Baz's 600w HPS Suparoom - AK47 Grow Journal

[Baz]

Yup shame about the clones... i got 1 that is a definate taker but the other 10 halted leaf growth and are still alive but some wiered growth happening maybe they gone hermie i dunno

 

[raiderman]

Yup shame about the clones... i got 1 that is a definate taker but the other 10 halted leaf growth and are still alive but some wiered growth happening maybe they gone hermie i dunno

have you got a camera to pic and see?

 

[Baz]

Yea, they are all definatley rooted as i have pulled a few that looked dead, first pic is the def taker and 3rd is one where you can see the strange growth on top..

 

[raiderman]

Yea, they are all definatley rooted as i have pulled a few that looked dead, first pic is the def taker and 3rd is one where you can see the strange growth on top..

let the container dry out more before you water nex, thats wy thier yellow.that could be a hermie cant tell, not clear enuff

 

[Baz]

Im thinking of chucking em all out, they are getting yellower by the day, and instead of new nodes sprouting, its like some strange lumpy growth building up on top of each other, i must of naffed em up, as the one taker looks good and it was getting the same water amounts, at least i got 1 taker eh

 

[raiderman]

Im thinking of chucking em all out, they are getting yellower by the day, and instead of new nodes sprouting, its like some strange lumpy growth building up on top of each other, i must of naffed em up, as the one taker looks good and it was getting the same water amounts, at least i got 1 taker eh

are humidities real high where you live?

 

[Baz]

are humidities real high where you live?

No not really, i had them in some humidity domes, think i may of took them out too early + theres some stupid pipes in my room that heat up 3 times a day, prob down to them

 

[tusseltussel]

whats goin on there baz... dnt give up, how close is your light.... you got 1000w now right, back off a little and be sure your watering correctly feed correctly maybe start some new seeds too in case they dnt bounce back have you been checking ph of your soil, have you been overfeeding to make up for a ph problem?????

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

alreet baz man! shame bout ya clones man but dont give up the fight just yet! they may be yellowing but there's still new growth shooting out the top and they're rooted, ease back on watering and theyll probably level out man. you wont get any yellow leaves to turnb back to green but new growth should carry them through! good luck man i wouldnt say their done for yet!

 

[Baz]

whats goin on there baz... dnt give up, how close is your light.... you got 1000w now right, back off a little and be sure your watering correctly feed correctly maybe start some new seeds too in case they dnt bounce back have you been checking ph of your soil, have you been overfeeding to make up for a ph problem?????

No they are under one of those CFL hoods, how often should i be watering em? i have not checked the PH of the soil runoff, i'll check soon tho & i only just started feeding them the other day

 

[Baz]

alreet baz man! shame bout ya clones man but dont give up the fight just yet! they may be yellowing but there's still new growth shooting out the top and they're rooted, ease back on watering and theyll probably level out man. you wont get any yellow leaves to turnb back to green but new growth should carry them through! good luck man i wouldnt say their done for yet!

Hi don, yea i know what your saying but the new growth is strange im gonna see if i can get my good camera to take a clear pic, im just gonna leave em n see what happens

 

[tusseltussel]

No they are under one of those CFL hoods, how often should i be watering em? i have not checked the PH of the soil runoff, i'll check soon tho & i only just started feeding them the other day

runoff is not the best way to ph soil but if you run 6.0 through and it comes out 6.5 or more your probably too high i don't remember the exact numbers sumone posted about it like a year ago sumthin like for every .5 higher the runoff is add 1 to the starting ph and thats close to what the soil is... you should only be watering when they need it, their is no set schedual that is right usually either go be weight of the pot or poke your finger in up to the second knuckle and if you feel moisture than wait longer.... i water my big plants every 7-10 days or so but you cant go by that my plants are in 5 gal. buckets. water needs will change throughout the grow..

 

[Baz]

runoff is not the best way to ph soil but if you run 6.0 through and it comes out 6.5 or more your probably too high i don't remember the exact numbers sumone posted about it like a year ago sumthin like for every .5 higher the runoff is add 1 to the starting ph and thats close to what the soil is... you should only be watering when they need it, their is no set schedual that is right usually either go be weight of the pot or poke your finger in up to the second knuckle and if you feel moisture than wait longer.... i water my big plants every 7-10 days or so but you cant go by that my plants are in 5 gal. buckets. water needs will change throughout the grow..

Thanks tussle, i have just tested the run off and it was 7.0 from 6.9, so maybe thats the prob.. i also have been thinking and the first week and half they had no form of drip trays, that won't of helped will it? i've about 5 left now, the other 4 are looking like gonners, at least i got 1 doing good lol

1st pic doing good, rest are doomed im sure, can you see my new growth on pic 2? oh and i just drank some of my ph runoff, that good or bad ?

 

[winkdogg420]

hey baz you can trim some of the yellow off so the plant doesnt waste energy trying to fox it will make new growth come faster! i think i had my bubble cloner too cold but i think i saved two of the WW clones! im hoping!

 

[Baz]

Yea good idea wink, got nothing to lose trying huh

Good luck with yours too bud

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

see what ya mean about the weird growth like baz almost looks like it wasn't to flower rather than push new shoots out. hang in there man

 

[tusseltussel]

Thanks tussle, i have just tested the run off and it was 7.0 from 6.9, so maybe thats the prob.. i also have been thinking and the first week and half they had no form of drip trays, that won't of helped will it? i've about 5 left now, the other 4 are looking like gonners, at least i got 1 doing good lol

1st pic doing good, rest are doomed im sure, can you see my new growth on pic 2? oh and i just drank some of my ph runoff, that good or bad ?

.1 increase isn't much but it still means your over 7.0 espetially when your giving it a high ph to begin with you may be able to just flush it out with like 6.0 water and bring it down, ideally it should be like 6.5 for most nutes to be absorbed there is a chart sumwhere that shows what is absorbed at what ph and most are right in that 6.5-6.8 area. so it still might not be your problem but it is a problem and the best way to fix a problem is to fix a problem... so you could try and flush with 6.0 on your next watering and lightly feed directly after the flush because....well you flushed all the nutes away. there is also aluminum sulfate that i belive it can be mixed in a gallon of water and it will make the soil more acidic. if not in water you could scratch it into the surface of the soil and watered in be sure to not over water or flush untill they are really dry like almost wilting... a lil h202 is always good to have around too. it really helps out root uptake, kills fungus gnats, any root rot and can help put oxygen back in their if you been overwatering.


i never use drip trays... my growroom has a concrete floor with a drain in the corner so the floor is my drip tray...... good luck baz.


your not usein one of those crappy grow tents that offgas and kill plants are you??? thats what it was last time no one could figure a problem out....

you do have good ventilation right??? not just a fan blowin stale air around

 

[Baz]

.1 increase isn't much but it still means your over 7.0 espetially when your giving it a high ph to begin with you may be able to just flush it out with like 6.0 water and bring it down, ideally it should be like 6.5 for most nutes to be absorbed there is a chart sumwhere that shows what is absorbed at what ph and most are right in that 6.5-6.8 area. so it still might not be your problem but it is a problem and the best way to fix a problem is to fix a problem... so you could try and flush with 6.0 on your next watering and lightly feed directly after the flush because....well you flushed all the nutes away. there is also aluminum sulfate that i belive it can be mixed in a gallon of water and it will make the soil more acidic. if not in water you could scratch it into the surface of the soil and watered in be sure to not over water or flush untill they are really dry like almost wilting... a lil h202 is always good to have around too. it really helps out root uptake, kills fungus gnats, any root rot and can help put oxygen back in their if you been overwatering.


i never use drip trays... my growroom has a concrete floor with a drain in the corner so the floor is my drip tray...... good luck baz.


your not usein one of those crappy grow tents that offgas and kill plants are you??? thats what it was last time no one could figure a problem out....

you do have good ventilation right??? not just a fan blowin stale air around

Thanks Tussle, ok im using the same water which was 7.0 to grow my bagseed christmas trees u remember em right, the clones are in the same CFL room that the trees grew in, my guess is you can grow a seed from gremination with 7.0 pH, but using the same pH on cuttings f*ks em up, least i got 1 doing good lol

Not a tent but a room under the stairs, no intake, just one pc fan and ducting taking the heat away from my diy hood, plus an ocilating fan blowing the heat from under the hood

I'll tell what went wrong.. i started with my first CFL grows (christmas trees) then spent some real cash upgrading, but then i become a dad, get a job and decide to buy a boat to sail off into the sunset, im almost there just hope i can take as much weed with me as possible he he

Thanks for help

 

[Baz]

Ok something has happened with the clones...

Got some new growth and greenery lol, im sure you can work out wich is wich, i think the one pictured last is doomed, not sure on the rest

The 1 in pic 2 is funny to look at

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

I reckon 1 and 2 have a chance the others are 50/50 fingers X'd for ya man