So I need to give one plant PHed water and see what the Runoff is and go from there??
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So I need to give one plant PHed water and see what the Runoff is and go from there??
Tricks
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You always PH your water, but yeah check your runoff. What type of soil and nutes?
Foxfarm Oceanforest with Foxfarm nutes. I have been Phing the water the whole time.
Tricks
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Good, whats your runoff tell you?
I am at work right now. I will check the runoff when I get home on one of the plants.
All 10 of my plants are doing the same thing pretty much with they yellowing.
Tricks
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Yeah, that really makes me think its PH related. It looks like you might be locing out one or two key elements.
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FFOF is pH stable.... it's also pretty hot. I'd just give them water and let them grow out of it. If you keep pumping them full of nutes it's only going to make things worse. It'll usually take 3 or 4 days to snap out of it, longer with small plants.... quicker with bigger plants.
This freaking sucks.FFOF is pH stable.... it's also pretty hot. I'd just give them water and let them grow out of it. If you keep pumping them full of nutes it's only going to make things worse. It'll usually take 3 or 4 days to snap out of it, longer with small plants.... quicker with bigger plants.
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You should transition to ebb & flow or deep water culture with a completely inert medium like hydroton or lava rock. It's the only way you're going to get as close to complete control as is possible.
Tricks
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FFOF is PH stable untill stuff gets added.
If you wanna solve your prob then test your runoff. I bet ya its around 5.5.
You use tapwater?
I just put tap water in there that was 6.3 and and the runoff was 6.33. So I do not know what the fuck to do.
Some of the tops are looking more yellow today. I think I mind foliar feed them 1/4 strength of Advanced Nutrients REVIVE and see what that does.
Here is that REVIVE site. http://www.advancednutrients.com/illinois/illinois_label/Revive.jpg
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6.3 is fine and 5.5 is fine too. It could be a rotten bag, something in the water or environment. It could also just be too much of any something. FFOF is notoriously hot.
Tricks
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Ooops, well...glad you discoverd that. Now set them backup on there regular feeding schedule and make sure your PH is right. They should perk back up in no time.
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He just transplanted to fresh soil a little over a weak ago and you're telling him to feed!?!
Pimpn, I know it looks rough right now bro, but you have to recognize. The best of intentions do not validate bullshit.
That guy treated his deficiency with an all-purpose nutrient.... veg or whatever; it fixed the problem, so now he thinks he knows what is what. Yeah, his assumptions were wrong, but the treatment was the same in his case, so he was not forced to reevaluate his understanding of disease as it relates to diagnostics.
I'm bummed to have to even acknowledge that guy, but I feel that a disclaimer is warranted. Now I'm going to add him to my ignore list, because continued ignorance on his part is just going to piss me off.
I don't think anyone but the grower is capable of knowing exactly what the problem could be. T doesn't and I don't, so it's up to you to figure out what works and what doesn't. Trial and error, but that how shit gets done. Practical growing is priceless.
He just transplanted to fresh soil a little over a weak ago and you're telling him to feed!?!
Pimpn, I know it looks rough right now bro, but you have to recognize. The best of intentions do not validate bullshit.
That guy treated his deficiency with an all-purpose nutrient.... veg or whatever; it fixed the problem, so now he thinks he knows what is what. Yeah, his assumptions were wrong, but the treatment was the same in his case, so he was not forced to reevaluate his understanding of disease as it relates to diagnostics.
I'm bummed to have to even acknowledge that guy, but I feel that a disclaimer is warranted. Now I'm going to add him to my ignore list, because continued ignorance on his part is just going to piss me off.
I don't think anyone but the grower is capable of knowing exactly what the problem could be. T doesn't and I don't, so it's up to you to figure out what works and what doesn't. Trial and error, but that how shit gets done. Practical growing is priceless.
Last night I flushed my plants with 6.8 water until I got runnoff of 6.3-6.4. I also Foliar fed them with 1/4 strength of the Revive last night. I think I will be good now. I will give an update in a couple days. I am going to calibrate my PH meter every week or so to make sure this shit never happens again.
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I'm the guy that says pH isn't a problem.
That stuff is proper straight from the bag. A wrong pH is just too rare to be looking that way for answers. Never used the Revive though; hope it sees you through.
I'm the guy that says pH isn't a problem.
Never used the Revive though; hope it sees you through.
I think the PH was off in my soil because my PH meter was way off and when I had been watering the soil. I was actually watering with 5.5Ph instead of 6.3 like the meter was reading. THen I recalibrated it and found out my run off was 5.5. I think that locked out Mg.
My friend used Revive from Advanced Nutrients and he had a plant that was all most dead and looked bad and brought it back to life..It was amazing. So he said I could have some of his if I ever had a defiency. It is not supposed to burn either.
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Tricks
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The more you talk the dumber you sound. He had a PH problem and figured it out, thats it dude. All the shit you talk is not gonna change that. Even the poster prolly thinks your a douche by now.
And btw atleast i was spot on with the 5.5PH and no, 5.5 is not good for soil. You can read that in the RIU FAQ, MJ growing 101 as you said before. So do me a favor and put me on ignore, i wont do the same cos i really dontcare.