fadetoblack72
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Why are you trying to dry it so fast? I thought that it would be better bud if it was cured slowly.
4 day bud dryer for $40.
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lilmafia513
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Right, it is better when CURED slowly, but the idea behind this is for people who don't have ideal conditions to hang dry, and it also speeds the process up to get to curing. Then you can let them jars sit all over, it doesn't take up as much room as a bunch of plants hanging all over.
panhead
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If you asked this question its likely you did not take the time to read the whole thread as this has been answered several times.
You said the key word in your post which is "you thought",much that is repeated as fact about drying & curring is unfounded myth which is a polite way for saying pure bullshit,the main thing that needs to be taken out of the bud is clorophyll,other things like the elements in fertilizer will mostly never leave the plant,its the break down of clorophyll that makes buds taste harsh,too many people repeat what they have heard as fact & it just keeps right on going.
There are also a large group of growers who have tried quick dry methods & their buds tasted like pure shit then they try to pass off their experience as facts about quick drying machines,when you find out the method they used its allways some squirelly ass shit where the cooked it in an oven or microwave,on top of a lamp or ballast ect,never in a well thought out high air flow even tempature bud dryer.
Of all the people ive seen tout slow dry methods as being the way to achieve "connaseur" type buds none have ever done any real side by side testing using a properly designed bud dryer vs standard methods,proper testing requires the use of other people & they are to never know which weed is which,all the negative info allways flows like a river from those saying they didnt like the way the weed tasted,its caled placebo,they think its going to be bad & it is because they knew & had pre disposed beliefs or were succeptable to believing things they read others spew as fact.
I'd be willing to match bud for bud in a smoke off with any grower who's skill level is equal to my skills any day & all my buds are quick dried,ive slow dried many a harvest before i adopted this method & the way i dry there are no differences.
The reasons for quick dryers are easy,number one why have weed hanging all over the place for weeks when you can get it done & over with in a few days,with no difference in taste/quality of buzz.
Another reason is time,many growers like myself simply dont have the space to even start to hang the weed they grow,nor do they have the time,as it is i have several dryers loaded at all times & when buds come out i go chop more down & reload,if it werent for the dryers i'd never be able to dry everything before the next harvest.
fadetoblack72
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Thanks for the info panhead.
Hey Panhead, GREAT idea and thanks for sharing. I'm fixing to get my very first harvest in about 2 weeks so I plan on starting to build one of these next week.
I got the "general idea" of the light buld mounted inside, but is there any possibility that you can/would post some updated pics of the finished version ???
Again, thanks for sharing the idea and any more updated pics would be greatly appreciated.
Also, your design for the homemade carbon filter to go with this would be great to see. I have read through all 19 pages and saw "mention" of the $5.00 carbon filter but never saw and pics or description on how to make one and add it to the system.
I got the "general idea" of the light buld mounted inside, but is there any possibility that you can/would post some updated pics of the finished version ???
Again, thanks for sharing the idea and any more updated pics would be greatly appreciated.
Also, your design for the homemade carbon filter to go with this would be great to see. I have read through all 19 pages and saw "mention" of the $5.00 carbon filter but never saw and pics or description on how to make one and add it to the system.
panhead
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My harvest is just about over but the dryers are still in use for a few more days,once they are done working i can & will post updated pics,if you need to finish your design before i update the pics showing the metal cover over the light its real easy,i just used an exhaust cap i got from home depot,it is supposed to be for a 4 inch hot water heater pipe,i mounted the metal cap over the light bulb.
The $3 carbon filter tutorial is somewhere burried on this site,gimme a few & i'll google it up & post a link to the tutorial.
Google is awesome,i havent thought about this tutorial in a while,these filters work fantastic,here ya go.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/63004-my-3-carbon-filter.html
In a week or so i'll have free time & empty dryers,i will get some new pics up.
Trichopathic1
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That is BADASS !! I have yet to harvest. But will be soon!! You look as though youve got some serious experience.I have heard both sides of the drying and i would like to make one of these and try for myself.Thanks Panhead! I would definately use this if drying fast was needed ++REP
panhead
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Thank you.That is BADASS !! I have yet to harvest. But will be soon!! You look as though youve got some serious experience.I have heard both sides of the drying and i would like to make one of these and try for myself.Thanks Panhead! I would definately use this if drying fast was needed ++REP
Even though i do have a need to dry quickly its not all about the drying time,it's as much about quality as it is about speed.
When i 1st started to understand that i needed a better/faster method than the standard hang & cure method i was using i started researching other methods of drying,at that time i discovered what really makes weed that is improperly dried taste like shit which is clorophyll.
My research on the subject is what led me to join this site in the 1st place,i was using google to search key words & a thread on this site came up,after starting to get into the thread i discovered a design for a dryer much like my design,the man who designed the dryer was a very experienced grower with much intelligence behind his posts & methods,i started researching his methods & his theory's on drying weed.
Taking into account that this member is a professional grower who openly makes his living 100% from selling the weed he grew (his words not mine) i knew he had a vested interest in getting top quality from every harvest,i also realized that if any professional grower was consistently putting out product tha was harsh,bad tasting or low quality he wouldnt be in business long,this member had been using the quick dry method over 5 years at that point,this assured me that his method was sound because no customers would put up with bad smoke for 6 years,they'd find another source.
It is highly important to me & my wife that i allways have top quality smoke,i do not sell but i do have strong reasons to be concerned about quality,my wife is very i'll with RR Multiple Sclerosis & regular street shwag is valueless to her as medicine,she needs strong & potent smoke to help her with pain relief,also i have a large family where most smoke daily so i grow enough to supply my entire family with all their smoking need so they never have to frequent drug dealers & waste cash,im a very frugal man as is most my family so its allways been important that the quality of my buds be as good or better than any other Medical strains available on the street,this way nobody has to ever spend hard earned cash on weed.
When i first adopted this method i did not put all my fish in one barrel,i halved up the harvest with half being dried & cured using the standard slow dry methods i had allways used,then less than half was quick dreid,i then needed test subjects.
I personally rolled up a bunch of joints from both dry techniques & passed out samples to my family,i never told them that there were any differences in the 2 different samples,i never told them that one sample was quick dried & one was slow dried,im very aware of the placebo effect & the power of suggestion so i wanted to take away the possibility for skewed or biased results.
I asked every member to smoke each sample seperately & to write down their thoughts,to comment on taste,how the smoke burned,the smell,the after taste,how the buzz was,how long the buzz lasted,i also asked them to write down any negative issues they might find with either sample,remember these are all family members who i supply all their needs for free so they were glad to help me seeing that i only wanted to grow them better weed.
After i got everybodies papers i sat down & read them all,not one member reported any issues with bad taste,no harsh taste,no short term buzz,no headaches,no nausia,no bad smell ect,no negative issues were reported & most reported that they thought both samples tasted the same,after reading the positive feedback from the comparison tests i knew i'd never hang dry my buds again.
I also used this exact testing method with the concept of flushing the plants before harvest,in this case also no members reported any differences or negative issues with the non flushed sample vs the flushed sample,this is when i knew how much effect the placebo places on growers shoulders,the test subjects/family i used were not little kids or new smokers, they were all well seasoned smokers & all were over 50 years old,they've smoked dope for decades & i trust their opinions,aagain after these tests i became fully aware of how larg an influence the power of suggestion & placebo plays in growers minds,if they know any details where they have even heard can make a difference their veiws will be biased & not valid.
Since adopting this quick dry/no flush method ive experienced no difference in quality,no difference in taste,no difference in the buzz & no difference in the bag appeal of the finished buds.
What i have experienced is absolutely no chance of having a harvest turn moldy,no strong smell fouling up the building,no large amounts of weed laying around & perfectly dried buds that are equal in quality with any other growers buds.
Trichopathic1
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First off, Thanks for sharing your situation with me,so that I better understand where your coming from with your theorys.Im truly sorry to hear about your wifes illness.And its very valiant of you to do this for your wife and family!
Since were on the drying subject.Yesterday when we were checking trichomes on the plants we cut a small lower bud off the bigger plant,which we never have done yet.we trimmed all the leafs off it and put it in a paper towel with it folded in half and put it on top of our dvr where warmth exhausts through vent holes.that was at 7 pm last nite.this morning I came downstairs and checked it out.It wasnt fully dry and it dosent have that fruity,citrusy smell anymore.it smells like lawn clippings.Is this from too much heat?too much light getting through the paper towel? Thanks for all your great info panhead
Since were on the drying subject.Yesterday when we were checking trichomes on the plants we cut a small lower bud off the bigger plant,which we never have done yet.we trimmed all the leafs off it and put it in a paper towel with it folded in half and put it on top of our dvr where warmth exhausts through vent holes.that was at 7 pm last nite.this morning I came downstairs and checked it out.It wasnt fully dry and it dosent have that fruity,citrusy smell anymore.it smells like lawn clippings.Is this from too much heat?too much light getting through the paper towel? Thanks for all your great info panhead
panhead
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What your smelling where it smells kinda like wet hay or grass is normal,the smell is comming from the Clorophyll that is breaking down in the leaf matter within the bud,the bulk of clorophyll that buds contain is in leaf matter,only very small amounts of clorophyll are contained in the pistill's & calyx's which make up the bulk of most buds,knowing this for smoother smoke its allways best to remove as much leaf matter as possible when trimming.First off, Thanks for sharing your situation with me,so that I better understand where your coming from with your theorys.Im truly sorry to hear about your wifes illness.And its very valiant of you to do this for your wife and family!
Since were on the drying subject.Yesterday when we were checking trichomes on the plants we cut a small lower bud off the bigger plant,which we never have done yet.we trimmed all the leafs off it and put it in a paper towel with it folded in half and put it on top of our dvr where warmth exhausts through vent holes.that was at 7 pm last nite.this morning I came downstairs and checked it out.It wasnt fully dry and it dosent have that fruity,citrusy smell anymore.it smells like lawn clippings.Is this from too much heat?too much light getting through the paper towel? Thanks for all your great info panhead
After the buds are 100% dried it takes a week or two before the bud starts to regain its skunk smell,buds that still smell like grass have not broken down all the clorophyll in the leaf matter & the smell is normal.
lilmafia513
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wow, just caught up on the last page and this one......impressed.
You just gave me the idea to do my own study on my family, with this.
I always knew you knew your stuff pan, but never to that level. I'm all ears for any info. you can spare. Got two of my girls down last night and made a little bigger version of this, but in a tv. cabinet.
It's in my journal in the sig, if interested. https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/124405-my-cabinet-grow-journal-77.html#post2085645
You just gave me the idea to do my own study on my family, with this.
I always knew you knew your stuff pan, but never to that level. I'm all ears for any info. you can spare. Got two of my girls down last night and made a little bigger version of this, but in a tv. cabinet.
It's in my journal in the sig, if interested. https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/124405-my-cabinet-grow-journal-77.html#post2085645
panhead
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Maybe im too blind to see but after looking twice i cant find any pics in your journal of your dryer,what page are the pics on ?
lilmafia513
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when you click the link it takes you right to it, not just like yours, but got the fan and the intake for air, and just hung them up on string i ran. Tried to lay some to dry befor, and they go flat on one side. Just not dense enough i guess. So i hung them up.
They look tasty already and it's only been two days. The leaf edges (whats left) are getting curled in, but they still feel fluffy. They lost some smell already, but not all the way.
They look tasty already and it's only been two days. The leaf edges (whats left) are getting curled in, but they still feel fluffy. They lost some smell already, but not all the way.
Alright, I thought I would share some pics of the start of my bud dryer, I'm basically in the middle of the build, but you should be avle to get the basics from what I've got done so far. Of course, props have to out to Al B. and Panhead for the initial desogn and builds, I only used their design to suit my own needs and felt I improved on it some as far as the rack mounts and vents are concerned. I bought some 2" round metal louvered vents and have eight of them, 4 on each side for incoming air along with 30 holes drilled in the top lid. The very bottom vents are just that, just for ventilation purposes, the next set towards the top of the tote serve as air intakes AND they are used to mount the lower/bottom screen. The top screen is mounted on the upper inside lid of the tote, they will only go in one way and only fit one way, VERY easy to take in and out, they just simply sit on the vents and the upper lip of the tote, they lift right out. I have a 6" booster fan reduced down to a 4" collector to a dryer vent and a carbon filter mounted on the outside of the dryer vent/ouitside of the tote. The fan will be put on a variable speed switch (waiting on that to arrive). I will also mount a green light at the very rear towards the fan intake for heat purposes, I will have a rain cap over the light and the light will also have it's own on/off switch with a slide dimmer to adjust the heat. Also, I bought everything to make my own screens, that way they are a perfect fit and very easy to take in and out, all materials to make your own screens for under $20.00 bucks and they look and function so much better in my opinion. Tell me what ya think so far. Special thanks to Panhead for starting this thread.
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Trichopathic1
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Thats a pretty sweet setup.I cant wait to build something like this.Makes me wanna go to home depot right now!! Awesome job on that Unit man
+rep 4 sure Cant wait to see how it works
also Thanks to Panhead for starting this thread
+rep 4 sure Cant wait to see how it works
also Thanks to Panhead for starting this thread
