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TURBS

TURBS

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Just a suggestion for anyone interested in getting more oxygen into their water. Rig an upside down plate or something fairly flat over your airstone. This will help slow down the trip a bubble takes to get to the top. Also smaller bubbles are far superior to larger ones, due to the greater surface area of the small bubbles. Look for a really high end airstone, the types that are used in marine aquarium protein skimmer applications. You could even rig up something out of plastic sheets to make the bubbles Zig Zag their way up. Just a brain fart for ya.
 
Hash Lover

Hash Lover

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The bubbles would join together and you would lose the surface area. The diffuser can make all the difference in how much usable oxogen stay's in the water. I've seen some really high priced stones that I'd like to try. Maybe add some more oxygen to the water as a gas? Not the safest thing though, very explosive. It would have to be mixed with something to be at a safe level.
 
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regal8r

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Hash Lover said:
The bubbles would join together and you would lose the surface area. The diffuser can make all the difference in how much usable oxogen stay's in the water. I've seen some really high priced stones that I'd like to try. Maybe add some more oxygen to the water as a gas? Not the safest thing though, very explosive. It would have to be mixed with something to be at a safe level.
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oxygen by itself is not flammable. in welding, its used bc it makes the gas that is being burned hotter bc of all the oxygen
 
nasd90

nasd90

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You guys rock and read my mind. REP to you all.

I've been battling with 3 tubs, and 6 'ok' airstones, but I want it like a hot tub. And I've broken 2 airstones already with careful use too.

I agree with Hash Lover about the bubbles joining together.

I'd like to ask one question if I could...

Do you have any more information on 'marine aquarium protein skimmer application' type air pumps or where I could find one ?

And I'm almost thinking that there has to be an easier solution. Maybe something in the workshop... LOL... Gotta chew on this for a while.

SUBSCRIBED. Peace.
 
TURBS

TURBS

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Ya I suppose a flat plate would be best. I had a Co2 injector for an aqurium that had a zig zag type rig the bubble would almost disappear by the time it reached the top of the ladder. As far as where to get good airstones would be any petstore that sells marine accesories. These airstones will likely glog a little quicker due to the smaller poor size, but what the heck ,I 'm sure they are not too much. You can even Google "Cork Airstones" see what you come up with. I have no Idea if cork would be appropriate to put in a rez or not , it's just an option.
 
Hash Lover

Hash Lover

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The finest bubble diffusers I've used are limewood that I got online. I got some vinyl air tubing from New England Hydroponics, Just got it and have not tried it yet but will today. I have been on a quest for the perfect diffuser/ airpump combo to give me the most dissolved oxygen in my water. I would love to get a meter for it but they are expensive, some day. I think the best ones I've got are from this place: http://www.aquaticeco.com/. Lots of good stuff there, I have 1 of these and plan to get more.http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategories/3533/Sweetwater-Air-Diffusers. I think it is the best one I have. I have it in a 10 gal/6 gal mix and it just rolls the water. It is hooked to a 20-60 gal pump I got at walmart. It's a duel outlet pump that I put a "T" on it to go into 1 line and then to the stone.
 
Hash Lover

Hash Lover

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regal8r said:
oxygen by itself is not flammable. in welding, its used bc it makes the gas that is being burned hotter bc of all the oxygen
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Your right, but the ability it has to make things burn hotter to me is kinda the same. Here's something I found on it:
Emergency Overview: Oxygen gas is colorless, odorless, non-toxic cryogenic liquid or colorless, odorless, oxidizing gas. Liquid releases will quickly vaporize to gas. The chief physical hazard associated with releases of the gas is its oxidizing power which can greatly accelerate the burning rate for both common and exotic combustible materials. Emergency personnel must practice extreme caution when approaching oxygen releases because of the potential for intense fire.
The primary health hazard at atmospheric pressure is respiratory system irritation after exposure to high oxygen concentrations. Maintain oxygen levels in air above 19.5% and below 23.5%. While up to 50% oxygen can be breathed for more than 24 hours without adverse effects, high concentrations in open air accelerate combustion and increase the risk of fire and explosion of combustible or flammable materials.
 
TURBS

TURBS

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Hash Lover said:
Your right, but the ability it has to make things burn hotter to me is kinda the same. Here's something I found on it:
Emergency Overview: Oxygen gas is colorless, odorless, non-toxic cryogenic liquid or colorless, odorless, oxidizing gas. Liquid releases will quickly vaporize to gas. The chief physical hazard associated with releases of the gas is its oxidizing power which can greatly accelerate the burning rate for both common and exotic combustible materials. Emergency personnel must practice extreme caution when approaching oxygen releases because of the potential for intense fire.
The primary health hazard at atmospheric pressure is respiratory system irritation after exposure to high oxygen concentrations. Maintain oxygen levels in air above 19.5% and below 23.5%. While up to 50% oxygen can be breathed for more than 24 hours without adverse effects, high concentrations in open air accelerate combustion and increase the risk of fire and explosion of combustible or flammable materials.
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Ya I would not recommend Compressed Oxygen to anyone on here. It would just be a matter of time before somebody gets hurt. I have seen lots of "ghetto" projects on here. lol. If you do use it, keep it to yourself. There are lot's of people with the skill for something like that, there are even more noobs that may take things out of context or skip safety precautions etc.
 
dynamitejack

dynamitejack

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Hash Lover said:
Your right, but the ability it has to make things burn hotter to me is kinda the same. Here's something I found on it:
Emergency Overview: Oxygen gas is colorless, odorless, non-toxic cryogenic liquid or colorless, odorless, oxidizing gas. Liquid releases will quickly vaporize to gas. The chief physical hazard associated with releases of the gas is its oxidizing power which can greatly accelerate the burning rate for both common and exotic combustible materials. Emergency personnel must practice extreme caution when approaching oxygen releases because of the potential for intense fire.
The primary health hazard at atmospheric pressure is respiratory system irritation after exposure to high oxygen concentrations. Maintain oxygen levels in air above 19.5% and below 23.5%. While up to 50% oxygen can be breathed for more than 24 hours without adverse effects, high concentrations in open air accelerate combustion and increase the risk of fire and explosion of combustible or flammable materials.
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How much pure oxygen could an airstone possibley create?
Not nearly enough be worried about your health.
 
Gb0ost

Gb0ost

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I get the airstones they sell at the hydro store. Much smaller bubbles than anything I've ever used in one of my salt water fish tanks
 
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