250w HPS Club And Help Guide

[Doobieus]

I got a floralux i am getting rid of.Used it for 2 grows,has the cooling flanges and glass.And it has a new hps bulb.It will also light MH conversion bulb.Love my new lumatek setup.

Conversion is so the way to go, unfortunately I'm kinda broke at the moment so Floralux it is lol. I haven't noticed any negative things from my Floralux.

Thank you Doobieus, I will raise the lights and I forgot to mention that I do have a humidifier.And the temp now is back to normal due to weather change.The cabinet temp goes up and down depending on the outside temp.As for switching to hps I will as soon as I find a 250w bulb.Thank you once again

Yeah the HPS will definitely help out getting those buds nice and dense. I use not just a humidifier but a cool mist one. I use 2 cheap 20 dollar cool mist humidifiers and one cheap ass 12" 3 dollar fan behind them to create a poor woman's A/C or evaporative cooler more so (Swamp cooler).

This keeps my temps around 77.7 -78.6 during the day mostly, no matter the temp outside of the grow cab. The low at night is 68 degrees. The only time it maxes it out at 80-82 is when I hit the damn RooR too many times and forget to fill the humidifiers up ha ha.

Also make sure your light can support both MH and HPS. If it can only support a MH bulb, you're going to need to get a new light for the HPS bulb.

Also no need to thank me, that's what this club is for. You're very welcome though .

 

[Burnzy]

Conversion is so the way to go, unfortunately I'm kinda broke at the moment so Floralux it is lol. I haven't noticed any negative things from my Floralux.


Yeah the HPS will definitely help out getting those buds nice and dense. I use not just a humidifier but a cool mist one. I use 2 cheap 20 dollar cool mist humidifiers and one cheap ass 12" 3 dollar fan behind them to create a poor woman's A/C or evaporative cooler more so (Swamp cooler).

This keeps my temps around 77.7 -78.6 during the day mostly, no matter the temp outside of the grow cab. The low at night is 68 degrees. The only time it maxes it out at 80-82 is when I hit the damn RooR too many times and forget to fill the humidifiers up ha ha.

Also make sure your light can support both MH and HPS. If it can only support a MH bulb, you're going to need to get a new light for the HPS bulb.

Also no need to thank me, that's what this club is for. You're very welcome though .

Never heard of cool mist humidifier's before. Will that actuallly lower the temps in the grow room? I need to lower my temps about 5-10 degrees to be ideal. If the cool mist humidifier would do that i'll be headin to the store today!! Let me know how these works if you could, and i can get them at like walmart for 20 bucks? Thanks

 

[Doobieus]

Never heard of cool mist humidifier's before. Will that actuallly lower the temps in the grow room? I need to lower my temps about 5-10 degrees to be ideal. If the cool mist humidifier would do that i'll be headin to the store today!! Let me know how these works if you could, and i can get them at like walmart for 20 bucks? Thanks

Got em' at the Walgreen's drug store down the block.... Don't know if you have one of those around. Wal-mart I think the cheapest in my area is like 40 bucks or so.

The cool mist humidifiers work for me personally, keeps my temps and humidity in check. I like that it works like a swamp cooling system when you have a fan behind it. I can get my light much closer because of this, so it helps out a lot for me.

If I didn't have the 2 cool mist humidifiers and my fan and just had my regular fans going for ventilation it'd probably get hot as hell. My space is 2' D x 4' W x 4' H, so it's pretty small, I don't have a lot of space to work with at the moment.

1 cool mist humidifier should be enough for 5 to 10 degrees or so.

 

[Burnzy]

Ok cool I'll have to check it out. I'm having a problem keeping my temp below 85. I've run out of idea's so hopefully this is the secret

 

[Doobieus]

Ok cool I'll have to check it out. I'm having a problem keeping my temp below 85. I've run out of idea's so hopefully this is the secret

Yeah for sure, try it out it was the trick for me. Just watch your humidity, because it'll shoot up real fast. Also you can either get a filtered one or non filtered. The filter helps with calcium build up and all that nasty crap, you just gotta change it out every 6 months. I have enough air flow going so that the calcium doesn't build up on my plants. If you don't have a bunch of air flow going, I recommend you get a filtered cool mist humidifier.

 

[Mindmelted]

Houston we have a problem.The damn transducer disc on the fogger craped out.Not very much use for it to go out so soon.Ordered some replacements so i can continue with the experiment.

 

[Doobieus]

Houston we have a problem.The damn transducer disc on the fogger craped out.Not very much use for it to go out so soon.Ordered some replacements so i can continue with the experiment.

Awww that sucks dude, thankfully you have DWC to back it up lol. Glad you're getting replacements to continue this experiment though, keep us updated .

 

[MyGTO2007]

my plan is to build a room in the garage, 7' x 8' x 7' insulate it and sheet rock it... use these lights and fan...hydrofarm 2x250 HPS for main light and some 2, 6 bulb T5's for the side lights.. on 6 plants... will this work good , and what kind of 250 hps bulb is best, i was looking at the Eye hortilux, super HPS

 

[Doobieus]

my plan is to build a room in the garage, 7' x 8' x 7' insulate it and sheet rock it... use these lights and fan...hydrofarm 2x250 HPS for main light and some 2, 6 bulb T5's for the side lights.. on 6 plants... will this work good , and what kind of 250 hps bulb is best, i was looking at the Eye hortilux, super HPS

A 250w HPS doesn't have enough light penetration for a room that high. So my best advice would be to either lower the height or get a bigger light or get another 250. Adding T5's will give it a more natural light but again there's the light penetration issue again.

Basically your top canopy will look great but the lower nodes are not going to be that great, because the 250 cannot penetrate through 8 feet of height which will affect lumens, because as the light penetration dies so does the lumens. Unless you had one HPS on each side and one on the top, that would provide the proper light penetration to the lower buds/nodes and the top/canopy.

A 250w has about a 4 to 5 foot light penetration, 5 is REALLY stretching it though. If you want the dense buds HPS's are known for producing definitely take care of any light penetration issues.

The eye hortilux bulbs are nice but pricey, but they work well. I use whatever hps bulb I can get my hands on that's reasonably priced. I haven't noticed any negative effects from this.

Hope this helps some.

 

[Mindmelted]

I would do 2 600 watters and the T5s for side.With that you should be nice.

 

[Bodders]

A 250w HPS doesn't have enough light penetration for a room that high. So my best advice would be to either lower the height or get a bigger light or get another 250. Adding T5's will give it a more natural light but again there's the light penetration issue again.

Basically your top canopy will look great but the lower nodes are not going to be that great, because the 250 cannot penetrate through 8 feet of height which will affect lumens, because as the light penetration dies so does the lumens. Unless you had one HPS on each side and one on the top, that would provide the proper light penetration to the lower buds/nodes and the top/canopy.

A 250w has about a 4 to 5 foot light penetration, 5 is REALLY stretching it though. If you want the dense buds HPS's are known for producing definitely take care of any light penetration issues.

The eye hortilux bulbs are nice but pricey, but they work well. I use whatever hps bulb I can get my hands on that's reasonably priced. I haven't noticed any negative effects from this.

Hope this helps some.

Hi I only have a HPS 250 Son T my confusion is the hight of my seedlings before i put them into bloom.SWome pple say let them grow to 12inches then bloom but what i have read that is still a little to high.I have 5 plants and 4 seedlings the 5plants are all around 6inch i think nows the time for bloom i can see preflowers on them all except the seedlings.I have a 70 watt Hps that i use to penetrate the canopy but have only done this for say 2-3 plants max.This time i think ive gone a little too far with the amount.I dont have a veg grow i only have the 1bloom i dont have much space but im working on it.My extraction /intake and outake are all in one and im getting plent of fresh moving air with good temps what else could you recommend?.

 

[Mindmelted]

A good carbon scrubber.And if you have limited space,switch them 12/12 now.

 

[Bodders]

A good carbon scrubber.And if you have limited space,switch them 12/12 now.

Hi what about my 2 PPP and 2 CB seedlings.Ok the PPP is ok in 12/12 but i9 have 2 CB seedlings too.I think wait for the seedlings till pre-flower then go 12/12 what do you guys say??????.hump:

 

[Doobieus]

I would do 2 600 watters and the T5s for side.With that you should be nice.

That's funny I was going to suggest that, but I didn't know if they wanted to stick with 250's or upgrade.

Hi I only have a HPS 250 Son T my confusion is the hight of my seedlings before i put them into bloom.SWome pple say let them grow to 12inches then bloom but what i have read that is still a little to high.I have 5 plants and 4 seedlings the 5plants are all around 6inch i think nows the time for bloom i can see preflowers on them all except the seedlings.I have a 70 watt Hps that i use to penetrate the canopy but have only done this for say 2-3 plants max.This time i think ive gone a little too far with the amount.I dont have a veg grow i only have the 1bloom i dont have much space but im working on it.My extraction /intake and outake are all in one and im getting plent of fresh moving air with good temps what else could you recommend?.

As far as height is concerned, you can grow a plant out in veg forever. I usually let them grow until they show if they're female or male, then throw them into flowering. Now a good rule of thumb to follow with any plant for height is to remember that the cannabis plant (Depending on strain) can grow 2 to 3 times larger in flower. So if you have a 1 foot plant it can end up a 2-3 foot plant by harvest time.

I agree with MindMelted's last comment, if they're not feminized seeds you can pick out the males and give yourself a bit more room, sexing them or putting them into flower earlier will help you with that. If they're feminized.... guess you will have to make due or take out the unhealthiest females to make room for the healthier females. Carbon scrubbers are must for every grow, for security and safety.

Hope this helps.

 

[Bodders]

Hi what about my 2 PPP and 2 CB seedlings.Ok the PPP is ok in 12/12 but i have 2 CB seedlings too.I think wait for the seedlings till pre-flower then go 12/12 what do you guys say??????.hump:

Also i know i mite have a little smell???>I know im normally a micro grower and do no more than 1-2 plants but this time I,m on about 5-6plants still fuck da scrubber??.If i can get away with it i will????.

 

[Bodders]

Also i know i mite have a little smell???>I know im normally a micro grower and do no more than 1-2 plants but this time I,m on about 5-6plants still fuck da scrubber??.If i can get away with it i will????.

Im growing test seeds from my last PPP grow and all fem seeds from Barneys Crimea Blue ???.Whoop whoop lol??

 

[Bodders]

Help me pls some one lol whoop whoop !!!!??? lol

 

[Doobieus]

Also i know i mite have a little smell???>I know im normally a micro grower and do no more than 1-2 plants but this time I,m on about 5-6plants still fuck da scrubber??.If i can get away with it i will????.

5-6 plants with little smell? Highly unlikely, either get a carbon scrubber or make one yourself. There's a lot of good posts about do it yourself carbon scrubbers and how to make them.

I'd recommend a carbon scrubber personally because I think it's better to be safe than sorry.

 

[Doobieus]

Im growing test seeds from my last PPP grow and all fem seeds from Barneys Crimea Blue ???.Whoop whoop lol??

Nice but definitely get or make a carbon scrubber, that's gonna be stinky lol. Stinky in a good way of course .

 

[Doobieus]

Hi what about my 2 PPP and 2 CB seedlings.Ok the PPP is ok in 12/12 but i9 have 2 CB seedlings too.I think wait for the seedlings till pre-flower then go 12/12 what do you guys say??????.hump:

You need to wait until the seedlings grow out and train the PPP with LST so it doesn't grow too high.