DubB83
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I would say 68* is the best water temp, anything over that and your asking for algae and pythium (root rot fungus).
Grow 2 lbs. on a 2 x 4 32 Site DIY Aeroponic Unit
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DrGreenFinger
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WOW! So gardenknowm (a member of RIU) didn't grow 200 plants to full maturity in 2 inch net pots? And this is not documented in the video discussed earlier in this thread (you know, the one you obviously didn't watch...FIRST)? Dig that.
I think you mistook the intention of this post. It was to give back and maybe help someone, not to win any type of points, or to prove anything. Definitely not to debate legitimacy of theories/ideas. I am not into posting pics, so if you want proof...WATCH THE VIDEO. If you have an issue with anything in this thread...
I would suggest moving on to the next one in an attempt to save yourself the frustration. Just a thought. 
DrGreenFinger
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68 degrees (F) is supposed to be the best temp for oxygen intake of the roots.
DubB83
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I have seen the video, why don't you prove your version to me... Not Botanicare's.WOW! So gardenknowm (a member of RIU) didn't grow 200 plants to full maturity in 2 inch net pots? And this is not documented in the video discussed earlier in this thread (you know, the one you obviously didn't watch...FIRST)? Dig that.
I think you mistook the intention of this post. It was to give back and maybe help someone, not to win any type of points, or to prove anything. Definitely not to debate legitimacy of theories/ideas. I am not into posting pics, so if you want proof...WATCH THE VIDEO. If you have an issue with anything in this thread...
I'm just saying your spacing is off, Gardengnome's setup had more space between the net pots. I know a plant can be grown to maturity in 2" net pots but it is not optimal. Yes I have seen the video, they use a professional system with more spacing as I have noted.
Apparently I wasted my money building my system then.
Agree to disagree. I may not even be alive before the first harvest, but all I'm saying is that is not optimal.
Just trying to help is all.
Your mature plants will fight for air and light between each other as well as respire on one another causing mold.
If you can't take constructive criticism and idea's for improvement I see no reason to be here.
Unsubscribed....
Inthesmoke
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Is it possible to root my clones in hydroton only? If so would I still stick my cutting throught the whole in the bottom of my net or just in into the middle of the hydroton?
Also it seems like it would be very beneficial to lollipop and sroog at 2 weeks veg and then flower at 3 weeks.
Also it seems like it would be very beneficial to lollipop and sroog at 2 weeks veg and then flower at 3 weeks.
DrGreenFinger
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I didn't mean to offend anyone, but spreading false information is very destructive. The fact is the Aquamist systems 2" sites are spaced CLOSER than this version. That was the science behind the decision. The Aquamist with 4" sites hold 32 pots and the one with 2" sites holds 96. They are extremely close, as witnessed in the video.
If the title of this thread aggravates anyone, I apologize. I can make no guarantees relative to actual yields, as many factors remain to be considered. I know with a 9 week sativa (limited foliage) that these plants can be crowded and flowered quickly (1-2 wks veg.) for an awesome grow. We are talking an almost 2' x 4' growing space. This equals 8 sq. ft of growing space, and if you can get 4 ozs. per sq. ft....VOILA! You can get 32 ozs. from a 2' x 4' area.
One problem that may need to be addressed is the roots being sucked into the pump. From the day the cutting is taken (depending on strain) you will have app. 4 weeks before having to deal with this. Not sure if a pump bag will keep the roots out. Suggestions? Where you at, HOHO?
If the title of this thread aggravates anyone, I apologize. I can make no guarantees relative to actual yields, as many factors remain to be considered. I know with a 9 week sativa (limited foliage) that these plants can be crowded and flowered quickly (1-2 wks veg.) for an awesome grow. We are talking an almost 2' x 4' growing space. This equals 8 sq. ft of growing space, and if you can get 4 ozs. per sq. ft....VOILA! You can get 32 ozs. from a 2' x 4' area.
One problem that may need to be addressed is the roots being sucked into the pump. From the day the cutting is taken (depending on strain) you will have app. 4 weeks before having to deal with this. Not sure if a pump bag will keep the roots out. Suggestions? Where you at, HOHO?
DrGreenFinger
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You can stick the cutting into the hydroton, it does not need to protrude from the bottom. If you consider other methods, some people root by sticking the cutting into a neoprene collar with the bottom of the cutting exposed to the fluids.
Inthesmoke
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To quote Pineapple express...sorry bro'. you are so correct. be careful!...
"Always wear shoes around the house...think saftey...saftey first...then teamwork!' Good Luck
HOHO
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Where you at, HOHO?
i'm here just a little paranoid lately
and i must say i think dub watched a different video than the seemore that i watched cuz they actually not only have more plants stuffed in one of these systems (100 in each system) but three of these in a 4 foot by 6 foot space..300 plants!!! granted they had to pull 100 out cuz of suffocation but still 200 plants in a 4 foot by 6 room with no complications....we are trying to do 96 in that amount of room.well i am actually using 4 of these systems now and risk factors only go down if your only using 1... not that i'm trying to argue with dub i'm just trying to make sure everybody is on the same page in fact i was going to make a different thread in hopes that people will do there best to pick this system apart cuz i would rather have someone call out a possible defect ahead of time rather than lose an unnecessary crop how ever i think it would be hard to pick on this system from the angles that i have looked at it from...
i'm here just a little paranoid lately
and i must say i think dub watched a different video than the seemore that i watched cuz they actually not only have more plants stuffed in one of these systems (100 in each system) but three of these in a 4 foot by 6 foot space..300 plants!!! granted they had to pull 100 out cuz of suffocation but still 200 plants in a 4 foot by 6 room with no complications....we are trying to do 96 in that amount of room.well i am actually using 4 of these systems now and risk factors only go down if your only using 1... not that i'm trying to argue with dub i'm just trying to make sure everybody is on the same page in fact i was going to make a different thread in hopes that people will do there best to pick this system apart cuz i would rather have someone call out a possible defect ahead of time rather than lose an unnecessary crop how ever i think it would be hard to pick on this system from the angles that i have looked at it from...
thedjmc
Active Member
FANTASTIC plan
I actually just watched the Seymore video for about the tenth time two hours ago
i learn more every time, its whacked.
From soil and dwc way back i've been so set on a flow bed lately ...
But i'd really like to do an aero, obviously, the yield cant be beat ... as on the video and everywhere else.
So i went looking for tubs at canadian tire, 2x4 go figure, and i found this exact tub
Not only that when i came on here to check some threads on DYI aeros i found this
I cant see anything going wrong if i put an air stone in, drop the sprayers to 20-26 ish and pump at 300-400
Since i already have air, i can just run a tube for this stone and i'm all set ... i'll also likely add a thermo to heat if i drop under 67, possibly overkill but i know that 67-69 is perfect for the roots so i dont want it under and i dont want it over
There's one more thing
Nutes, flushing, changing/pumping out this reservoir, something i'd have to do weekly with a small res like this, these girls are going to be just devouring nutes with 32 hungry monsters on the go, its going to whack out of balance easy in 5 days.
So i figure 3 of these units with 2 600's will be just fine, i cnat understand why they had 4 600's in the video
The other thing was the distance the light was from the tops ... its like 3-4 feet in the video
Plan is to hang them 16" or so from the tops with a hard fan across the tops and a double fan for under canopy
Beauty, any thoughts on a drain ? I sure dont want to drill into the sides or bottoms of these, they will leak, too much weight. shrug holy krist i must be baked i just typed for 4 minutes non stop.
Wicked job DUb
I actually just watched the Seymore video for about the tenth time two hours ago
i learn more every time, its whacked.
From soil and dwc way back i've been so set on a flow bed lately ...
But i'd really like to do an aero, obviously, the yield cant be beat ... as on the video and everywhere else.
So i went looking for tubs at canadian tire, 2x4 go figure, and i found this exact tub
Not only that when i came on here to check some threads on DYI aeros i found this
I cant see anything going wrong if i put an air stone in, drop the sprayers to 20-26 ish and pump at 300-400
Since i already have air, i can just run a tube for this stone and i'm all set ... i'll also likely add a thermo to heat if i drop under 67, possibly overkill but i know that 67-69 is perfect for the roots so i dont want it under and i dont want it over
There's one more thing
Nutes, flushing, changing/pumping out this reservoir, something i'd have to do weekly with a small res like this, these girls are going to be just devouring nutes with 32 hungry monsters on the go, its going to whack out of balance easy in 5 days.
So i figure 3 of these units with 2 600's will be just fine, i cnat understand why they had 4 600's in the video
The other thing was the distance the light was from the tops ... its like 3-4 feet in the video
Plan is to hang them 16" or so from the tops with a hard fan across the tops and a double fan for under canopy
Beauty, any thoughts on a drain ? I sure dont want to drill into the sides or bottoms of these, they will leak, too much weight. shrug holy krist i must be baked i just typed for 4 minutes non stop.
Wicked job DUb
DrGreenFinger
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I was with you for a minute, Dude.
DrGreenFinger
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I see you, BIG Tymer! Have you hade any problem with roots being sucked into the EcoPlus pump? You know, eventually the roots will be right there at the opening to the filter and inlet.
Does anyone have experience/opinions about this?
HOHO
New Member
i did a res change yesterday and didn't have any roots in the filter and will be keeping a close eye on it.. i am hoping someone will tell us a way to deal with it..
Inthesmoke
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So I have heard you can run these systems continuous and on a 1-2 min on - 4-5 min off cycle? Has anyone heard of or used the on/off cycle to allow the roots to dry out and get more oxygen?
GreenphoeniX
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Nice man!
Below is a link to my Aero grow if anyone wants to tune it ... It's only 4 sites tho ... 32 sites must get damn crowded! lol
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/167131-greenx-aero-trials-grow-1-a.html
I'm not aiming for 2 pounds at all, but damn that would be nice! haha
Cheers!
Below is a link to my Aero grow if anyone wants to tune it ... It's only 4 sites tho ... 32 sites must get damn crowded! lol
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/167131-greenx-aero-trials-grow-1-a.html
I'm not aiming for 2 pounds at all, but damn that would be nice! haha
Cheers!
DrGreenFinger
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I'm not sure you want these on a timer, but I am not postitive. My local grow shop (over 25 yrs. old) runs their aero units 24. Once the roots make it to the fluid levels in the res, they will need the water oxygenated. I don't know how that would be affected with a pump cycle since the pump will be doing all of the aerating (unless you add an airstone).
DrGreenFinger
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Dig that! nice grow, bro. did you ever check out the higrozyme? i think that poster was referring to the pic on the left where the roots weren't perfectly snow white. i had that same issue before and wondered if you investigated the higrozyme, and what your conclusion was.
HOHO
New Member
i've had mine on a 15 minute on 15 minute off schedule. and they love the extra air, also have airstones
GreenphoeniX
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Na haven't been into the hydro shop yet ... But will when I stop in this weekend ... i know I can't get that product, but I'll ask about something similar that's available in this country so I don't have to import it.
The plant without perfectly white roots isn't sick or anything, I think it's just a little staining from the Earth Juice supplements, but I'll keep an eye on it anyway!
I'd rather invest in a rez chiller rather than higrozyme, but a chiller I'd have to import and cost like $300 USD ... which is about $600 where I am, so not cheap, although it could be worth it if I upgrade to a bigger setup, cold water holds more air and allows roots to uptake more nutrietns at a faster rate. 15C (59F) is the temp I'd ideally aim for... If I became willing to dish out for a chiller! lol
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
I will start watching this thread.. you are a hard worker and an innovator...
Thanks for dropping me a note
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