you thought the republicans were big spenders?

medicineman

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aGq2B3XeGKok&refer=home

how about another NINE POINT SEVEN TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT.lol.WE WILL NEVER PAY IT BACK.BUY GOLD NOW.NOW NOW.DO NOT WAIT .

I AM TRULY TRYING TO DO YOU ALL A FAVOR.AS BIG A ASS HOLE AS I AM.
Geeze max, not everyone has cash coming out their wazoo. If I had a couple a hundred K just lazing around, I'd probably scarf up some of that glitter. I'm more in the lead or copper metal arena, and even copper is pricey.
 

GrowTech

stays relevant.
"enough to pay off 90 percent of the nations home mortgages"

pay 'em off then... maybe people will have money to spend on products/services sold by these failing companies that keep getting bailed out and cutting fancy checks to their employees. :lol:
 

TheBrutalTruth

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"enough to pay off 90 percent of the nations home mortgages"

pay 'em off then... maybe people will have money to spend on products/services sold by these failing companies that keep getting bailed out and cutting fancy checks to their employees. :lol:
They're not going to do that. Despite all their talk of being for the little guy, for the worker the Democrats are not. (Otherwise they'd probably have been paying off all these mortgages all along instead of giving money directly to the banks.)

The Democrats want to keep everyone in slavery to the bankers (same with the Republicans.)

Both political parties are corrupt and do not have the best interests of the Republic in mind.
 

max420thc

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every time you point out that both parties are corrupt .the partisans on both sides deffend themselfs with bull shit about what the other party has done to try and excuse their own actions.
the fact of the matter obongo and the dems have ran this country further into debt in the last month than all the 8 years of the bush admin.
someone should really tell these socialists how economics work.they seem to think all wealth and power comes from the government
the last two years of the bush admin a dem congress controlled the purse stings.when did all of this sky rocketing trillions of dollars in debt start?
oh it was bad before then.i dont want to seem to excuse the R crooks.but to be honest it was a dem control congress that has led to this slipery slope down hill
they have NO fiscal discipline at all
it is like giving a couple of 16 year olds someone ones credit card woth millions and telling them to go to europe and have a great time.spend as much as you want
 

MuaySmoke

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I'm sorry, but I think that's B.S. You trying to tell me that all the mortgages in America add up to more the $9.7 trillion dollars? LOL to whoever believes that crap.

Economists say that world poverty could be cured with $150 billion, but America's mortgages can't be covered with $9.7 trillion? Come on now.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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I'm sorry, but I think that's B.S. You trying to tell me that all the mortgages in America add up to more the $9.7 trillion dollars? LOL to whoever believes that crap.

Economists say that world poverty could be cured with $150 billion, but America's mortgages can't be covered with $9.7 trillion? Come on now.
It might be lower than that, maybe $4.7 Trillion, but I doubt it.

Consider that

A. Most mortgages are 30 year fixed
B. Most mortgages average right around $200,000
C. There's probably 30 - 40 million mortgages out there.
D. At $200,000, those 30 - 40 million mortgages have a book value of $6 - $8 TRILLION.

Muay, do yourself a favor, go back to elementary school and relearn basic math.

Perhaps the bullshit is them saying that world poverty will be fixed with money, it wont be.

The only thing that will fix world poverty is for the people in those nations to stop acting like such sniveling little bitches and revolt against their governments. If they want to develop then there is nothing to stop them, except corrupt government.

Be men, not bitches.
 

ViRedd

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The only thing that will fix world poverty is for the people in those nations to stop acting like such sniveling little bitches and revolt against their governments. If they want to develop then there is nothing to stop them, except corrupt government.
Be men, not bitches.
And an excellent example of this would be the country of Romania. When under Soviet rule, the citizens woke up one day, and because of their government's central planning, the food markets were out of food. This was the last straw for the Romanian people. Hundreds of thousands marched on the palace, drug the Romanian president and his wife out into the street ... and shot them dead. Today, Romania is a shining example of a truly free country. They have a low flat tax, simple rules to follow and few regulations. Government is back where it belongs ... leashed. Capitalism and free markets rule the day in Romanina today and the standard of living is at an all time high.

Why are we going in the opposite direction?

Vi
 

ilkhan

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The value of the mortgage markets is about $10.5 trillion. but at least 3.6 trillion has effectively gone up in smoke. Next will be the corporate mortgage market that will collapse. thats a bunch more money. All this money is gone. In Davos they just had this big meeting there they said 30% of the WORLDS wealth just went poof into thin air.

Meanwhile the Biggest banks are saying "If you don't give us TRILLIONS of dollars this will be worse than the Great depression." They are the ones that are constricting the money supply, they are the ones who engineered this whole mess. I think this whole damn thing was engineered. You are witnessing the biggest hostage situation EVER.

Look at it like this. If you think Carter and Clinton made the laws to loosen the lending restrictions without any input from banksters your kidding yourself. Then under Bush the FED lent money with very low interest thus expanding this bubble. Now the Banks will not lend money until someone fixes their problem. So they hold the people responsible for their fuck up and are saying "If you don't give us Trillions of dollars we will collapse the world economy." Banksters are holding us all hostage.

I say burn them down!! We need sound money and common sence regulations. Not Banksters money games not banksters power grabs. The Romanian Example of how to deal with this is a good one.
 

max420thc

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ilkan you re probably correct.i dont think they wanted a economic collapse it is just their opertunity to try and take over EVERYTHING with worthless money.
i think the shit will eventualy hit the fan and we will have another american revolution.
it will be much uglier this time because of the mass amount of firearms the american public has.
someone is going to snap with what this government is doing and they are going to start the ball rolling down hill.
it always happens that way.always has through out history
 

ViRedd

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ilkan you re probably correct.i dont think they wanted a economic collapse it is just their opertunity to try and take over EVERYTHING with worthless money.
i think the shit will eventualy hit the fan and we will have another american revolution.
it will be much uglier this time because of the mass amount of firearms the american public has.
someone is going to snap with what this government is doing and they are going to start the ball rolling down hill.
it always happens that way.always has through out history
Its already happened. His name was Timothy McVeigh. bongsmilie

Vi
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
wait till there are ten thousand mcveigh's .siting under a bridge with no job .just lost their homes .cant feed their familys.no car no food.wife ran off with bubba.
 

We Love 1

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(Otherwise they'd probably have been paying off all these mortgages all along instead of giving money directly to the banks.)
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Exactly, they bail out the banks like the banks really need to be bailed out.

I honestly don't see how banks can lose money. They only need 10% of the money they lend out and the other 90% is just made up on the spot, AKA fractional reserve banking.

So if 90% of that money is just made up, how can they possibly lose? If the borrower can't make the payments then the bank now owns the property and the banks only paid 10% of the sale value, minus the percent the homeowner has previously paid, with their money in reserve. What a deal, thats over 90% off for every forclosed home that the banks repo. Or am I misinturperting some info?

How dare they charge any interest. 90% of the money is made up and has to be paid back to the banks. Isn't that enough profit?


(The money masters)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=the+money+masters&emb=0&aq=f#

(The fiat money system)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=the+money+masters&emb=0&aq=f#q=the+fiat+money+system&emb=0

(Money as debt)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=the+money+masters&emb=0&aq=f#q=money+as+debt&emb=0


"I say burn them down!! We need sound money and common sence regulations. Not Banksters money games not banksters power grabs. The Romanian Example of how to deal with this is a good one. "

:D

"This was the last straw for the American people. Hundreds of thousands marched on the White House, drug the US president and his wife out into the street ... and shot them dead. Tomorrow, America will be a shining example of a truly free country. "

:D
 

aladdin2685

Well-Known Member
"enough to pay off 90 percent of the nations home mortgages"

pay 'em off then... maybe people will have money to spend on products/services sold by these failing companies that keep getting bailed out and cutting fancy checks to their employees. :lol:
+rep dude!
you totally make sence. if they could only understand. :wall::wall::wall::wall:
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
The value of the mortgage markets is about $10.5 trillion. but at least 3.6 trillion has effectively gone up in smoke. Next will be the corporate mortgage market that will collapse. thats a bunch more money. All this money is gone. In Davos they just had this big meeting there they said 30% of the WORLDS wealth just went poof into thin air.

Meanwhile the Biggest banks are saying "If you don't give us TRILLIONS of dollars this will be worse than the Great depression." They are the ones that are constricting the money supply, they are the ones who engineered this whole mess. I think this whole damn thing was engineered. You are witnessing the biggest hostage situation EVER.

Look at it like this. If you think Carter and Clinton made the laws to loosen the lending restrictions without any input from banksters your kidding yourself. Then under Bush the FED lent money with very low interest thus expanding this bubble. Now the Banks will not lend money until someone fixes their problem. So they hold the people responsible for their fuck up and are saying "If you don't give us Trillions of dollars we will collapse the world economy." Banksters are holding us all hostage.

I say burn them down!! We need sound money and common sence regulations. Not Banksters money games not banksters power grabs. The Romanian Example of how to deal with this is a good one.

I think I made this argument before, the value wasn't lost. The money didn't vanish into thin air.

In the case of those that already owned their homes they had already gave their money to some one else, and thus the only thing they had was the perceived value of the home. Which as reality will show was considerably less than what the inflated market was showing.

In the case of those that have mortgages, they entered contracts to pay a certain amount for their homes, and are now whining that their homes were not worth as much as they thought. Had they looked at historical tends they would have been able to see that houses were over-valued, and in economics, like in physics, what goes up must come down.

Which is the opposite of how government operates, which is what goes up (in price) will rarely come down, and that nothing has to die. Ironically, it means that a government bureaucracy is the closest thing to eternal life that we will ever know.

Anyway, the bottom line is that the only thing that was lost was the perceived value of the homes. No money was destroyed, or created, it was just simply transferred amongst people.

It's all a giant head game. Unfortunately the crazy people that don't understand that if they thought the house was worth $250,000 and they paid $250,000 then ostensibly the house should still be worth $250,000 to them, because that is likely the minimum amount they would take to sell, are the ones that are dictating our nation's policies with billions (if not trillions) being stolen from the tax payers to give them money that they neither deserve, nor can justify being given.

If they thought a house was worth $250,000 and paid that for it when they could not afford the actual payments instead of just the interest then they deserve to get foreclosed. It is not the rest of the nation's responsibility to cover for their stupidity.
 

UncleBuck

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wait till there are ten thousand mcveigh's .siting under a bridge with no job .just lost their homes .cant feed their familys.no car no food.wife ran off with bubba.
is that what happened to you?

your wife ran off with "bubba"?

you poor thing. your limp dick just couldn't do it for her.

you probably feel pretty stupid now that obama has cut the deficit in half while lowering taxes for 95% of americans.
 

Winter Woman

Well-Known Member
is that what happened to you?

your wife ran off with "bubba"?

you poor thing. your limp dick just couldn't do it for her.

you probably feel pretty stupid now that obama has cut the deficit in half while lowering taxes for 95% of americans.

At the same time the national debt went from $10 trillion to $16.7 trillion.
 
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