ilovekasey17
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I'm about 1 month into flowering. I didn't veg very long. Half of the hairs are already brown, but I've yet to see trichomes. What is wrong?
50% hairs amber. Still no trichomes. Why?
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ilovekasey17
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What kind of pictures do you want. Just close ups of the leafs?
No, I only have one plant. Couldn't have gotten pollinated.
gangjababy
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some plants are more dank then others and some have more trichomes then others. You still have some time to go as well.
Hey brotha.
Why? Because you dont judge a plant by its hairs, you judge it by its trichs.
You're going to need atleast a 30x microscope to see whats going on, but I suggest the 60x from Radio Shack.
Look through that sucker and you'll see some trichromes. If not, wait a little longer.
If you have a Sativa dominant strain the trichs may not come until later because of how long the flowering period is.
When the trichs are about 10% amber, harvest that bitch.
Only time will tell.
Why? Because you dont judge a plant by its hairs, you judge it by its trichs.
You're going to need atleast a 30x microscope to see whats going on, but I suggest the 60x from Radio Shack.
Look through that sucker and you'll see some trichromes. If not, wait a little longer.
If you have a Sativa dominant strain the trichs may not come until later because of how long the flowering period is.
When the trichs are about 10% amber, harvest that bitch.
Only time will tell.
ilovekasey17
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Thanks. Pretty damn good advice. I'll be watching out for that. 10%, and I'll harvest.
Hey. Amber color is personal preference. If you want a "couch-lock" type high, I would go with about 30-40% amber. If you want more of an uppity-head high, I would harvest earlier, before seeing much if any amber. Just nice, full, milky trichs. Mushroom shaped.
Trichs change color
from beginning to end --->
Clear ---> Milky ---> Amber.
Killer Bud
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bterz, How would you know from the pic the plant is in shock? just wondering im new to this so im trying to learn a little some thing.
kanabis
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And what in world made you top that plant that early? if topping was necessary because of a problem of height, then wait until you have 7 to 8 nodes and top above the fifth or sixth node. How long do you have this plant in veg? I believe not more than 3 weeks (add 2 weeks if you started from scratch). Your plant is not ready to flower, wait until branches are asymmetric and the stem is not straight anymore (you'll see), you can also wait to see pre-flowers. The plant is clearly striving except a slight discolouration on some fan leaves that are on their way to heaven. Don't ask me why, there could be a thousand reasons!
A note about topping and pruning: Why did you do do it? if it is because you heard or read a post that would promote it, get some books and understand how it works. You prune the top to make lower branches stronger which in my opinion doesn't make any sense since lower branches will NOT receive the amount of light necessary to produce nice buds unless you grow outdoor which is not your case. If it is because you want 2 or 4 colas, know that your yield will decrease since the stem and branches are very thin so the amount of nutrients will have to shared. It's clear that you still need to learn a lot and believe me we've all been there. Next time, forget about topping and learn how to prune. If this was my plant, I would start again if I have a problem of space, if not I would veg it to make a mother. Good Luck and loose the pruning until you know what you're doing!
A note about topping and pruning: Why did you do do it? if it is because you heard or read a post that would promote it, get some books and understand how it works. You prune the top to make lower branches stronger which in my opinion doesn't make any sense since lower branches will NOT receive the amount of light necessary to produce nice buds unless you grow outdoor which is not your case. If it is because you want 2 or 4 colas, know that your yield will decrease since the stem and branches are very thin so the amount of nutrients will have to shared. It's clear that you still need to learn a lot and believe me we've all been there. Next time, forget about topping and learn how to prune. If this was my plant, I would start again if I have a problem of space, if not I would veg it to make a mother. Good Luck and loose the pruning until you know what you're doing!
napa23
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Sorry, Kanabis, I have to disagree. First, you can start flowering whenever you want. Some people even start 12/12 from seed and it works out ok. You won't get as much bud, but you'll get some. Second, nobody tops to make the bottom branches stronger, they top to get multiple main cola's. You don't need to start again, your plant is fine. LST is a good option for space constrictions. You just tie down some of the branches. This does two things. You buy yourself some room to grow and you give the lower branches more light. It's possible that they can get more light even though they're not outside. And just because you top, doesn't mean your yield will be smaller.
rzza
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YOU MEAN THRIVING?
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE TOP, SO THEY do RECIEVE THE AMOUNT OF LIGHT THAT THE one COLA WOULD RECIEE IF IT WASNT TOPPED.
DONT LISTEN TO HIM AND START OVER, FINISH THE GROW AND THEN LOOK BACK AND LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES AND CHANGE HOW YOU DO YOUR NEXT GROW.
IM SURE YOU READ ub'S STICKY ON HOW TO GET TWO AND FOUR MAIN COLAS AND YOU DID FINE BUT I WOULD STRIP THE FIRST SET OF non TRUE LEAVES, THEY MIGHT GROW BRANCHES AND NOT BE DOMINANT.
kanabis
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I think we all agree that the main goal to grow is to sustain your own consumption which require to maximise the harvest in yield and quality,
@nappa23: Flowering from seeds does NOT make any sense to me, the investment in nuts, soil, electricity and time would be far superior from the gain, this without even considering the quality of the smoke. Same goes for topping indoor to obtain 2 or 4 colas, unless you have a strong structure, no doubt the yield will be inferior if this is the object.
@rzza: Sorry for striving. If an amateur has few or no experience, I would not recommend to apply pruning or LST techniques until he's comfortable growing traditionally. There are other techniques to remediate the lack of light under the canopy like leaf pruning, again you must know why you're doing what you're doing.
@nappa23: Flowering from seeds does NOT make any sense to me, the investment in nuts, soil, electricity and time would be far superior from the gain, this without even considering the quality of the smoke. Same goes for topping indoor to obtain 2 or 4 colas, unless you have a strong structure, no doubt the yield will be inferior if this is the object.
@rzza: Sorry for striving. If an amateur has few or no experience, I would not recommend to apply pruning or LST techniques until he's comfortable growing traditionally. There are other techniques to remediate the lack of light under the canopy like leaf pruning, again you must know why you're doing what you're doing.
napa23
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Haha I never said it was efficient, just trying to illustrate that you can flower whenever. If topping makes inferior yields, why do so many people do it? I think it depends on the strain. Never top an autoflower, they dont have enough veg time. Some strains, like Big Bud and Blue Mstic, take very well to topping and will increase yield. LST isn't hard...at all. You just have to start when the branches or main stem is still easily bendable. You really can't mess it up unless you go too far with a stiff stem. Alot of people are against defoliation until around harvest time. LST would be much better. I do agree, however, that he should get at least one grow under his belt before he attempts anything like that. There are so many things to learn the first grow. Like watering, nutrients, lights, everything is situational. I'm not trying to knock your methods or anything, if it works well for you it's all good.
pointswest
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I have topped for 40 years and have grown colas the size of your arm on outside grows. Topping makes the plant bush and fill out, you are not hurting your plants by topping. Try and see. I have topped at 8 notes to 6 on all branches multiple times and have ended up with 75-80 large colas at finish. Topping, like your choice of pipes, is a personal decision, but don't be afraid to top up till flowering. Saying you cannot grow good plants by topping is BS.