Stop the madness!! Get Bonicare Grow, and Bonicare Bloom. Use areoponics and you will never ever go back and it won't cost you an arm and a leg. So simple and I know that there is not a single grow on here, and i have looked at them all that beat what I have gotten from my babies in my new areoponic tubs and even in the three almost ready to harvest soil ones I have now. The three soil are going to give around 6 to 7 solid OZ' and that aint bad for three never done it before pots..The new plants are over 8 inches in 12 days and have more green tight together nodes than you could ever hope for.... DON"T listen to all the expensive 20 or more nute products that people say you need! you don't. I don't need anymore help from this site and it was all limited anyway and if you go with advanced nutes and spend 500 to 1K on them I would love to show you how much money you could have saved. I have nothing to gain by saying this it is just the truth. GL and Good bye to all you heads. To bad there is so much bad info on this site. KEEP IT SIMPLE! THEY ARE WEEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!