1000 hps vs. 2x 400 hps?

[9inch bigbud]

Why would 2 x 600w be a 1200w light...? 2 x 600w lights is 2 600w lights and thats why its better then a Single 1000w.

600w lights are the MOST efficient for Lumen/watt. 1000w is no where near as efficient as a 600w HPS light as far as power/lumen output.

I dont understand how you can possibly think 150k lumens at 1000w can be better then 200k lumens at 1200w.

as said before fill the room with CFL's to the amount of a HPS you will not grow the same!

for fuck sake bc cock dont you read plants do not grow in 2D or sq per foot they grow 3D light all round. take a look back in this thread and you say that 2x600 in a 4x4 room is a waste of electric? now you are sying it is not? go suck your m8's mind fuk and let this go on as it should! you have no idea of what works. I do! as i said to you in some bull shit thread about advanced nutrient you bekive all the hype and think it will grow better than vitalink A&B no it will not its the fucking light you put down on it that will tell the plant what it needs and when it need it!

 

[mindphuk]

as said befor fill the room with CFL's to the amount of a HPS you will not grow the same!

Another red-herring. Wow, you really like using those fallacies.

Hint: CFLs are not HPS, different type and spectrum of light, not to mention CFLs are not point source light so comparison to HPS is invalid as has been discussed many, many times on the various CFL threads.

So you still didn't answer his question. How can a single 150K lumen lamp outperform 2 lamps producing 180-190K lumens (of identical type)? If the room is setup correctly to where the light from 2 lamps wouldn't be wasted by too much overlap, then there is no reason an experience grower couldn't manage to get bigger yields from the 2 lamp setup. Sure, the individual plants will not be as big as under the 1000w one but you would be able to cover more space and add more plants to make up for it. If you or laserbum couldn't do it, don't blame the lamps but the technique or the room.

 

[9inch bigbud]

We agree on indisputable facts and that makes us "up eachothers arses"...?

What are you 12?

So does that mean you think Everyone who agrees with undisputed facts has their head up their ass?

Do you ever feel like everyone else is an idiot and your the only smart one?

Maybe thats why only you can comprehend that light is somehow food..

no i dont i tell it how i see it with, growing shit, shit under lights! and you have seen 2 my may be 2-3 of my grow rooms ? i have a few more also, ill post pics if you want? - the truth is I have both you dont! read the tread again!

 

[jordisgarden]

as said before fill the room with CFL's to the amount of a HPS you will not grow the same!

is that statement even english? because i have no idea what that means.....does he mean that cfls suck in compairison to hps? or they are the same thing?
because cfls dont even come close to hps.
hps is the way to go. cfls suck as far as im concerned. the only way id use cfls is if i was growing 1 plant and it had to fit in a 2 by 2 space.

i am using a 400hps in a closet and i built a 6 by 6 room for my 600 watt hps. in the 400 spot i have 2 100 hps lamps for side light

 

[9inch bigbud]

as said before fill the room with CFL's to the amount of a HPS you will not grow the same!

is that statement even english? because i have no idea what that means.....does he mean that cfls suck in compairison to hps? or they are the same thing?
because cfls dont even come close to hps.
hps is the way to go. cfls suck as far as im concerned. the only way id use cfls is if i was growing 1 plant and it had to fit in a 2 by 2 space.

i am using a 400hps in a closet and i built a 6 by 6 room for my 600 watt hps. in the 400 spot i have 2 100 hps lamps for side light

you can add all the watts you like be it CFL's or LED's at the same power out put as a 1000=watt HPS it will not grow anymore bud! read the tread again before you post please! then you will understand it.

 

[BCtrippin]

you can add all the watts you like be it CFL's or LED's at the same power out put as a 1000=watt HPS it will not grow anymore bud! read the tread again before you post please! then you will understand it.

Dude are you mentally challenged? Seriously?

How can you compare HID lighting to CFLs or LED..

....HID is High Intensity Discharge in case you cant figure that out.


https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/83128-lumens-lux-adding-all-up.html

Read the First Post of that thread... The Only reason Im even bothering to respond to your utter Bull Shit is that at this point, your trying to spread completely false info and that isnt fair to new people who might think you know what your talking about.

 

[9inch bigbud]

Another red-herring. Wow, you really like using those fallacies.

Hint: CFLs are not HPS, different type and spectrum of light, not to mention CFLs are not point source light so comparison to HPS is invalid as has been discussed many, many times on the various CFL threads.

So you still didn't answer his question. How can a single 150K lumen lamp outperform 2 lamps producing 180-190K lumens (of identical type)? If the room is setup correctly to where the light from 2 lamps wouldn't be wasted by too much overlap, then there is no reason an experience grower couldn't manage to get bigger yields from the 2 lamp setup. Sure, the individual plants will not be as big as under the 1000w one but you would be able to cover more space and add more plants to make up for it. If you or laserbum couldn't do it, don't blame the lamps but the technique or the room.

as i said before fuck off i have not even read your post your wasting your time! talk to a birck wall all you will get out of me is a copy and paste of this thread.

i have proof with pics and would not lie why would i?another fucker that needs to read the shit from the start!

 

[BCtrippin]

as i said before fuck off i have not even read your post your wasting your time! talk to a birck wall all you will get out of me is a copy and paste of this thread.

i have proof with pics and would not lie why would i?another fucker that needs to read the shit from the start!

You just dont get it do you. Your pics only prove that you dont know what your doing. If you did you would yield more with 2 x 600w vs 1 x 1000w.

 

[Mcgician]

This thread rules!

Hey, just wondering. 1 600W vs. 2 400W? *kettle/pot*

 

[BCtrippin]

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/181984-2-x-600w-hps-vs.html

I dont want to keep highjacking this thread. I made another poll to end this once and for all. Please no petty name calling or acting like a child. Serious arguments only please!!

Thanks..

 

[9inch bigbud]

You just dont get it do you. Your pics only prove that you dont know what your doing. If you did you would yield more with 2 x 600w vs 1 x 1000w.

LOL i know what im doing if i hit over 120o grans from a 1000w and know i hit over a 1000grams on 2x600w's why dont you belive me? i dont give a flying fuck i get the best out of my grows. iv seen your grows with the suposadly the best thing since slice bread. I can tell you know its all hype! iv used it over 10 years ago vitalink is better and the reson its better is the light u shine down on it FACT!

 

[BCtrippin]

LOL i know what im doing if i hit over 120o grans from a 1000w and know i hit over a 1000grams on 2x600w's why dont you belive me? i dont give a flying fuck i get the best out of my grows. iv seen your grows with the suposadly the best thing since slice bread. I can tell you know its all hype! iv used it over 10 years ago vitalink is better and the reson its better is the light u shine down on it FACT!

Its pretty funny how close minded and ignorant you are. Anyways I made a new thread because I seriously dont want to continue hijacking this thread.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/181984-2-x-600w-hps-vs.html

I just want to get the Facts out for new people. Theres Way too much disinformation being spread on this site.

If you respond to this here then your arguing with yourself...

 

[mindphuk]

LOL i know what im doing if i hit over 120o grans from a 1000w and know i hit over a 1000grams on 2x600w's why dont you belive me? i dont give a flying fuck i get the best out of my grows. iv seen your grows with the suposadly the best thing since slice bread. I can tell you know its all hype! iv used it over 10 years ago vitalink is better and the reson its better is the light u shine down on it FACT!

So you are basically saying that you were unable to get 1g/watt with 600w lamps and that shows either you didn't do something right since other experienced growers are able to get those yields. You possibly could have had more plants under those 600s and didn't utilize their full footprint or something else could have been different, but either way, you didn't maximize the potential of your 600 watters so you blamed it on them instead of looking at what you could change.

 

[9inch bigbud]

iv seen 2 lines of each of your posts and fucked you off *bye*

 

[BCtrippin]

iv seen 2 lines of each of your posts and fucked you off *bye*

Its funny how you get angry. Your clearly know your wrong so you just get pissed off and bitter instead of admitting you were wrong in the first place.

Maybe if you actually read all of every post before coming up with your ridiculous replies you wouldnt be so pissed off.

 

[laserbrn]

Its funny how you get angry. Your clearly know your wrong so you just get pissed off and bitter instead of admitting you were wrong in the first place.

Maybe if you actually read all of every post before coming up with your ridiculous replies you wouldnt be so pissed off.

I think it's funny that those that haven't grown with both act like they know better than someone that consistently grows with both.

9" thanks for giving an ACTUAL answer to this question from your GROWING experience. You don't have to "defend" your EXPERIENCE against the speculation of someone who doesn't know.

 

[mindphuk]

I think it's funny that those that haven't grown with both act like they know better than someone that consistently grows with both.

9" thanks for giving an ACTUAL answer to this question from your GROWING experience. You don't have to "defend" your EXPERIENCE against the speculation of someone who doesn't know.

Dude, give it up. There are plenty of 600 watt growers, including myself and many experts that are able to get similar g/watt ratios as 1000 watt growers, so just because neither of you can't do it, don't blame the bulb.

I admit that I don't have enough grows under my belt to have it tuned in and producing at the highest efficiency but there are plenty of other grow journals that are. In addition to knowing that physics is on my side (more photons = more yield if you can use those photons without wasting them), I also know how to read and would rather listen to people that actually are doing it rather than listen to people say it's impossible.

 

[laserbrn]

Dude, give it up. There are plenty of 600 watt growers, including myself and many experts that are able to get similar g/watt ratios as 1000 watt growers, so just because neither of you can't do it, don't blame the bulb.

I admit that I don't have enough grows under my belt to have it tuned in and producing at the highest efficiency but there are plenty of other grow journals that are. In addition to knowing that physics is on my side (more photons = more yield if you can use those photons without wasting them), I also know how to read and would rather listen to people that actually are doing it rather than listen to people say it's impossible.

So, prove it to me. Show me the grow journals. You haven't shown anything. Obviously you don't have a full understanding a physics. More photons does not mean more yeild. Otherwise CFL's would stomp HID's, we've been over this.

Where is this information you have read? Where are these grows that you've compared 1000w to 600w?

 

[BCtrippin]

So, prove it to me. Show me the grow journals. You haven't shown anything. Obviously you don't have a full understanding a physics. More photons does not mean more yeild. Otherwise CFL's would stomp HID's, we've been over this.

Where is this information you have read? Where are these grows that you've compared 1000w to 600w?

So what exactly do you think happens when you grow with 2 x 600w HPS lights?

You think it turns out like a single 600w grow?

Have you not seen some of the Amazing single 600w grows on this site? Picture that x 2. You cant replicate that with a single 1000w light.


And I actually have grown with 600s, but I currently only run 1000w lights. I can tell you first hand. 2 x 600w lights can and will yield more than 1 x 1000w light.


Theres no comparison. Just you and your feeble understanding of light.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/181984-2-x-600w-hps-vs-2.html

I made a thread so you dont have to continue to highjack this one....or are you not wanting to post there because 9inch_bigbud is the ONLY fucking person to vote that a 1000w will beat 2 x 600w.....

 

[laserbrn]

So what exactly do you think happens when you grow with 2 x 600w HPS lights?

You think it turns out like a single 600w grow?

Have you not seen some of the Amazing single 600w grows on this site? Picture that x 2. You cant replicate that with a single 1000w light.


And I actually have grown with 600s, but I currently only run 1000w lights. I can tell you first hand. 2 x 600w lights can and will yield more than 1 x 1000w light.


Theres no comparison. Just you and your feeble understanding of light.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/181984-2-x-600w-hps-vs-2.html

I made a thread so you dont have to continue to highjack this one....or are you not wanting to post there because 9inch_bigbud is the ONLY fucking person to vote that a 1000w will beat 2 x 600w.....

Creating a new thread was pointless, seeing as how this discussion is finally on this topic. Spent days and days off topic and finally got back on the right topic and you start a new thread...haha.