Chilli,chilli & more chillis..... GROW JOURNEL!!!!

eza82

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not bad
now im going stock up on soil and stuff on thur
then to set up indoor chilli factory
do they flower on 12 or just grow into it
more reading for me ill see you tomoz

:clap::clap::clap:
ILL GET YOU RECIPE FOR COMPOST PILE.... ASWELL !
THE FIRST CHILLI PARTNER... WE SHOULD CELEBRATE ! LOL BEER AFTER WORK TOMORROW DEDICATED TO THE THOUGHT OF A CHILLI SEED BANK COMPANY !!
WE WANT A FEW PEOPLE FOR THIS !!..... ENOUGH TO GROW ALL VARITIES....LOL AT LEAST A GOOD Handfull!
Maybey another 2 or 3 would make good start !
All got to be pretty serious...... and stick to similar propergation/feed/ etc etc........ you will have to get a old cupboard off side of road or build one for drying !we will go into that later !

do you know anythingabout building WEB SITES and forums ??
 

eza82

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compost for chilli or flowering plants:blsmoke: ( this was developed for my ladies !!)

I use a basic mushroom compost; wheat straw, horse & chicken manure and gypsum (calcium sulfate) with hydrated lime, pot ash. organic soil, wormcastings, mixed with coco fiber...(gypsum if needed). ill go into NPK values later..
There are a variety of optional ingredients that may be added. A brief outline of some materials used in making composts follows:
Straw:
serves as a carbon source (carbohydrate) source wheat - considered the best - contains xylan oat, barley - break down more rapidly than wheat rye - breaks down slower than wheat also corn cobs, oak and beech leaves, etc.
Other Carbohydrate Sources:
Rice straw, molasses, brewer's grains, cottonseed meal (provides the fatty acid - linoleic acid -which is reported to stimulate yields.)
Manures:
nitrogen source, provides organisms essential to composting horse - most commonly used, fresher the better poultry - higher in nitrogen and phosphorous than horse, not so rich in potash (provided in wheat straw), faster and hotter than horse, use dry pig and sheep - must be used before they become sticky - used partly dry
Other Nitrogen Sources:
Blood meal (dried blood), bone meal urea, ammonium sulfate ((NH4)2SO4) Gypsum: calcium sulfate (CaSO4) - helps to prevent the loss of nitrogen (from the breakdown of proteins during the act of composting) by chelating the ammonia
Optional Mineral Sources:
Superphosphate; is said to promote vigorous flowering growth, but an excess may make the beds too acid too soon which depreciate the crop. It should not be used if there are a lot of droppings that r fresh) in the compost.
potash; used in synthetic composts.
Activators; compost "activators" can be obtained from nursery and garden stores and assures the presence of the organism essential to composting.
The following recipes create about one ton of compost. One half ton of compost will provide enough compost for about 120 square feet of beds (surface area).
Sample MY Compost Recipes:
I do this in winter every year then additives are introduced to pile year ROUND.


3 bales wheat straw,
2 bunnings bails of sugar cane
half a ute (half ton) horse manure,
1/2 tonne mushroom compost (used )
20kg gypsum & hydrated lime,
4o kg. activator,
1/5tonne. chicken manure,
100KG. Blood & bone meal
500grms of trace elements from yates !
(this is a huge pile !!!!! you may not need this just down size everything !~)

This is what I do to prep!
To prepare compost, the straw must be soaked for several days until it just about, but not quite, squeezes water out in your hands. The compost pile is then built by stacking alternating layers of straw, activator, manure and gypsum until all the materials are used up. The stack should be 4-6 feet high.
In about 48 hours the heap will begin to generate heat and will sink somewhat in height. By the fourth to sixth day the temperature in the interior of the pile should reach (160°F) 71°C. Temperatures of up to 71°C are due to thermophilic organisms. Temperatures over 77°C are due to chemical bonds being broken as well as other chemical reactions. Temperatures over 71°C are undesirable.
 

eza82

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this is what you have to carefully consider !!!!!
Growing chillis is one thing BREEDING CHILLI is ANOTHER !!! all we will look to do is NOT CROSS our strains !!!!
Cross a chilli plant (Hybridisation):fire:
A chile seed (like any other seed) is the mature ovule of a plant. It contains all the genetic material, and stored energy, to grow into a plant (potentially) displaying the same traits as its parent. However, hybridisation (cross-pollination between chile varieties), introduces new and different genetic material and the effects of this hybridisation can be seen in the next, and future, generations. Seeds identified, and sold, as `F1` hybrids identify first generation hybrids. Avoid saving seeds from these plants since the only predictable characteristic of the second generation is that - you cant predict it!

Almost all known species of chile plants will self-pollinating.
However, with the aid of insects and human intervention, they are also very promiscuous - readily cross pollinating with other species of chile. This cross pollination may result in viable seed. Cross pollination within the same species is almost certain to result in viable, and very vigorous, hybrids. (human intervention- brush technique grab a toothpick and just rub on all flowers of one and then a few flowers of the other .... repeat everyday for a week or two)

The following chart identifies the general rule for outcome of cross pollination between the species of the domesticated chile: -

Male/female _C. Annuum_ C. Baccatum_ C. Chinense_ C. Frutescens_ C.Pubescens
C. Annuum -- -Prolific -----Sporadic ----Prolific -------Sporadic --------Not At All
C. Baccatum - Sporadic ---Prolific ----- Sporadic -----Sporadic --------Not At All
C. Chinense -- Prolific -----Sporadic ----Prolific -------Sporadic --------Not At All
C. Frutescens -Sporadic --Sporadic -----Sporadic -----Prolific ----------Not At All
C.Pubescens --Not At All -- Not At All ---Not At All -- -Not At All ----- -Prolific





The most common Capsicum species, Annuum crosses prolifically with Chinense, sporadically with Baccatum and Frutescens but will not cross with Pubescens. Capsicum Pubescens will not generally cross with any other species, so in theory all seeds produced by a Pubescens species in a mixed garden will be 'true' and viable.

If you are planning to save seeds from a chile plant, and wish to it to have the same features as the parent, then you need to ensure: -

- That the donor plant is not itself a hybrid, - That the plant is isolated (specifically the flowers) to prevent wind-borne, or insect-borne, cross pollination.

This is especially important for commercial purposes, where you have the ability to offend all your customers! Not only does uncontrolled hybridization produce unpreditcable characteristics in future generations - it may also produce sterile hybrids, and/or non-viable seeds.
 

SketzoH

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looks like your serious bout this!
Think im going to have a go at some jalepeno's or tabasco chillies outdoors if this years weather permits me to do so :wall:

If you need an online store pm me i can help you :-P
 

eza82

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looks like your serious bout this!
Think im going to have a go at some jalepeno's or tabasco chillies outdoors if this years weather permits me to do so :wall:

If you need an online store pm me i can help you :-P
yer I figured I would give it a real go..... i already have young JIMMY as counterpart to the cause.....

yes I need help on web build and forum build...... is it easy ??
 

SketzoH

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yer I figured I would give it a real go..... i already have young JIMMY as counterpart to the cause.....

yes I need help on web build and forum build...... is it easy ??
easy if you know how lol.. how much experience do you have with computers and web/graphics design?
 

eza82

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Sfa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i need all the info or program suggestions... im coputer savy just have not done web !
 

SketzoH

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Sfa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i need all the info or program suggestions... im coputer savy just have not done web !
hence why i asked :).. Can be a long process if you don't have much experience. :sad:

osCommerce - i found this pretty easy to use and is open source software. Lots of guides online too

I have some spare server space and can always help you set it up on there aswell if needed :-P
 

eza82

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Sounds like you need to be part of this.......... You have server space meaning YOU will host my chilli seed bank and forum ??
 

eza82

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I have just started a degree(horticulture), work, and renovating house, i really dont have time to learn !!!

I need 2 web sites
-chilli business/seed bank/forum
&&
- visa business.... migration agency
 

SketzoH

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I have just started a degree(horticulture), work, and renovating house, i really dont have time to learn !!!

I need 2 web sites
-chilli business/seed bank/forum
&&
- visa business.... migration agency
I can do the chilli one for you if you dont have time..:clap:

Pm me with more info etc if your interested :-P
 

eza82

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This was a good idea to put up on my beloved riu..... And my fellow riu brothers i thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (FREE CHILLI SEEDS...IF YOU WANT ! HAVE GOAT HORN AND NUMEX STRAINS AS SHOWN IN PICTURE ....SETUP A POBOX IF YOU WANT REGULAR SEEDS (JIMMY)... ))
 

eza82

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What is the world’s biggest chilli?
Big Jim, a chilli hailing from New Mexico, is in the Guinness Book of
Records as producing the biggest chilli pods, frequently producing chillies
over a foot in length – quite impressive for a plant that grows no more than 2 foot tall!
WHATS THE WORLDS BIGGEST CHILLI TREE??
Rocoto Red Chilli (tree chilli)-- there is few but this is my favourite !
(pubescens)Has black seeds, big fat pods, thick fleshy walls, and a different type of heat to the usual chilli (though it is hot!). Much more cold tolerant than other chillis

C.Baccatum varities are often regarded as the BIGGER CHILLI PLANTS !!!
 

eza82

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LOL I didnt know this !!! - EVEN BETTER !
 

eza82

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had to put this up ! - i did say no more tech posts....sorry !
http://www.thechileman.org/guide_species.php

:fire:WILD SPECIES OF CHILLI:fire:
The twenty three wild species lack extensive study on their biology and seeds are much harder to come by as they are often subject to restricted seed distribution. An interesting generalisation is that most of the wild Chile species have small fruits, which are eaten with ease by birds; the natural dispersal agent for Capsicum species. The 23 widely recognised wild species are:


Buforum

A wild Chile species native to Brazil.


Campylopodium

A wild Chile species native to Southern Brazil


Cardenasii

A tubular purple flowering wild species native to La Paz, Bolivia. Genetically it is part of taxa including Capsicum pubescens and is more commonly known as 'Ulupica'.


Chacoense

A small white flowering wild species native to Argentina, Bolivia and Paraguay. It is known locally as 'Tova' in Paraguay. The Plant has an erect growing habit and is approximately 80 cm tall. The erect pods are elongated, triangular, 2.5 cm long, 0.5 cm wide and mature from green to red. Very scarce.


Coccineum

A white flowering wild Chile species native to Bolivia and Peru.


Cornutum

A wild Chile species native to Southern Brazil.


Dimorphum

A wild Chile species native to Colombia.


Dusenii

A wild Chile species native to south-east Brazil.


Exile

A white flowering wild species not commercially grown, although several Chile enthusiasts have successfully grown the cultivar 'Cobincho'. This plant is very unlike most other capsicums. Plants can grow to over 130 cm tall with small, smooth leaves.


Eximium

A purple flowering wild species native to Bolivia and northern Argentina. Said to be a wild relative of the Rocoto. Genetically part of taxa including Capsicum pubescens and said to grow like a small tree.


Galapaqoense

A white flowering wild species native to the Galapagos Islands of Isabela and Santa Cruz. Also found in Ecuador. The pods of this plant are very hot and grow to 0.25 inches long, maturing from dark green to red.


Geminifolium

A wild Chile species native to Colombia and Ecuador.


Hookerianum

A wild Chile species native to Ecuador.


Lanceolatum

A wild Chile species native to Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico.


Leptopodum

A wild Chile species native to Brazil.


Minutiflorum

A wild Chile species native to Argentina, Bolivia and Paraguay.


Mirabile

A wild Chile species native to southern Brazil.


Parvifolium

A wild Chile species native to north-east Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela.


Praetermissum

Sold commercially in parts of Brazil and also known as Capsicum baccatum var. praetermissum. This variety can grow up to six feet tall in a single growing season and has hundreds of cranberry sized fruit that ripen to red. The flowers are totally flat when fully opened, are purple edged with a white inner band and have a greenish yellow centre. The ripe fruits are said to be very seedy.


Schottianum

A wild Chile species native to Argentina, south Brazil and south-east Paraguay. These 80-100 cm tall erect plants have many branches which grown in a zig zag pattern. The flowers are white with yellow-green spots at the base of the petals. Fruits are pendulous and reddish-orange at maturity.


Scolnikianum

A wild Chile species native to Peru.


Tovarii

A purple flower wild species native to the Rio Mantaro basin in south-central Peru. Genetically part of taxa including Capsicum pubescens.


Villosum

A wild Chile species native to southern Brazil.

:fire:DOMESTICATED CHILLI :fire:
The five domesticated species Annuum, Baccatum, Chinense, Frutescens and Pubescens are the most commonly available species to the Chile enthusiast and each species has its own distinguishing characteristics.


Capsicum Annuum (ANN-you-um)

Annuum meaning 'annual' is actually an incorrect designation given that Chiles are perennials under suitable growing conditions. This species is the most common and extensively cultivated of the five domesticated species and includes the Ancho, Bell Pepper, Cayenne, Cherry, Cuban, De Arbol, Jalapeno, Mirasol, Ornamental, New Mexican, Paprika, Pimiento, Pequin, Serrano, Squash and Wax pod types.

Annuum's used to be dividend into two categories, sweet (or mild) peppers and hot Chile peppers. However, modern plant breeding has removed that distinction as hot bell varieties and sweet Jalapenos have now been bred.


Capsicum Chinense (chi-NEN-see)

Chinense meaning 'from China' is also a misnomer as this species originated in the Amazon Basin and is now common throughout the Caribbean, Central and South America and in the tropics.

This species includes many of the world's hottest cultivars including the Habanero, Scotch Bonnet and the legendary Red Savina. The pod types, as well as the plants are very varied in this species although they are characterised by a distinctive fruity aroma often described as apricot like.

The Chinense being a tropical species tend to do best in areas of high humidity. They are relatively slower growers, having longer growing seasons than many of the other species and seeds can take a long time to germinate.


Capsicum Baccatum (bah-COT-tum or bah-KAY-tum)

Baccatum meaning 'berry-like' consists of the South American cultivars known as Aji's. They are almost as many baccatum cultivars as annuums with pods ranging from non-pungent to very hot.

The baccatum species is generally distinguished from the other species by the yellow or tan spots on the corollas (on the flowers) and by the yellow anthers. Many of the baccatum species are tall growing, often reaching 5 feet in height and pods are usually erect and become pendant as they mature.


Capsicum Frutescens (fru-TES-enz)

Frutescens meaning 'shrubby' or 'bushy' is not widely cultivated with the exception of the Tabasco, which has been used in the manufacture of the world famous sauce since 1848. Another famous variety is the Malagueta, which grows in the amazon basin in Brazil where the species probably originated.

Frutescens plants have a compact habit, have many stems and grow between 1 and 4 feet high depending upon local conditions. The flowers have greenish white corollas with no spots and purple anthers. Pod types are less varied than the other species (with the exception of Pubescens) are often small, pointy and grow erect on the plants. This species is particularly good for container gardening and a single plant can produce 100 or more pods.


Capsicum Pubescens (pew-BES-enz)

Pubescens meaning 'hairy' is probably the least common on the five domesticated species and is the only domesticated Capsicum species with no wild form. However two wild species 'Cardenasii' and 'Eximium' are believed to be closely related. Pubescens has a compact to erect habit (sometimes sprawling and vine like) and can grow up to 8 feet tall, although 2 feet is more usual. The flowers have purple corollas, purple and white anthers and stand erect from the leaves. The pods are normally pear or apple shaped.

One interesting point to note is that the species is 'isolated' from the other domesticated species as it cannot cross pollinate with them. Another distinguishing feature of the species is the black seeds of the fruits. Varieties include the Peruvian 'Rocoto' and the Mexican 'Manzano'. Probably the most difficult of the five domesticated species to grow.
 

eza82

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HELP- HELP - HELP

PROBLEM; cross polination....
UNDERSTANDING; i need to sperate my chilli plants that will cross pollinate through insect and wind bourne pollen. Some varities will be fine.... some are not....
GROW AREA; 3.5MX2MX2M GREENHOUSE WITH OUTDOOR HYDRO, AND ABOUT 20SQUARE METERS OUT SIDE... IT IS THE OUTDOOR FACILITY THAT I NEED TO SPLIT UP ?? THINKING LIKE INDIVIDUAL GREENHOUSE TYPE STRUCTURES...SIMPLE A FRAME WITH GREENHOUSE PLASTIC??

SUGGESTIONS??????
 

eza82

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THIS GUY IS A NUT !!!!
- IM GOING TO GET A SAUCE TO HIM WHEN i MAKE ONE ! HE DOSE HEAPS OF CHILLI REVIEWS (AUSSIE)
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eza82

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help- help - help

problem; cross polination....
understanding; i need to sperate my chilli plants that will cross pollinate through insect and wind bourne pollen. Some varities will be fine.... Some are not....
grow area; 3.5mx2mx2m greenhouse with outdoor hydro, and about 20square meters out side... It is the outdoor facility that i need to split up ?? Thinking like individual greenhouse type structures...simple "A" frame with greenhouse plastic??

suggestions??????
bump.............
 
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