british cannabis law reclassification in 2008 - 2009

cheddarchops

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basically this happened a while ago and had followed most of the articles leading up to the reclassification to class B..... many articles stated that cannabis had increased potency by 10, 20 and even 30 percent! what a load of shit..... anyways heres the extract:

"The government today defied the advice of drug experts and upgraded cannabis from class C to class B.
The home secretary, Jacqui Smith, announced a new system of escalating penalties for adults caught in possession of small amounts of the drug from early next year.
Tougher sanctions will replace the current system of police warnings, and officers will be able to arrest first-time offenders.
Smith justified her decision by highlighting the strength of "skunk" strains of herbal cannabis now widely available.
Last week, Gordon Brown warned of the "more lethal quality" of much of the cannabis now available, described it as a gateway drug, and said that the reclassification was needed to "send a message to young people that it was unacceptable".

The home secretary told the Commons today: "Reclassification reflects the fact that skunk, a much stronger type of the drug, now dominates the cannabis market."
She said it accounted for 81% of cannabis available on the streets compared to just 30% in 2002.

The average age of first use is 13 years old and young people may binge on skunk in the same way as alcohol, trying to achieve the maximum effect, Smith told MPs, saying that the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs had found that the consequences of this binge smoking "may be serious to their [users'] mental health".

Smith said that the reclassification would mean "more robust" enforcement of laws banning the supply and possession of cannabis and a new approach to tackling cannabis farms and the organised criminals behind them.

She also announced that she would work with the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) to find ways of using existing laws to curtail the trade in cannabis paraphernalia such as pipes.

Smith's decision to upgrade the drug went against the recommendations of the government's scientific experts, the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, which was asked by Smith to take its third look at cannabis classification in recent years.

The council's advice, published today, was that cannabis should remain class C.
The ACMD chair, Professor Sir Michael Rawlins, refused to criticise the home secretary, saying that the ACMD's recommendations were based entirely on harmfulness - but that the government had the right to consider other factors.
He said: "We don't take into account 'the message', we don't take into account policing priorities; we are obliged by law only to take into account the harmfulness.
"The government may want to take into account other matters. That's their right; they are the government. We are only an advisory committee and from time to time governments, for their own reasons, may wish to ignore the advice."

He insisted that the recommendation on classification, ignored by the home secretary, was the least important of the 21 in the report.
"The most important ones are the ones related to public health. The thing I take great comfort from is that all the other recommendations are fully accepted and they are the ones that I think will make a difference."

He said he would be surprised if there were any resignations from the council, and advised members to "tough it out".
His council heard evidence that the potency of homegrown herbal cannabis tended to be two and a half times that of imported resin. But they said users now often moderated their intake.

They were also told that the incidence of new schizophrenia cases reported to GPs had gone down, not up, between 1998 and 2005, indicating a weak link between increased potency and use in the past two decades and mental health problems.
Since cannabis was downgraded in 2004 the proportion of young people using it has fallen each year from 25.3% in 2003-04 to 20.9% now. Among those aged 16 to 59, the proportion over the same period has fallen from 10.8% to 8.2%, according to the British Crime Survey.

The shadow home secretary, David Davis, said that he supported the decision to upgrade the drug but he criticised Labour's indecision over its classification.
He said: "The government's lax approach to drugs is the hallmark of our broken society under Labour."
"This long-awaited U-turn has followed delay, dithering and indecision when the country cries out for leadership," he added.
Davis accused the prime minister of wasting a year by announcing his policy intentions and then handing it to an advisory committee which he finally ignored.

Chris Huhne, the Liberal Democrats' home affairs spokesman, said: "The crackdown on skunk farms makes sense, but it is crazy to ignore the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs by raising the maximum prison sentence for cannabis possession to five years.

"Cannabis use is falling, as is the incidence of psychosis. We need public
education, not public flagellation."
Campaigners for drug law reform, who questioned the relevance of the drug classification system, which dates back to 1971, showed little surprise at today's announcement.

Ben Lynam of the UK Drug Policy Commission, an independent group, said that he was concerned that the home secretary had chosen to ignore the recommendations of a commission she had instigated.
"We are very concerned about how political this debate has become. The drug classification system is a very poor vehicle for communicating the risk of drug use to potential users.

"It needs to be taken out of the political arena by using an independent body like the ACMD but that is listened to and gives recommendations based on scientific evidence rather than political expediency."
Danny Kushlick of Transform, another drug law reform lobby group, said: "This argument over drug classification is distracting attention away from where the real and substantive debate on whether drugs should be illegal or regulated."
 

9inch bigbud

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its all bull shit and will make Labour less popular than they already are when its comes to voting day the cannabis smokers are going to vote someone else or not vote at all. just like kelloggs made the misstake of sacking phelps they droped from 8th best company to 89th and posts on sites such as you tube where people are going to boycot kellogs and not by any of the brands got them worrying and reinstated as the face of the box again. the powers that be need to take notice or they will not be in power much longer!

4M people are said to smole weed i say more everywhere i look i see people smoking it thats a lot of votes the have just lost.
 

9inch bigbud

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So what can you guys in the UK do about this? Do you have any recourse? I don't know how your system of laws works.
The best that the u.k can hope for is that the USA legalize it 1st then like a good little puppy dog the UK willl follow. The best chance of weed being legal is the Lib dems or the green party get in to power, but thats not going to happen because the green party want to try and ban cars off the road and more ppl drive than smoke weed 8-(
 

misshestermoffitt

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They will never get cars banned. It's just not possible. I have to travel 30 miles just to get to public tranportation. There's no way they can ban cars everywhere.
 

9inch bigbud

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They will never get cars banned. It's just not possible. I have to travel 30 miles just to get to public tranportation. There's no way they can ban cars everywhere.
what i mean is they will tax most people off the road they will put the price of gas up so high and the road tax that most people will not beable to afford to run them the tree hugging MF's They want everyone to use public transport and will spend £££££££££££'s on upgrading trains and busses and they intend to do this by putting the price of gas up and tax on cars and using that money to close roads and only leave them for busses to use. the green bus lanes will bypass all the traffic so ppl get there sooner than if they use a car.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
But there is no public transport where I am. I have to travel 30 miles to get to a place with public transport. Since I had to drive to get there, there is no reason to use it, just keep driving instead.
 

9inch bigbud

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But there is no public transport where I am. I have to travel 30 miles to get to a place with public transport. Since I had to drive to get there, there is no reason to use it, just keep driving instead.
thank yor self lucky you live where you do. gas prices here are over $10 a gallon back 6 months the price was almost $15 if the greens get in it will be more like $20 and then you will have to pay $3 for every mile you drive on the freeway on top of the gas prices! and to drive in to places like towns and citys you will be charged $10 the $10 charge for city driving is allready here, so that will go up even more if the greens get it in.
 

parttimer

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So what can you guys in the UK do about this? Do you have any recourse? I don't know how your system of laws works.
There is nothing we can do, we just ignore the goverment and carry on with what were doing. We have been turned into a nanny state now. I vote but i vote for a party to run my country not my life. They spend so much time trying to stop us smoking, stop us drinking, stop us driving, stop us eating foods they dont want us to eat, etc etc etc. They dont seem to give a damn about anything that they should be paying attention to.
Come the next election im just going to waste my vote on a fringe party because the mainstream dont have a clue what real people really want.
 

cheddarchops

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to be honest man i think the USA is more unlikely to legalise it than britain......i mean its class A over there! but then again obamas views on medical marijuana is that it should be down to doctors to decide what will benefit the patients the most.....so i think in some time your cannabis laws might change....but i dont reckon he puts it too high on his agenda because of all the surrounding controversy about him smoking when he was younger and would "frequently inhale... thats the point"".....hahaha i love the bit on the end that he said but yeah legalisation is looking pretty far on the horizon but with people like ron paul, barry cooper, marc emery and other activitists i think theres a lot more chance the law would change than a decade ago
 

SketzoH

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I wish they would at least allow medicinal users the rights to grow and smoke over here..
I have ADHD and ritalin does nothing to me but makes me crazy.. Weed on the other hand chills me the hell out and lets me lead a normal life..

bloody labour party :cuss:
 
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