AGSteve
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are you giving them any nutes?
Mini Aeroponic Garden
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Spliffious
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yeah ppm is 1020... first week with nutes, doing the intro thing. then gonna jump to 1500-2000 ppm.... at least thats what ive read. This blue moon stuff is made at the hydro shop i visit often. The owner is cool and he designed it- it's so easy for 1 gallon of water, you just add an ounce of grow #1 and an oz. of #2 bottle and waaallllllaaaa done. It also has a buffer in it to not affect the ph.... I also have tested ph @ 5.5...
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AGSteve
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the usual thing with young plants is nute burn. i think that would be my preferred guess but it could be heat or wind burn. empty the rez and just use ph'd water for a week to see if new growth is ok.
Spliffious
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dude i appreciate the feedback.
cool I guess it could be the fan hitting it hard from one angle?
or the new additional lights in clamp lamps are getting to hot? Causing warm temps in Water and in air quality.
I'm about to quit and invest in new LED's like the Illuminator UFO or procyon 100... And then make my reservoir myself....
I'm timid on the prices though? $400 for a good company backed ufo-$600 on procyon that puts out twice the light.
go big or go home!
Aerogarden pisses me off already!
AGSteve
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no worries mate. all the best for whatever you do decide to do. i would stick with the ag. then use it for cloning.
GypsyBush
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Thanks....!!! It's been fun !!!
All right... have you figured out what you are doing then?
DITCH THE CFLS AND GET A REAL LIGHT...
400 HPS is the minimum... but you can "get by" with a 250 for personal smoke if you don't burn all day long....
Throw the away...
Oh wait they are full of mercury... use them in your house...
Get a real light to flower....
I used my fan to blow away from the plants...
Kinda like an exhaust, if you will.... and I had mine on high...
No.. I see nothing
Again... I see nothing...
Heat is a serious issue with growing in tight quarters...
Get an HPS with a cooltube... you will thank yourself for doing it...
Just make sure you set it up proper...
YUP...
No light is a must, but just as important is ventilation....
Ventilation ventilation ventilation....What should i do to get water temp down in tank and lamp heat down. before root rot hits?
Good luck...!!!
GypsyBush
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Steve is a great guy... he has good info....
Use the fan backwards.. not blowing on your plants... but rather drawing the heat away....
Gotta have ventilation...
The air not only has to circulate within the chamber, it must also be exchanged for fresh air...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NO LEDs for the next 10 years bro... no yet....
Get an HPS WITH A COOLTUBE... you will not regret it...
Go with a 400 and you will be stoked.... I am serious...
I ran a 600 HPS inside of a 20"x36"54" tent with no problems...
Do it right and you will be happy....
Sure... makes perfect sense...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dude, don't waste your money.. listen to me.. please...
I get nothing from telling you this... but you can save your hard earned cash...
Go to HTG and just order the light and cool tube with a fan....
I get nothing from telling you this... but you can save your hard earned cash...
Go to HTG and just order the light and cool tube with a fan....
You will not go anywhere without proper ventilation... and proper lighting...
I hear you... and if you want to cure that, instead of upgrading 18.7 times.. listen to what I am saying...
Ditch the UFO CFL plan...
Get a real light.. it will give you real buds...
But... in the end it is your money and your grow... so go with what you know....
But I would listen hard on this one....
Cheers...
Spliffious
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On a serious note. the cops came by yesterday, somebody hit a mailbox? My house i Rent used to be a grow house two years ago. Should I be at all worried? And Airport's near by, air traffic sometimes? Worry or not?
Peace Love and prosper!
Wow I think I hit a soft Spot. Fuck LED's for now then. I will be looking into a cool tube. anywhere from 4-600 w. from my local hydro shop. And again thanks for solid info, keep it comin!Steve is a great guy... he has good info....
Again I thank You guys, I've completely began to rely on yall's info. it's good stuff man!
Use the fan backwards.. not blowing on your plants... but rather drawing the heat away....
Ok that makes sense.
Gotta have ventilation...
The air not only has to circulate within the chamber, it must also be exchanged for fresh air...
So with a closet grow, what should I do for an exhaust? I Knocked a hole in the wall that goes I guess throughout the house. Hopefully be good enough for now! By the way, closet is in back of house.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NO LEDs for the next 10 years bro... no yet....
Why not Led's yet. I've read into it a bit and there are a couple of solid company's backing there products. Illuminator looks so cool and you'll be saving on that bill?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dude, don't waste your money.. listen to me.. please...
I get nothing from telling you this... but you can save your hard earned cash...
Go to HTG and just order the light and cool tube with a fan....
like the one you put in your tent? I will be doing almost an exact replica of your tent. I found one in my girls attic! Wrapped it in plastic and taped it up tight! I love it! i just can't find those damn zippers for the front yet. Where do I get stick on zippers? And Lowe's didn't have 4 inch can fan? where do i find?
You will not go anywhere without proper ventilation... and proper lighting...
I will ditch the cfl's
I hear you... and if you want to cure that, instead of upgrading 18.7 times.. listen to what I am saying...
Ditch the UFO Led plan...
But what about the procyon 100 being so amazing?
Get a real light.. it will give you real buds...
But... in the end it is your money and your grow... so go with what you know....
Problem- Im almost out of money! If I send AG back! I get $200.00 back. I Will be able to purchase one solid light system around $3-4oo.
How much will a cool tube run me?
But I would listen hard on this one....
Cheers...
Peace Love and prosper!
GypsyBush
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WTF??? How would I know if you need to worry? I guess you should...Spliffious said:
That's really bad...Spliffious said:
Spliffious said:
Spliffious said:
What are the dimensions of your space?
You need adequate ventilation... or don't even try it...
Spliffious said:
Did you buy the snake oil too...???
They are just not ready yet... but hey... if you got a spare $600 I would love for you to prove me wrong...
But I thought you were trying to get some bud on a budget...
Spliffious said:
Is it Panda film... white on one side and black on the other?
4" fan will not suffice... you need a 4" CENTRIFUGAL fan for the cool tube and a 6" CENTRIFUGAL fan and carbon filter for the exhaust...
If you skimp on ventilation... you will fail.. sorry...
Spliffious said:
Very smart... you can vegg and clone with them... but I prefer HO T-5s for that...
Spliffious said:
I am amazing too... do I get $600 ????
Spliffious said:
My 600 digital HPS/MH with cool tube shipped to the end of the world Alaska was $311...
Do you have internet?
Have you heard of google...
Search for HTGsupply.com
You will find a world of things there...
here.. check these...
http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=48956
http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=48137
http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=52609
http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=52557
Check the prices... HTG rocks... but remember to support your local store too...Spliffious said:Wow I think I hit a soft Spot. Fuck LED's for now then. I will be looking into a cool tube. anywhere from 4-600 w. from my local hydro shop. And again thanks for solid info, keep it comin!
Peace Love and prosper!
Hope this helps...
bigjesse1922
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well gypsy how goes it brother?
havent heard from you lately...your mad at me because i am waiting until grow #2 to buy my HID setup, i know.
no curses, i hope.
did you know that if you compressed the history of the world into a day, the entire existance of humanity would comprise only the last 20 seconds of that day.
havent heard from you lately...your mad at me because i am waiting until grow #2 to buy my HID setup, i know.
no curses, i hope.
did you know that if you compressed the history of the world into a day, the entire existance of humanity would comprise only the last 20 seconds of that day.
Spliffious
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That's really bad...
Hows that bad? Im brand new to this! I'm young and dumb, but I do have a couple of college degrees.(I just wish, I would have majored in weed college!), and think i can figure this hydro/aero deal out quick? Plus you! RENOB (boner spelt backwards), have trial tested. right, and this is prob the best site for AG enthusiasts to chat. so on that Note!
What are the dimensions of your space?
Right now. it's 3'x3'and about 12' high, tight closet. but if roomate moves in w/ girlfreind this month. I would have a small office room 12'x6'. To place tent in the perfect corner open closet.
You need adequate ventilation... or don't even try it...
the room temp lowered w/ new 6"x4" hole in wall. it's like 40-50 degees outside right now too, so the house is cool inside. i would prob, have heat situation in summer when house is muggy.
Did you buy the snake oil too...???
They are just not ready yet... but hey... if you got a spare $600 I would love for you to prove me wrong...
I don't have the cash for Led's anyway? and im scetchy about all this right now! first timer shakes.
But I thought you were trying to get some bud on a budget...
I am on a budget kindof. I just really don't want to waste my time on yielding nothing in AG!
Is it Panda film... white on one side and black on the other?
not panda film. but a $18.00, 25ft roll of 6 mil black plastic from lowes. it's black on black..... Whoops..... no white inside for reflectant compatibility. ohh well, it has no holes in it and it is almost air tight. I have the front, more like a drape right now.
Where did you get those zippers at? Im bout to just order them offline somewhere....
If you skimp on ventilation... you will fail.. sorry...
I am amazing too... do I get $600 ????
You should get paid! you're a scientist for medicinal users and Stealthy AG grows.
My 600 digital HPS/MH with cool tube shipped to the end of the world Alaska was $311... good price indeed.
Check the prices... HTG rocks... but remember to support your local store too...
Yeah the local garden supply shop in the neighboring city is so fun to go too. It's really bright w/ lots of technology and growing mediums. The dude that owns the place makes his own nutrients and gave me fatty discount on product. Sweet man!
wanted to tell ya thanks gypsy for pronto replies, i dont wanna waste anyoneone's time. Yours or mine! But I do wanna learn this fast....! so please be patient w/ me. I play online to much and am an impulse buyer with too many new ideas. I'm dying to get on top of this. I guess cuz it's such an expensive first investment?
F.Y.I. I contacted aerogarden customer service last week on thurs. and finally got through to a lady(it took 3-30 min failed attempts w/ shitty busy music). told her the AG motor made noise and died, also told her that 2 of 3 floros were already flickering, and fading black at bulbs base. She promptly said she was concerned and shipped me a newly designed quiter pump, 2 more bulbs, and a salsa seed kit. I did mention that I was in mid grow. Free shit is fun! You should give it a shot!
GypsyBush
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I just meant you shouldn't be relying on newbs for info.. that is all...
I am more than willing to help, but I am just as new to this as you...
Find an experienced grower's thread like Al's or Stink Buds and follow it...
The blind leading the blind has never been a good proposition...
Spliffious
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alrighty then. thanks for reply. I just wanted to steal your ideas on how to design my hydro/tent. Learn from somebody like you. Already experimenting w/ ideas! It's fun to chat with people about it, almost like a quick release, because I can't chat w/ any of my homies bout this idea of mine!I just meant you shouldn't be relying on newbs for info.. that is all...
I am more than willing to help, but I am just as new to this as you...
Find an experienced grower's thread like Al's or Stink Buds and follow it...
The blind leading the blind has never been a good proposition...
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Spliffious
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Ive posted a few pics.
Yellow guy is bagseed and @ 3 weeks veg.
2 others are WW and @ 2 weeks veg.
24/0 lights first 2 weeks
18/6 lighting now.
PH leveled at 6.1.
Nutes at 1420. (I'm think'in to high?)
Temp between 70-80.
humid 60% mostly.
1 desk fan circulating air in closet.
Have two large airstones and pumps in AG.
(should I take the foil off the wall?) Heat?
0r do
I need a exhaust fan in top of closet pullin air out into attic?
My fresh airflow is bad, unless I open the door, But that defeats the purpose of being stealthy and quiet.
( I just recently punched a hole in the wall for air).Instead of drawing it from under the door. Put a draft guard under to seal it off good(iwas surprised in the muggyness of closet and increase in heat.
Ahhhhhh help...I kiss ass...kiss-ass
Yellow guy is bagseed and @ 3 weeks veg.
2 others are WW and @ 2 weeks veg.
24/0 lights first 2 weeks
18/6 lighting now.
PH leveled at 6.1.
Nutes at 1420. (I'm think'in to high?)
Temp between 70-80.
humid 60% mostly.
1 desk fan circulating air in closet.
Have two large airstones and pumps in AG.
(should I take the foil off the wall?) Heat?
0r do
I need a exhaust fan in top of closet pullin air out into attic?
My fresh airflow is bad, unless I open the door, But that defeats the purpose of being stealthy and quiet.
( I just recently punched a hole in the wall for air).Instead of drawing it from under the door. Put a draft guard under to seal it off good(iwas surprised in the muggyness of closet and increase in heat.
Ahhhhhh help...I kiss ass...kiss-ass
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xxDogTagZxx
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Im not a professional at liquid nutes but over 1400 ppm i think is definitely to high. I would cut bak to either 1100-1200
Spliffious
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I finally started my own thread..... I won't mess around here much anymore...... please come check it out. and throw in your opinion.....
Thundercat
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Hey splifious, if you want us to check out your thread, you have to post a link to it. Also 1400 is way to high for plants that are only 2 weeks old. It is generally best not to give them any nutes for the first 1.5-2 weeks, unless they NEED them. Then you should start around 400ppm, and ramp up by 200-400 increments from there I believe. From the first pics you posted a couple pages back that was the first thing that I thought when you said you were at 1000ppm with them that young. I would give the plants a good flush with clean ph'd water, for a couple days, and see if you notice an improvement, then start around 600ppm prolly, if they do good, go up to 800 or 1000 the next week. Just my opinion. I'm fighting the ppm in my soil right now. All my plants are doing well, but several of them have been getting a tiny bit of burn on the leaves. I've flushed with clean water the last to times I watered. Before this I had just found out that my tap water had about 400ppm of what ever kinda shit in it. So I switched to distilled for the flush, and I'm trying to figure out a plan for the next couple months, maybe a filter, or maybe buying water, not sure yet. Any way, on another note, the copper colored spots on the leaves mean something, I can't remeber whatit is. I wanna was mag def. but I'm not posative. Just google common marijuana defficiancies you should be able to find the info on it. Hope this helps man. 
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Spliffious
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thanks dude for the insight.Hey splifious, if you want us to check out your thread, you have to post a link to it. Also 1400 is way to high for plants that are only 2 weeks old. It is generally best not to give them any nutes for the first 1.5-2 weeks, unless they NEED them. Then you should start around 400ppm, and ramp up by 200-400 increments from there I believe. From the first pics you posted a couple pages back that was the first thing that I thought when you said you were at 1000ppm with them that young. I would give the plants a good flush with clean ph'd water, for a couple days, and see if you notice an improvement, then start around 600ppm prolly, if they do good, go up to 800 or 1000 the next week. Just my opinion. I'm fighting the ppm in my soil right now. All my plants are doing well, but several of them have been getting a tiny bit of burn on the leaves. I've flushed with clean water the last to times I watered. Before this I had just found out that my tap water had about 400ppm of what ever kinda shit in it. So I switched to distilled for the flush, and I'm trying to figure out a plan for the next couple months, maybe a filter, or maybe buying water, not sure yet. Any way, on another note, the copper colored spots on the leaves mean something, I can't remember what it is. I wanna was mag def. but I'm not positive. Just google common marijuana deficiencies you should be able to find the info on it. Hope this helps man.
alright i flushed and settled ph at 5.9 again. I added no nutes and have 180 ppm. Must have been the leftover from AG reservoir. I also noticed distilled water has a ppm of 10-50. I will just let them chill. I even clipped the real shitty burnt lower leaves. (hope that doesnt F them up to bad).
Ill check into copper colored spots.
Here's the link to my new thread!
https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/163104-sending-aerogarden-200-back-try.html
Thundercat
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Sounds like you should be off to a good start man. And if the stuff you cut off was damaged, or dieing, it won't hurt them at all, it will help them to focus he growth on the healthy parts of the plant. I don't think the 150ppm will hurt a thing, your prolly right, and it was some residue. I'll come check out the new thread, to see how it goes for ya.
I also agree with gypsy about getting a better light. I just ordered a 400mh with an air cooled euro reflector for 179 from htg. The euro reflector was a 59 dollar upgrade, it was only 119 with out it. They also have a 400w mh, hps conversion light for like 169, and if you step up to the air cooled reflector, its only like 215 I think. Thank a look man. You can put a carbon filter on the intake side of the light in your room, and then put a 6 inch fan on the other end that goes up into your attic. This will cause a vacuum almost in the closet, and draw air in from any where it can. The carbon filter will take care of smell, and the exhaust into the attic will remove the heat from the light.
I also agree with gypsy about getting a better light. I just ordered a 400mh with an air cooled euro reflector for 179 from htg. The euro reflector was a 59 dollar upgrade, it was only 119 with out it. They also have a 400w mh, hps conversion light for like 169, and if you step up to the air cooled reflector, its only like 215 I think. Thank a look man. You can put a carbon filter on the intake side of the light in your room, and then put a 6 inch fan on the other end that goes up into your attic. This will cause a vacuum almost in the closet, and draw air in from any where it can. The carbon filter will take care of smell, and the exhaust into the attic will remove the heat from the light.
GypsyBush
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Thanks for replying TC... as you know.. I have been a little busy....
Spliff.. you are more than welcome here ... anytime.... you just have to get past my grouchiness...
I live with pain... it sucks... always nagging me... always 24/7...
There are times that I get very raw... that is how i am, but I used to be able to hide a little better... meaning I was more polite...
Since I busted my leg., I have become very short... and to the point... border line rude...
I mean no harm by it... I am just always left with no patience... the pain takes it all away...
So I am sorry if I seemed like an asshole... I probably was...
Anyways.. give us the link, better yet.. put it on your signature and know that you are always welcome here....
Cheers....