill you. why do you think steroids are illegal?
 

sirbudmaster

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no it is the superthrive i promise. you overfed them at too young of age. i have g13 haze... under a 400 w hortilux.... in ocean forest.... you just overfed way to early. you barely give any nutes at 2 weeks old. they dont get the good shit till about a month old. oh and too many hormones and vitamins will kill you. why do you think steroids are illegal?
your not dying from steroids! :wall: OR vitamins IF YOU DO its cause you overdosed! ST is NOT a nute! its a supplement........2-drops DID NOT over nute the plants


Peace
 

sirbudmaster

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your not dying from steroids! :wall: OR vitamins IF YOU DO its cause you overdosed! ST is NOT a nute! its a supplement........2-drops DID NOT over nute the plants


Peace

I have used worm poop in a bottle and ST after the two leaves from the seeds have fully opened and the next set is coming....NO burning, or problems, and as i stated below I USE A CAPFUL per gallon


peace
 

nickfury510

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no it is the superthrive i promise. you overfed them at too young of age. i have g13 haze... under a 400 w hortilux.... in ocean forest.... you just overfed way to early. you barely give any nutes at 2 weeks old. they dont get the good shit till about a month old. oh and too many hormones and vitamins will kill you. why do you think steroids are illegal?
i foliar feed my clones with 1 drop to half gallon of superthrive the day i put them into there coco pots and into the flood table....i also start them off on there canna veg nutes the same day at 250ppm....no problems here:bigjoint:
 

KP2

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no it is the superthrive i promise. you overfed them at too young of age. i have g13 haze... under a 400 w hortilux.... in ocean forest.... you just overfed way to early. you barely give any nutes at 2 weeks old. they dont get the good shit till about a month old. oh and too many hormones and vitamins will kill you. why do you think steroids are illegal?
superthrive fucked my plant up too.

see?



this plant had up to 2 TEASPOONS per gallon at times. see how dead it is? hanging upside down even....
 

nickfury510

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you foliar feed with ST, say what? why?
to tell you the truth..im not sure:bigjoint:..my buddy that got me into growing does it and told me to do it..said it hepls the plant build up a sort of immune system...ive never had any neg reults from it and dont encounter many problems, so i just stick to the routine....:leaf:
 

thrawn

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kp mate not being a pissy bitch, im just saying its hard to follow someones advice when other people are so quick to counter it with their experience. I mean shit, this thread sums that up pretty well.

so what you and homegrown are saying is that two drops of st/gallon fed to a couple of week old plants would not harm it? okay I get that. but i dont understand how I can have a nute def already.

but dude, if this isn't the case, then school me, please. I do want my plants to survive...
 

KP2

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kp mate not being a pissy bitch, im just saying its hard to follow someones advice when other people are so quick to counter it with their experience. I mean shit, this thread sums that up pretty well.

so what you and homegrown are saying is that two drops of st/gallon fed to a couple of week old plants would not harm it? okay I get that. but i dont understand how I can have a nute def already.

but dude, if this isn't the case, then school me, please. I do want my plants to survive...
i would bet my crop that you're using hydro nutes, if not fox farm (which i loathe), then an or gh three part. hydro nutes buffer down, usually to 6.0 ph. hydro nutes also wash out of soil quickly (which is why hot ocean forest soil works well after running water through once, usually burns if you don't).

cal and mag are the two MOST seen deficiencies in the pot growing world. most nutrient formulas don't include enough in their micros. now, you can up the micro, which usually fixes the problem (ie, from starter to full strength), but if not, cal/mag from botanicare is the no mess quick fix. 5-10 ml per gallon added to your feeding program, and bye bye rust spots.

btw, did i mention calcium and magnesium are bud hardeners? there's no reason not to ever use it; it's beneficial even if you have no deficiencies.

cal and mag, easy to spot, easy to fix. if you have yellow, it's PROBABLY not nitrogen ;)
 

KP2

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Yeah, I would bet my left testicle its not the ST. 2tsp=200 drops, so 2 isnt jack shit.
need an addy? i'd like your left testicle please....


yep, drop a gallon superthrive, 10ml per gallon for the first two weeks of flower. i've accidentally dumped a quarter of the bottle in the res with no issues. i wouldn't suggest trying it, as i was quite freaked out myself, but the plants didn't seem to care. if you read the directions, it has concentrated mixtures and uses as well (ie, for TREES, lol).
 

KP2

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i see where you're coming from, and you are most CERTAINLY right to question info here. that's the one thing i hate about these forums, too many people read an article, then are masters on the subject.

it can be hard to judge who to listen to, and who not to... but that gets easier as you gain experience. for the most part, those who seem like they're out to look good are the youngin's, who know all. the ones who crawl their asses are the real growers ;). lol.

i get upset when i see the discrepancies, and try to correct bad info. however, i can't get to every thread, and therefore, BAM!!! tons of bad info gets circulated to the next generation.

with that said, i think i'll go pee on my plant that's under my bed lit with a picture of the sun :mrgreen:
 

thrawn

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Kp2, thanks man, any info on deficiencies is always good to read up on.

but i dont think im making my self totally clear. and i hate to be the guy beating the dead horse but here it goes again.

my plants are only ten days old. just past the third node. i have not fed them any nutes, and the only thing i have added to clean distilled water is those two drops of superthrive. so my question is, can a seedling get a nutrient deficiency at such a young age? I mean, is its growing cycle at this point really in need of more Mg? Correct me if I am wrong, but such a young plant should be content sucking up all the organic shit that is already in the soil and devoting all that energy into building up a root system. So am I being hardheaded when I say that the rust spots (which looks like Mg def and something that I have battled before) are the result of a different source...?

cheers
 
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