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diggitydank420

diggitydank420

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Anotheroldephart said:
Ok, if it's stealing, then how are services paid for? Ambulances..Fire, roads All the services that we've become accustomed too? Do those providing said services do it for nothing?
When the the first, last time you paid out of pocket for any of them. Have you ever needed an ambulance? If so, did you have to pay for the ride before you were taken to the hospital? Ever had to pay for the roads to be plowed, or repaired? Had to be suspicious of everybody you didn't know because you might be wearing shoes, and the other guy wasn't, but had an AK, and wanted yours?
Granted, there are a lot of bull with the taxes we pay, but could any of us afford to pay OUR share of these services? We should have greater say in how out taxes are spent, but to not pay IF you can, but to use the services anyway, well, to my mind THAT is stealing.
By the way.. I was disabled in the Marines, defending this country, by your way of thinking I shouldn't get the piddlin' ass bit of coin I get, when I had to give up ALL my plans for the future because I felt honored and duty bound to serve my country? Another thing, all workers who have paid into the system are owed unemployment, as they've been paying in for as long as they've worked. It's those friggin' leg spreadin' "i gotta baby gimme money" that's the problem, or those junkies who claim that they are disabled, NOT those of us who have paid the ultimate price that has caused us to not be able to work, por those who've paid in, and temporarily are out of work. I have no respect for anybody who suck at the public tit without having ever contributed a thing. So please, think before you tar all those recieving assistance, not all want to be..
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I have no problem with you receiving your due, you earned it.

There are things that have to be funded. But welfare? No thank you.

All I ask is to do a little research on where your INCOME tax goes.


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Gill Sans MT, GillSans]Current Military
$965 billion:[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Gill Sans MT, GillSans]
• Military Personnel $129 billion
• Operation & Maint. $241 billion
• Procurement $143 billion
• Research & Dev. $79 billion
• Construction $15 billion
• Family Housing $3 billion
• DoD misc. $4 billion
• Retired Pay $70 billion
• DoE nuclear weapons $17 billion
• NASA (50%) $9 billion
• International Security $9 billion
• Homeland Secur. (military) $35 billion
• State Dept. (partial) $6 billion
• other military (non-DoD) $5 billion
• “Global War on Terror” $200 billion [We added $162 billion to the last item to supplement the Budget’s grossly underestimated $38 billion in “allowances” to be spent in 2009 for the “War on Terror,” which includes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan] [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Gill Sans MT, GillSans]Past Military,
$484 billion:
• Veterans’ Benefits $94 billion
• Interest on national debt (80%) created by military spending, $390 billion :wall:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Gill Sans MT, GillSans]Human Resources
$789 billion:
• Health/Human Services
• Soc. Sec. Administration:wall:
• Education Dept.
• Food/Nutrition programs
• Housing & Urban Dev.
• Labor Dept.
• other human resources.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Gill Sans MT, GillSans]General Government
$304 billion:
• Interest on debt (20%) :wall:
• Treasury
• Government personnel
• Justice Dept.
• State Dept.
• Homeland Security (15%):wall:
• International Affairs
• NASA (50%)
• Judicial
• Legislative
• other general govt.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Gill Sans MT, GillSans]Physical Resources
$117 billion:
• Agriculture
• Interior
• Transportation
• Homeland Security (15%)
• HUD
• Commerce
• Energy (non-military)
• Environmental Protection
• Nat. Science Fdtn.
• Army Corps Engineers
� Fed. Comm. Commission
• other physical resources[/FONT]
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diggitydank420

diggitydank420

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And please don't make me explain how we well never get out from under our national debt as long as we have a central bank that we borrow money from.
 
Anotheroldephart

Anotheroldephart

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Long term welfare does suck..but how about this...last week, the congress critters gave themselves a $91k raise in their "petty cash" box.. I want one of those...
 
diggitydank420

diggitydank420

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Anotheroldephart said:
Long term welfare does suck..but how about this...last week, the congress critters gave themselves a $91k raise in their "petty cash" box.. I want one of those...
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No shit, my man.

Can you imagine being able to vote yourself a raise? Who here would have the ethical nads to vote no on that?

I know of one man that did...
 
DudeLebowski

DudeLebowski

New Member
diggitydank420 said:
No, most of them are private scum sucking govt automatons. And they cost money that I don't have.

Lebowski, again, I have a job. My hours have been cut because business is slumping.:wall:

I thought you unsubscribed anyhow.

Anyway, let's just forget our piss and vinegar chats and move on, what say ya?
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I say start by lookin for a new place of employment..i know you said this was hard - but surely there is some vocational trainer that can help you out?
 
HoLE

HoLE

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life is what you make of it,,if yur down,,get the fuck up,,,don't wait on anyone to change yur life for you,,get out there and clear a path
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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This is so disheartening. So many people on here are ripping welfare, but you refuse to understand something - IT'S NECESSARY! I said it once already. If you're all about 'hard-earned' money, then clearly you're a capitalist. The RULES of capitalism state that there MUST be unemployment. There has to be!!!! It's impossible for capitalism to work without 3-6% UNEMPLOYMENT. If our system dictates that 6% of the population MUST be unemployed, then we must also take care of them by giving them the minimum. And trust me, that's all they get - the MINIMUM. Why don't you read before you criticize. I fucking hate it when people complain about something when they DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND IT!!!!

What say you now?
 
diggitydank420

diggitydank420

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jrh72582 said:
This is so disheartening. So many people on here are ripping welfare, but you refuse to understand something - IT'S NECESSARY! I said it once already. If you're all about 'hard-earned' money, then clearly you're a capitalist. The RULES of capitalism state that there MUST be unemployment. There has to be!!!! It's impossible for capitalism to work without 3-6% UNEMPLOYMENT. If our system dictates that 6% of the population MUST be unemployed, then we must also take care of them by giving them the minimum. And trust me, that's all they get - the MINIMUM. Why don't you read before you criticize. I fucking hate it when people complain about something when they DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND IT!!!!

What say you now?
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A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
 
The Son of Man

The Son of Man

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welfare is a crutch that becomes an addiction that holds people down for generations. Welfare isn't necessary---disability and retirement is necessary---perfectly healthy people getting welfare are nothing but leaches on society.
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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The Son of Man said:
welfare is a crutch that becomes an addiction that holds people down for generations. Welfare isn't necessary---disability and retirement is necessary---perfectly healthy people getting welfare are nothing but leaches on society.
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HA! So the tenets of capitalism are false? Have you created a new system of economics? I better alert the nobel board - this guy reinvented the wheel!!!!

It's funny you mention leaches. So the kids born to no-good parents are leaches? They shouldn't get food on the table because their mommy screwed up? Yeah, fuck kids - they're worthless anyway!!! Right? That's what you're saying.

And it holds people down for generations, huh? So a kid born to poverty and raised on welfare CANNOT escape from the poverty? Really, you arrogant little know-it-all... I guess the kids I teach everyday from low-income, low-opportunity areas can never achieve anything then. The caste system is stuck - HA! What a fool - you must be from Texas as well then, huh?
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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diggitydank420 said:
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
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What level of education did you say you attained? Because you'll never learn another thing in your whole pathetic life, my friend. It's sad to see such closed minded people. I'd prefer to help a 'good-for-nothing' welfare mother than you any day...you're a cancer to society.
 
The Son of Man

The Son of Man

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jrh72582 said:
HA! So the tenets of capitalism are false? Have you created a new system of economics? I better alert the nobel board - this guy reinvented the wheel!!!!

It's funny you mention leaches. So the kids born to no-good parents are leaches? They shouldn't get food on the table because their mommy screwed up? Yeah, fuck kids - they're worthless anyway!!! Right? That's what you're saying.

And it holds people down for generations, huh? So a kid born to poverty and raised on welfare CANNOT escape from the poverty? Really, you arrogant little know-it-all... I guess the kids I teach everyday from low-income, low-opportunity areas can never achieve anything then. The caste system is stuck - HA! What a fool - you must be from Texas as well then, huh?
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Smart guy that doesn't know shit :lol: Your forgetting the prison population---don't know the exact number---look it up---there's your percentage add to that the illegal population. You just got schooled :wall:

And don't preach about exceptions to rules as facts---welfare is without a doubt a crutch---read a book.
 
texascollegestudent

texascollegestudent

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No politician would agree that welfare is an unnecessary crutch. Because we live in a predominantly capitalistic society, we experience regular cycles of unemployment and inflation. This is common sense for anyone who's taken economics, and makes welfare a necessity.
Wait, maybe Huckabee would agree with you. But even republicans know that he's a moron.
 
The Son of Man

The Son of Man

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I have a degree in economics and a mba and I'm telling you welfare is a crutch---it's been proved many times and is common knowledge.

I'm not talking about the disabled and the elderly---just the lazy shits.
 
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