DIY Closet DWC Grow - First grow ever

[jigfresh]

Hello all. My wife is the greatest, so on her way home from work today she stopped by the hydro store for me. I had never been there before. I really needed Cal-Mag for my rez change tomorrow, and I asked her if they were helpful and things were easy to get a few other thing. Luckily the owner is a lady and she was there. Helped my wife perfectly and now I have 4 brand new shiny bottles of stuff for my girls. And oh.... how you will be jealous (maybe).

So I got a new brand of cal-mag. I was using technaflora magical, and now I am using botanicare cal-mag plus. I know they are all pretty much the same, but this is a big difference for me. I'm all freaked out, well not that much. I also needed a new bottle of my DM potash+. This store had the previous generation of the stuff. Does this stuff go bad??? Anyhow the mix is slightly different. I emailed Dutch Master to ask if their stuff expires, I'm not taking a chance, I've put a lot of work in.

The fun stuff is an 8 oz. bottle of Gravity. I am going to play with a little bit of fire. I've been reading a lot and I forget now what I decided... haha, that's good. I think I'm going to start at 1 mL per gal. Then go up in small doses each day, maybe 5 mL more a day. Just for the 8 days that rez is in place. I'm also going to put my nutrients at 40% strength for that period. I'll also raise the lights at least 8 inches more. Like I said before I don't want to ruin everything for some extra weight.

The best I think was the sweetener I got. I asked for either General Hydroponics FloraNectar or b'cuzz flavor. I got the FloraNectar and I guess the hydro store had a new flavor... Pineapple Rush. My wife made the executive decision and so Pineapple flavored Hindy Skunk and White Widow it is. I beleive I am going to give the Nectar like 300 mL, 300 mL, 250 mL, 150 mL the final 4 weeks. Which by my calculations puts that 4 rez changes away, that's close enough. Don't know if that makes sense, but keep following I'll tell you what ends up happening

Thanks again for eveyone stopping by.

 

[kevin]

nice score jigfresh

 

[dirtystacks]

Hey Jigfresh, have you been keeping track of your investment so far in this grow? Things continue to look good....I'm so jealous!

 

[jigfresh]

Thanks kev. good to see you around.

Hey Jigfresh, have you been keeping track of your investment so far in this grow? Things continue to look good....I'm so jealous!

Yes and no... I have my big list you saw... but some of those things I don't actually use anymore. I've bought a bunch more stuff as well that I need to add to the tally. I have all the receipts together, just need to go through and write it all down. I believe I'm past the $3,000 mark now.

I'm getting closer and closer to possibly being in the red after the first harvest and I was expecting much blackness.

But I forget, that I will not be purchasing as well, so... this grow would pay for itself in 9 months if I didn't sell a gram.

I have begun already on my condensed grow journal, and when I get to my price list I will fix it then. At least my co2 was cheap, haha.

 

[dirtystacks]

I'm getting closer and closer to possibly being in the red after the first harvest and I was expecting much blackness.

But I forget, that I will not be purchasing as well, so... this grow would pay for itself in 9 months if I didn't sell a gram.

The good news is that next grow, you won't have to buy all the equipment you have now. So it won't be long until your green is in the black and you will never have to look back!

Of course there will always be ongoing costs, like nutes, light bulb replacements, utilities....but those will be incidentals in the future.

 

[jigfresh]

The good news is that next grow, you won't have to buy all the equipment you have now. So it won't be long until your green is in the black and you will never have to look back!

Of course there will always be ongoing costs, like nutes, light bulb replacements, utilities....but those will be incidentals in the future.

Well, I was planning on setting up a separate flowering space which would mean more equipment, but I'm not sure if I'm going to do that now.... I'll have to check with the accounting dept. However I feel like I will give them a break, let them get in a better accounting mood. You know what I'm saying?

It is hard to reign my ambition in sometimes.

But yeah, this whole thing make economic sense... In a few years I will be very much up. And that is what matters. That and love (haha, I'm feeling poetic).

 

[jigfresh]

I am 4 rez changes away from harvest, and I have 1 L of GH FloraNectar.

It calls for 10 mL per gal. I have 28 gal, so I could just put 250 mL each of the last 4 weeks/ changes. But I am wondering if there is a better use.

I am going to use gravity on the 3rd to last week, so I thought more sweetener then might be good as things really plump up.

I'm thinking 250 ml, 300 ml, 300 ml, 150 ml.

Also the last two weeks/ changes will be only water and sweetener.

But I am asking you guys, should I use more the last week? Don't use any the last week?

It's not that big a deal, I just want the most for my $20 and I would love if my buds tasted like pineapple.

 

[Hulk Nugs]

nice man those trichomes are multiplying like crazy, i just got my 60x-100x magnify glass its crazy seeing the trichs so close up. took me a while to see it but dam its fun to look at your nugs threw that, as for the 3 grand on your room ??? you serious ? dam man i thought you were at like half of that. I don't even want to know how much i am at spending wise, Did you see other growers use those nutes together ?? i was wondering what brand nutes will work good together i dont want to mix to different company's together until i know there compatible

 

[jigfresh]

nice man those trichomes are multiplying like crazy, i just got my 60x-100x magnify glass its crazy seeing the trichs so close up. took me a while to see it but dam its fun to look at your nugs threw that, as for the 3 grand on your room ??? you serious ? dam man i thought you were at like half of that. I don't even want to know how much i am at spending wise, Did you see other growers use those nutes together ?? i was wondering what brand nutes will work good together i dont want to mix to different company's together until i know there compatible

Yeah, the budget has blossomed like the buds hopefully, haha.

A magnifying glass and dehumidifier are next on my list. Then I only need a digital scale and some glass jars. I would love 4 more fans though, the wish list is never ending.

The nutes, I have read a lot... I have not seen anyone use Dutch Master nutes with the gravity and floranectar.

The floranectar (sweetener) will work with anything I beleive, it is just molasses and sugar and other stuff that lets them charge $20 a bottle. I wouldn't use strait molasses though in my rez.

The Gravity says it works with anything, it is only sea kelp extract and a few amino acids I think, so that shouldn't mess with anything.

I am no pro, but I think hardeners and sweeteners just blend with whatever you are using for nutes. Unless you are using super specialized additives. The only additives I am using are Silica, Potash, and a Rez Condtioner... and that stuff is pretty much like lubricant (in my mind).

It's amazing how little there is about nutrients. I don't know if people just don't care to share, or if they don't want to give out bad info, but it is so hard to find any info. I'm with you on that.

Any questions about specific items? I can help research.

 

[Hulk Nugs]

right on man you always have been there helping me yea and when i ask my hydro store about nutes not sure how much they know like the shooting powder when they should have told me that i need the shooting gel and not the powder since they sold me my setup they know what i have to work with, they are the ones that got me into House and Garden Nutes but i think that was just what was new, where did you hear about the gravity nute? i figure i want to start doing different mediums with different nutes then harvest everything see the difference for my self

 

[jigfresh]

I just heard about gravity reading around.

I am not necessarily suggesting gravity. Apparently it is about the most dangerous additive there is. From reading I think more people have killed their whole crop with gravity than anything else, but apparently it is worth it if done right.

I would check out something a bit safer (with your luck, haha). Bugscreen suggested some good stuff. Big Bud is probably the most popular (I am just morally opposed to Advanced Nutrients). I haven't heard of Massive before, but that is worth checking out. There is also something called Ripen i saw on another thread. Def want liquid. You should give your hydro store shit for that one, make them exchange the left over shooting powder for something else, that's totally their bad (in my opinion).

Does your hydro store have a website? If so shoot me a link and I'll check out what they sell. My new hydro store that I like very much only carries like half the nutrient companies (haha, they carry like 30 brands and it's still missing some big ones, stupid nutrient industry).

But yeah... I think the nutrient thing is the biggest part of this growing thing you have to figure out on your own. And it sucks becuase it costs so much damn money. Worth it though I guess if you do it right (crossing fingers).

 

[thor369]

the way isee it, the fatteners only add green weight, not crystal weight, in the end, you short yourself by smoking 20% more, then you might of, if it was less green, more crystal.


i will have to do a side by side run, of 8 clones, 4 with, 4 without, to see if final output, IF it is heavier, if equally as stony, on the 2 final piles, after weighing 4 with 4 without, to see the %% of weight added, then, 2 days, 2 grams, and see how long they last me, i roll 3 or 4 on a gram, and those last me most of a day, usually, so i will test the final output gram for gram.

 

[jigfresh]

the way isee it, the fatteners only add green weight, not crystal weight, in the end, you short yourself by smoking 20% more, then you might of, if it was less green, more crystal.


i will have to do a side by side run, of 8 clones, 4 with, 4 without, to see if final output, IF it is heavier, if equally as stony, on the 2 final piles, after weighing 4 with 4 without, to see the %% of weight added, then, 2 days, 2 grams, and see how long they last me, i roll 3 or 4 on a gram, and those last me most of a day, usually, so i will test the final output gram for gram.

That would be an awesome test. I am looking forward to running test in the future. I don't want to change my set up now, but I would like two identical setups next to eachother, and run different chemicals. See how much of a waste some of this stuff is.

I am a big supporter of experimentation.

 

[Hulk Nugs]

yea i was just checking out the FAQ i am going to try this for one of my grows https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=223

 

[jigfresh]

yea i was just checking out the FAQ i am going to try this for one of my grows https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=223

That's wild. I always wondered if there was something you can do to the light cycles to change things around without screwing up the plant.

So I guess the 12 hours of dark is the real key. It would be all weird but you could do 24/12 too I guess, just a longer wait.

Thanks for telling me about that, in all my reading I never heard anything like that.

 

[Iamtreehigh]

yea i was just checking out the FAQ i am going to try this for one of my grows https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=223

That is pretty interesting.
Jig,
That pineapple rush is supposed to give a pineapple flavor? I have never heard of it. I wonder how it is gonna taste.

 

[jigfresh]

That is pretty interesting.
Jig,
That pineapple rush is supposed to give a pineapple flavor? I have never heard of it. I wonder how it is gonna taste.

The lady at the shop said it was new... here's what a fellow riu member said:

Hey man, I use floranectar and pineapple rush from seedling to end of harvest and my buds smell and taste so sweet. When you disturb them they give off a really fruity smell. I love it!

I asked about it in another thread. I put the first batch in today when I changed the rez. Should I call it 'pineapple hindu'?

 

[runbysun]

great log of all youre 1st time scrog......i have JUST, like 4 days ago put some of my older clones in a VERY similar almost exact enviroment..... i was on here looking for screen suggestions, and now i have answers! thank you!

 

[jigfresh]

great log of all youre 1st time scrog......i have JUST, like 4 days ago put some of my older clones in a VERY similar almost exact enviroment..... i was on here looking for screen suggestions, and now i have answers! thank you!

Glad I could help. feel free to ask anything as well.

And in case you didn't know:

We'z growing some dank up in this thread.

Welcome.

 

[drynroasty]

added FloraNectar last Sunday and saw some great physical results already.