Auto flowering mating

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cfler

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I am ordering 10 lowryder autoflowering seeds and am wondering if this will work.

grow out a few and find one male and as many females as will fit in my setup with the male. wait until the male is ready to pollinate then take him out and harvest the pollen then put it on the females. My question is will the females have enough time left after the male has done his thing to make proper seeds? and weather or not I should just grow one male with as many females that will fit in my setup and just let them grow the 2 months together.

Goal is to get as many seeds as I can.
 
longlizard

longlizard

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You can produce nice tiger striped seeds with lowryder, knock em up them let them get old a few weeks longer then you would haverst your bud.
 
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cfler

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that sounds good. I really just want to make sure I can start both the males and females at the same time as it's such a quick plant.
 
SayWord

SayWord

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thats pretty much what i plan on doin with my blueryder seeds. but im only gonna try to polinate one or two females with one male and leave the rest to bud. i need to do a lot more research before i do it tho
 
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cfler

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can you do me a favor and keep me updated on what you find out? I will do the same. any ideas on how many seeds per females we'll get? and where did you get your seeds? the place I'm getting lr2's from was sold out of the other kinds of lr's.
 
SayWord

SayWord

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i got em from attitude. you can PLENTY of seeds from just one fem. hundreds i believe. im not gonna be growin them for another six months or so, cuz im in the middle of a perpetual thats takin up my room and light.
 
longlizard

longlizard

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Lowryder is a beauty, a real gem, low yield is the only downside. If you want pretty buds, save the lowryder pollen and cross it to a (connoisseur) bud you want but can't grow in your area do to growing season and seed variety. Crossing the lowryder is like anyother cross 25% lowryder 50% hybrid 25% connoisseur. With the 50% you have a new variety that will have characteristics of both early finish and bigger buds. To stablize is to select the desired variances; internode maturity (how long of a vegetative stage), best tasting, largest buds, and breed these hybrids to have your stablized hybrid.
e.g. instead of 60 days and a little bag, you could devlop a strain that takes 90 day and produces way more. I like that 60 day strain too, great for 4th of July bud.
 
longlizard

longlizard

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sorry about that. I am stoned. You could save the pollen or leave them together. Its just how many seeds do you want. You run it once seedy you might get seeds the next run, 60 days from pollenation, some will still be viable. You won't have to worry about seeds for a while, witch is good because you can't clone.
 
longlizard

longlizard

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I don't know about killing the pollen, though a good thourgh cleaning would help greatly. With the decrease in viablilty and a good cleaning you might not have any seeds the second run. When seeding outdoors, I only let my males pollenate for 4-5 days more then enough to produce hundreds of seeds. You don't have to leave the male in there the full 60 days and you might want to flower for 75 days. Your bud will be couch-lock but your seeds will be brown and tiger striped. If you leave the male in longer, the bud will keep on devloping. At 75 days you migh have buds will all kinds of seeds brownish black, tiger striped, tan and green, because the pollen kept flowing and you have to clean it anyway.
 
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Briar Patch

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longlizard said:
Lowryder is a beauty, a real gem, low yield is the only downside. If you want pretty buds, save the lowryder pollen and cross it to a (connoisseur) bud you want but can't grow in your area do to growing season and seed variety. Crossing the lowryder is like anyother cross 25% lowryder 50% hybrid 25% connoisseur. With the 50% you have a new variety that will have characteristics of both early finish and bigger buds. To stablize is to select the desired variances; internode maturity (how long of a vegetative stage), best tasting, largest buds, and breed these hybrids to have your stablized hybrid.
e.g. instead of 60 days and a little bag, you could devlop a strain that takes 90 day and produces way more. I like that 60 day strain too, great for 4th of July bud.
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Very interesting Longlizard. This is something I have been wondering about. So in your experience you would say that within that 50% hybrid group they will all finish faster than the connoisseur, but to varying degrees, with each individual plant? So for example some may veg for 6 weeks and bud for 8weeks, and some may veg for 10 weeks and bud for 8 weeks?bongsmilie
 
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SlikWiLL13

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dont pollenate a whole plant! a 4" bud will give you a hundred or so seeds. just pollenate a few lower branches OUTSIDE of your room and when you put it back in the room turn off any fanns for a few hours so the pollen doesnt spread.
 
NiceGrow!

NiceGrow!

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so your saying if i get a hold of some lowryders and cross it with something, your saying i have to cross it again with a hybrid?...
i want to know because i want to cross lr with some plants.
 
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SlikWiLL13

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THIS IS JUST WHAT I HAVE HEARD....

i heard the autoflower trait is recessive, meaning you have less chance of it being passed to it being trasnfered to its offspring. you would have to have a large scale preeding program to pick out the ones that got the autoflower trait and then backcross those.

AM I RIGHT??
 
IslandGreenGuy

IslandGreenGuy

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I have crossed LR2, Lowlife Blueberry, Lowlife AK47 ect ect with regular, non Autoflowering strains such as White Widow, my favorite Big Bud and many others. The common denominator is: you never know what your gonna get.

I have found that on most cases even just breeding Auto flowering strain with auto flowering strain, that the offspring begin to lose their Auto flowering traits within the first couple of generations. After 3 generation, I get barely no auto flowering offspring. At 5 generations I get Zero.

when bread with a normal full size plant with an Auto Flowering one, they almost always end up with full size off spring.

I have on occation had one or two of the offspring stay small, but I have yet to have a full Auto flowering offspring when I bread a Auto with a normal.

Infact I have some Big Bud / Auto Blueberry plants growing right now that are as big as the Straight Big Bud strain I'm growing.

My goal is to make a Bigger yielding auto flowering strain tha finishes in 60-65 days. I'ts not going well at all.

I graphed an Auto Ak with a Fullsize White Widow and couldn't get the dam thing to flower even after being under 12/12 for 10 days, still no sex showing. I don't know what going on with this one.

Thought This might clear up so stuff...
 
IslandGreenGuy

IslandGreenGuy

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Briar Patch said:
IslandGreenGuy said:
when bread with a normal full size plant with an Auto Flowering one, they almost always end up with full size off spring.

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Thanks for the info Guy. Could you comment on what finishing times are for the F1's as compared to the full sized parents finish time?
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I don't use an Eye loop to look at the trics, I just have an Idea of what I want them to look like.

They Seem to finish around the same time, the parents finish a little bit later, but that might just be me cutting them later. There isn't to much of a difference.

I wonder how the Breeders do it? I would love to have a better insight on how to keep the Auto flowerin Traits strong through generations.
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