dwc roots going brown, why?

[HomeGrownHairy]

yo peeps, im growing a dwc in distilled water from my dehumidifer. {/quote]
What is your process for getting that water. It's not the dehumidifier from your furnace, is it? That stuff would surely kill your plants. Dont use it!

 

[blueybong]

Oh yeah, just some advice for next time. Build your room and run a crop with a soiless mix next time, until you get your temps dialed in correctly... then go hydro when its temp is controllable.

My room never gets above 72 and res is always about 64

I'm in the process of harvesting two plants that I grew in a DWC 5 gal bucket. The water has been basically room temp the entire grow and I haven't had any root rot or other heat related problems.

Room was any where from 72 to 85 over 3 months.

 

[7echni7ioN420]

I've been told root rot can be caused by lack of oxygen. Would upgrading or adding a another water pump help with this problem?

 

[jammin26]

nah.. my pump is 7.2L/min only using 10L pot. could my tap water have shit in it? its 250ppm and on 0.4(ec) pen. high ph ,like 7-8. but comes through copper pipes. the dehumidifier aint nothing to do with a furnace its just just a unit in the room which pulls moisture out of the air and collects it. it has ec of 00 sop must be below 64ppm and ph 7. i think im going to use this and boil to remove bacteria it should be ok. im using h2o2 aswell snd it didnt seem to do jack

 

[SlikWiLL13]

nah.. my pump is 7.2L/min only using 10L pot. could my tap water have shit in it? its 250ppm and on 0.4(ec) pen. high ph ,like 7-8. but comes through copper pipes. the dehumidifier aint nothing to do with a furnace its just just a unit in the room which pulls moisture out of the air and collects it. it has ec of 00 sop must be below 64ppm and ph 7. i think im going to use this and boil to remove bacteria it should be ok. im using h2o2 aswell snd it didnt seem to do jack

dude, my tap water is 350+ ppm and i grow these -

collecting the water from you dehumidifier and boiling it is WAY too much work. those few ppm in the dehumidifier could be toxic due to the collection method of the unit.

use your tap water. let it sit out overnight to evaporate the choline then use it. if the ph is high then adjust it.

you say you used h2o2 and it "didnt do jack"...what did you expect it to do? how did you use it?

 

[jammin26]

i added the h2o2 (17.5% oxyplus) at 0.5ml a litre of res water. first time i added it the roots were slightly discolored (going brown) couple days later they were worse. but the roots were fine to start with then i added 300ppm nutes and got brown spots on the leafs and roots started darkening.
can it be too do with the temp of the plant compared to the roots - i.e the green part should be at least 5 degrees warmer than the roots?

 

[SlikWiLL13]

im pretty new to DWC, been growing for close to a decade though. my roots used to get a tan - brownish tinge. now i add 5ml of 3% every day or two to my 2 1/2 gallon bucket and they stay pearly white.

 

[aknight3]

using h202 once will not cure it overnight, root rot is almost impossible to get rid of man, u just have to cope with it now, look at skillwills post, fuck the water ur waters fine, balance the ph right and keep the ppms down after u add nutes, figure ur ppm iS ALREAD Y 250, ur gonna have to add some ph dowen or sodium bisulfate which is at least another 100ppm to get it from 7 to 5, so u already got 350ppm , dont add 1500 ppm then ask why ur shits burning cus thatll be 1800 ppm, go from 350, add 650 for 1000 during flowering, if thye like it give em more, be careful of ur salts though u can really fuck em up

 

[cashcow1000]

but what do you learn from growing soil

you stick it in soil, you water it with plain water until the nutes run out then half ass guess at something like 2 tablespoons per gallon, and you never really get an idea of what works,


what do you learn from soil that prepares you for a hydro grow?

You're not reading dude, I can't teach you. FIRST OF ALL your not just watering with plain water and no its not SOIL, I said, SOIL LESS... Big difference.

Pay attention cuz I am not typing it again.... ready...
You are using soiless for the FIRST show in a NEW room because your a retard and you don't know what your humidity, temps or air circulation is like yet, again because your a retard. You still have pens and you still check ph AND YOU STILL DO EVERYTHING YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO, EXCEPT (pay attention here!!) YOU DON'T HAVE A WASTED CROP BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNEW WHAT WAS WRONG IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE THEY LISTENED TO A JACKASS LIKE YOU!kiss-ass

STOP GIVING ADVICE.

Funny thing, every time you post a reply, you make yourself seem less credible because of the naive arguments you make. Keep growing your dirt weed f-face!

 

[cashcow1000]

but what do you learn from growing soil

you stick it in soil, you water it with plain water until the nutes run out then half ass guess at something like 2 tablespoons per gallon, and you never really get an idea of what works,


what do you learn from soil that prepares you for a hydro grow?

SIMPLE. EVERYTHING... wait, maybe you missed it again... EVERYTHING>

 

[cashcow1000]

I'm in the process of harvesting two plants that I grew in a DWC 5 gal bucket. The water has been basically room temp the entire grow and I haven't had any root rot or other heat related problems.

Room was any where from 72 to 85 over 3 months.


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Congrats thats great! I am not discouraging any hydro media, just be aware of threats to your investment...

Ok, here it is. Growing marijuana is a science. Its been done for hundreds of thousands of years.

As soon as you grow in any water culture you need to be aware of what your water temps are to AVOID potentially time consuming and costly mistakes that are then commonly misdiagnosed and maybe repeated.. If you know that you have high res temps and that it "CAN" be harmful, wouldn't you be likely to avoid it rather than wait for it to happen. This is why I give this kind of advice. I am in BC, have grown more weed than I will ever be able to smoke and might know a bit about what I am saying otherwise I wouldn't waste my time typing this.

Don't get me wrong, hydro is the way to go. If you have done your prep correctly before plants go in (by this I mean everything runs without plants) so that you can stabilize these potentially hazardous WEEKNESSES.

Or listen to easygrindick and grow dirt weed like him.

 

[cashcow1000]

yo peeps, im growing a dwc in distilled water from my dehumidifer. 70F water temp about 400ppmand using h2o2 the roots over last week started to go brownfucked off as started off pearly white plant about 4-5 weeks old. could it be copper or other shit in water . should i get purer water? could it be nutes too strong, could it be temps. i can't stick any picture wiv it nothing happens when i click the attachments tab?

Looks like things are going as I expected, but you probably already knew that. Next time don't be ungreatful for the advice thats given to you for FREE. kiss-ass

Next time don't send me a private hack you spineless jerk, do it in a forum so others can avoid you too!

 

[cashcow1000]

yo peeps, im growing a dwc in distilled water from my dehumidifer. {/quote]
What is your process for getting that water. It's not the dehumidifier from your furnace, is it? That stuff would surely kill your plants. Dont use it!

Yes, he is quite serious. F-ing retards, this forum sucks my fucking balls.kiss-ass

 

[cashcow1000]

kiss-assim having nightmares finding water for my dwc. my tapwater is 250 ppm ph7.5 but im not sure its good. could i use dehumidier water and boil it ? or buy some water? what water did you use?

At the off chance that this is serious. STOP using dehumidified water, thats for the air in the room your growing in, not to water with... SERIOUSLY????? YES use tap water, yes adjust the PH and yes add nutes to it and yes add peroxide to res for oxygen (heps reduce bacteria forming). I usually fill a secondary res the day before with tap water that sits for 24hrs or so, that way there is less chlorine and other additives.

This is exactly why I keep saying, read some shit before you waste your time. Lots have already done that and guess what, they wrote book on what and what not to do.. BECAUSE THEY DID IT

 

[cashcow1000]

see thats a better response than give up on hydro until you know what you are doing, and go use a soil less mix

I never said give up hydro. But your slow, so I'll try 4 times now.

I said that, people should not get sucked into spending a bunch of money and time building a hydro set up until they have grown something and understand the basic principles. Otherwise they have shit happen to them that they cannot diagnose and instead resort to retards like you who mislead them into growing your fine American dirt weed.

I absolutely love hydro, if you know what you're doing..

I'm not the enemy ass face!

 

[jammin26]

sorry cashcow1000, do not waste your time with me. i am a brainless waste of time who has spent 1o years trying to grow and still can't.
one last question for anybody-
i have a dwc, everything simple as, got 1 plant , 6 litre res, using tap water and h2o2 , using 0.2 ec nutes everything should be fine only starting to get browning roots.

do i need to use more nutes as using very little or is it the nutes that is turning the roots brown? cos i think i may have picked up a dodgy bottle of nutes.

 

[easygrinder]

I never said give up hydro. But your slow, so I'll try 4 times now.

I said that, people should not get sucked into spending a bunch of money and time building a hydro set up until they have grown something and understand the basic principles. Otherwise they have shit happen to them that they cannot diagnose and instead resort to retards like you who mislead them into growing your fine American dirt weed.

I absolutely love hydro, if you know what you're doing..

I'm not the enemy ass face!

well your still being a dumb fuck

 

[FLoJo]

At the off chance that this is serious. STOP using dehumidified water, thats for the air in the room your growing in, not to water with... SERIOUSLY????? YES use tap water, yes adjust the PH and yes add nutes to it and yes add peroxide to res for oxygen (heps reduce bacteria forming). I usually fill a secondary res the day before with tap water that sits for 24hrs or so, that way there is less chlorine and other additives.

This is exactly why I keep saying, read some shit before you waste your time. Lots have already done that and guess what, they wrote book on what and what not to do.. BECAUSE THEY DID IT

umm.. water that comes from the dehumidifier is about as pure as it gets.. it is cleaner and better water than what comes out of the tap,. the only problem might be if it runs through copper tubing, which is not a bad deal as long as the water coming out is not overly acidic.

but anyways, dont be a fucking asshole to people asking legit questions, its not like he is spreading disinfo, he is trying to get advice, so either be constructive or go try to remove the dick from your ass.

ok, so, back on topic... Original Poster, you said you were using a 7.2L/min pump? are you not using an AIR pump in your DWC? with any dwc, where the roots are continuously suspended in a nutrient soulution, the key is to have 65-70 degree water, and a very hefty air pump, and a large air stone keeping the oxygen levels high..

do the roots smell kinda nasty? because if not you could be ok, and your nutes could be staining the roots brown. if you can get a hold of 35 percent h202, put 1/6 h202 and 5/6 water, then dunk your roots in it for about 30 seconds... this will fry all the root rot, and then you can put it back in the dwc system..

dont mind the haters, ask questions if you cant find answers

 

[jammin26]

cheers flojo, i thought my head was in the right place. yer, im using an air pump rated (HAILEA ACO 9602) 7.2 Litres per minute and i've only got 7 litres of water in my resorvoir. i tempted to start using my dehumidifier water after reading that. room temp is 17C so water temp is just below that, shouldn't be probs with heat, this aint texas. im thinking its the nutes but how do u keep white roots while still using nutes? i may have to buy new nutes and remember to pick up a sealed bottle or use some gaurdian angel or root guard, im already using h202, or otherwise known as oxyplus which hasn't really impressed my so far. on the bright side ive got a seedling grown about 2in since yesterday in coco.

 

[FLoJo]

if your air temps are good, water temps are good, and you have good aeration, and are using h2o2 i would bet its the nutes staining em... just gotta either learn to spot the rot or go with a new nute brand..