the prob is i check my ph in water and it reads 6.4 i also check my ppm it reads 500ppm now here is what i don't understand after i water i check the readings of the run off water the ph reads 5.4 and the ppms read 1450ppm wtf please tell me if this is abnormal or am i just trippin thanks
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smokeybandit22
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sounds like there are nutes in the soil
lampshade
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You have a salt build up in your soil. Even if you always pH balance, you can still provide too much salt. These are toxic to the plants and accumulate in soil. I would flush heavily, just take each plant to a bathroom and flush in a shower or sink with balanced water. Your plants will take off after this.
lampshade
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yes thats very high. You can flush where they are at, it just sucks b/c you have to keep carrying and dumping water. Get something to collect the water, maybe you have a rubbermaid tub, and put the pot in that and flush away until the run off is close to what it is when you poured it in.
smokeybandit22
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your ph is in range. are there nutes in the soil or not? you do need to flush-2-3 times the volume of your container-than immediately feed
yeah there is nutes in the soil i went up to 700ppm max 1 time and 500ppm 2 times and the rest 300 ppm in the 2 months of the plants life. ihave never even gone remotly close to 1400ppm why is the run off reading that?my meter is very accurate so i know its not miss reading.i have also flushed but one flush at a time never 2 times in a row.i'm guessing what ever is causing these numbers has a good part to do with my probs.i think i found out the ph problem.now please don't call me a meat head but your suppose to put nutes before balancing ph levels right or wrong????
smokeybandit22
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yes, nutes first, ph second. post up some pics so we can see ur issues
smokeybandit22
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there you go, good answer-plain and simpleThere is not enough run-off when you are watering, that's why your salts are building up in the soil mate
You should flush like the guy above recommends.
Good luck,
Unity
-so i did like you said i checked the run off and it was 1200 -1400 ppm in the soil wich i don't fuckin understand when the highest i have ever put it was 700ppm usually 300-450ppm is what i put.??
-i checked the ph in the run off the first reading i took was 6.0 ph then i put a second dose of water in the same pot just to double check and it drop to 5.8ph and so on and so on down to 5.3 ph .so i continued to flush this plant till the run off was the same as the water i was putting in witch 6.3 ph.well i can tell ya i spent all fuckin night doin this to 14 of them 4 hours and over 85 gallons of water another what the fuck??why did it take soo long to flush these right ? I probably wouldn't have to flush them that much if i was using gas as my nutes.anyways i am yet to see a difference
in the plants it's been 2 day and pots are still soaked about how long till i see a change in the plants???and will they take a shock from the over flushing?????and how can i get the nutes back into to them without running into the same prob i just had??
-i checked the ph in the run off the first reading i took was 6.0 ph then i put a second dose of water in the same pot just to double check and it drop to 5.8ph and so on and so on down to 5.3 ph .so i continued to flush this plant till the run off was the same as the water i was putting in witch 6.3 ph.well i can tell ya i spent all fuckin night doin this to 14 of them 4 hours and over 85 gallons of water another what the fuck??why did it take soo long to flush these right ? I probably wouldn't have to flush them that much if i was using gas as my nutes.anyways i am yet to see a difference
in the plants it's been 2 day and pots are still soaked about how long till i see a change in the plants???and will they take a shock from the over flushing?????and how can i get the nutes back into to them without running into the same prob i just had??
Don't know how much 'run-off' you are aiming for, I'm not in soil. I would try it out... First let them get dry again, they will be fine without nutes until then. I think a lot of soil guys switch up every other watering with just water, but in the end, if you want to be sure, you do what you did, check the 'run off' frequently and adjust accordingly.
Now, for the more important lesson here for you. Let's say you pour a 500ppm solution in a shot glass, then you wait until the water evaporates, what do you have left in the glass?
You have 500 ppm of solids left sticking to the glass.
Now, let's say we add another solution with 700 ppm to the same glass, once it has dried up and we measure the ppms again, then we would get 1200 ppm. Are you starting to understand how this works?!
The unused nutes will accumulate in the medium if not flushed regularly i.e some with each watering.
There are established guidelines for this, just go by them and most important off all, check your 'run-off' regularly, like you are doing, in order to catch problems before they turn into catastrophes
Good luck,
Unity
lampshade
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Looks like you are lacking Nitrogen, maybe potassium, and Magnesium/Calcium (hard to tell). Do you use Miracle Grow soil, or other soil with mixed in nutes? Since you flushed, they should be able to absorb those nutes now. Feed them lightly(if there are no slow-release nutes in soil), and they should spring back in 3 days.