what the bet air pump for air stones

[Lord Dangly Bits]

these lame ducks never even mentioned this also has to do with calories also. well kind of.

 

[olds442]

British thermal unit (Btu) is a standard unit of energy that is used in the United States and sometimes in the U.K. It represents the amount of thermal energy necessary to raise the temperature of one pound of pure liquid water by one degree Fahrenheit at the temperature at which water has its greatest density (39 degrees Fahrenheit). This Energy just does not go POOF, because you took if from point A, to point B. A

Also a True chiller eats up a lot of Elect.. maybe you are not thinking a CHILLER.... NOT a cooler.. two different things.

hay buddy way do they sell them in hydro store

buddy have you ever looked at one at the store and maybe talked to them about them...fuck im suck of people just picking things apart
all i know is its in my room and the temps droped 6 deg ok and its not costing me and dime

 

[SmokerE]

You have a radiator...in your growroom....i can honestly say I've never seen that before.

 

[Lord Dangly Bits]

I had to lose 15-20 degrees. I did not think you had to only lose 6 degrees. That is cool that it is working for you.

 

[cali-high]

the wisper 20/10 double line pump

 

[olds442]

I had to lose 15-20 degrees. I did not think you had to only lose 6 degrees. That is cool that it is working for you.

sorry if i came off a little mad every body just likes to pick things to bits and i alway give things the benefit of the doubt all i was trying to do when i made this is the cool the air off that comes in the room on a hot day and its working
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[olds442]

You have a radiator...in your growroom....i can honestly say I've never seen that before.

yes i do smokerE the idea came from the cooler they sell in hydro shops it just cheaper then the one in the shops and if you rad gose in your car you have a xatra hahaha

 

[Lord Dangly Bits]

So Olds, How big is the Capacity of this system? And does it dump back into you well or do you have a tank, or what? What kind of fan do you use for the air circulation? And how long has the system been running?

 

[kt0s.6o4]

So Olds, How big is the Capacity of this system? And does it dump back into you well or do you have a tank, or what? What kind of fan do you use for the air circulation? And how long has the system been running?

hey bud you really need to go and read through the whole thread b4 asking ??? about stuff that has already been explained.

good job btw olds

any thoughts on the whole antifreeze/freezer idea???
peace

 

[Lord Dangly Bits]

Ktos, I did read the whole thing. Olds was flipping back and forth between which way he was going to build it. Drain it back into well or use the Tank. The one person had mentioned about needing a bigger pump to over come the pressure. I would think there should be very little pressure after the water leaves the radiator. And him spoke about his CHILLER. Chillers are AC units basically used to CHILL water. So he is either useing the wrong word, or not telling us about his Chiller Coils.

You see, in my line of work. I know a little bit about this subject, and not from some store owner trying to sell something.

If I was Olds, and I was not going to use a CHILLER, then I would be useing two Radiators, one picking the heat up from his room, the other dumping it out under his house where it is cool. But Hey, he only needs to remove 6 degrees. That should be simple to enough.

 

[olds442]

Ktos, I did read the whole thing. Olds was flipping back and forth between which way he was going to build it. Drain it back into well or use the Tank. The one person had mentioned about needing a bigger pump to over come the pressure. I would think there should be very little pressure after the water leaves the radiator. And him spoke about his CHILLER. Chillers are AC units basically used to CHILL water. So he is either useing the wrong word, or not telling us about his Chiller Coils.

You see, in my line of work. I know a little bit about this subject, and not from some store owner trying to sell something.

If I was Olds, and I was not going to use a CHILLER, then I would be useing two Radiators, one picking the heat up from his room, the other dumping it out under his house where it is cool. But Hey, he only needs to remove 6 degrees. That should be simple to enough.

im putting the water back to my well. sorry its not a chiller i just did not now what to call it. im not trying to take the air in the room and cool it im trying to cool the air coming into the room from outside, see its really hot outside my room so i dont want to pump hot air in. i also have the water line coming in underground two feet wich will also help cool it, even more the water coming in is so cold that my holding tank sweats like a beer in the refrigarator so there is no need of a chiller

and for two rad well my grandpa thinks that so funny
so i ask you to explain how that will do anything


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[olds442]

So Olds, How big is the Capacity of this system? And does it dump back into you well or do you have a tank, or what? What kind of fan do you use for the air circulation? And how long has the system been running?

the fan that im useing is for venting but its really big so when the fan is venting its pulling threw the rad and my fans venting all the time more air is good right yha co2 love it

 

[kt0s.6o4]

Drain it back into well or use the Tank. quote]

coulda swore he said he wa gonna use it for his hottub

 

[olds442]

hows it going kt0s.6o4 well what do you think of my rad every body thinks im trying to cool the air in my room when im trying to cool the air coming in


yha when my hottub get here it should be comeing next week ...sorry... for now i will put it back to my well i was allso thinking that i couldint use it for my hottub because then i would need a pump to pump it up to the roof to heat it

 

[Lord Dangly Bits]

OLDS, if you were to use something like this. But get rid of the red, blue and yellow tubing and run your house water in a coil, as in the turqoise color. this would basically be a type of Chiller, useing your well water as your chilling source. The green color would be the water that circulates to your radiator. This system would not use any water, AS IN LOSE WATER. And would be totally inclosed. If your well water is cold enough, and you have enough air volume, and the storage tank that all this is in was large enough. You could cool pretty well really. Also the flow of the chilling water should be reversed. As should the green tube also, this system is in the heat mode, not chill mode right now. This is why I said to remove those other 3 colors of tubing, they are for the heat cycle. Which you do not need. These system works very well for heating, if you can tap into some GeoThermal water from below also.
OH<< that big tank this is all inside of would be full of water that would just stay in there and transfer heat from one tube to another. Heat is both cooling and heating. Heat is a two way street.

Now you have me thinking about all these items laying around that are at my disposal. The only thing is, I do not have a source of very cold water. And My home does not use much water. So would not work well for me.

 

[olds442]

yha it would probably work but i might as well go out and buy a AC
see my fan can get rid of the air fast enought the only problem i have is the air outside is to hot so i want to cool it down as it comes in i do think that if i put two rads face to face then i would get better results. also i was trying to build something that would not cost me money no power cost but i do think that you idea would work

 

[Lord Dangly Bits]

The two radiators are not put together. One is placed at your grow room, to lower the temp of the air going into your room. The other you put under you house, where you say it is cool. So this radiator will release the heat that your system picked up while circulating. If you do not cool your system somehow, it will get just as hot as your outside temp. might not be a few hours, might not even be a few days. Dut it will. This is why I had asked how big the volume was of your system.

And this system that I showed the schematic of. It would use Zero Elect. The system would be cooled by the water you use in your hom. as you use water to take a shower, flush the toilet, do what ever, there water used flows through the turquoise collored pipe, when the new water flows into this coil it cools down the tank. which also has another coil in it that flows water to your radiator. The only elect needed is the pump to make the water move through your radiator, which you need anyone. It is a must.

 

[olds442]

The two radiators are not put together. One is placed at your grow room, to lower the temp of the air going into your room. The other you put under you house, where you say it is cool. So this radiator will release the heat that your system picked up while circulating. If you do not cool your system somehow, it will get just as hot as your outside temp. might not be a few hours, might not even be a few days. Dut it will. This is why I had asked how big the volume was of your system.

And this system that I showed the schematic of. It would use Zero Elect. The system would be cooled by the water you use in your hom. as you use water to take a shower, flush the toilet, do what ever, there water used flows through the turquoise collored pipe, when the new water flows into this coil it cools down the tank. which also has another coil in it that flows water to your radiator. The only elect needed is the pump to make the water move through your radiator, which you need anyone. It is a must.

ok i dont think you understand what my system is i have 55 gallon pressure holding tank that gets water pumped into it from 240 someode feet well wich is ice cold then i have a line combing off a tap under my house running underground to the rad and every time i use a tap or flush the toilet or run a washing machine it brings in more water. and the water is always flowing so by that ist always cooling the rad off and i would never need a pump. my ideas so simple i just dont understand way you cant see that

ok heres another way of how it works. the pressure in my house acts like a pump and runs the rad, now do you get it its the same thing your telling me to do except the two rads idea you had
my system never sits stagnant i can see it heating up if the water is not flowing but it is
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[olds442]

heres the best way to do it

 

[olds442]

ok tell me how this system works lord

and dont tell me theres a chiller on it becuse theres not i have gone down a looked at them in the store