earthworms

crazestealthgrower

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just a question of interest.

i was thinking about earth worms.

back in highschool one of my old ecology teachers and i was talking about earth worms and soil.

what would earth worms do to my soil if i had one in there.

i was told that earth worms naturally are good for soil because they basically eat it and shit out good soil because you know shit basically nitrogen rich.


just asking not saying i am doing it. just a question of interest. :wall:
 

Anonononymous

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They improve the structure and aeration of the soil, the little tunnels they make allow roots to get air.
Worm castings are nitrogen rich, really good for your plants. Stick a few worms in your soil and they'll breed and improve the soil, which normally means better bud 8-)
 

crazestealthgrower

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They improve the structure and aeration of the soil, the little tunnels they make allow roots to get air.
Worm castings are nitrogen rich, really good for your plants. Stick a few worms in your soil and they'll breed and improve the soil, which normally means better bud 8-)

nice. i was just thinking about it and it seemed to click logically.

guess ill go dig some up in the back yard or wait till it rains or somthing.
 

BigBudBalls

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Worms for an indoor grow are close to pointless (though won't cause harm)

The N they give is great fro veg, but rather not have extra N for flowering (gives that nasty chem taste) They can eat some of the stuff your plants want/need.

Better off making a worm farm to generate worm castings separate from your plants.

The aeration factor? well, a properly mixed soil shouldn't need more.
 

crazestealthgrower

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ok thanks i was just asking. i haven't done it and most likely wont because they are indoor.

so far my plants are growing great pretty short and thick but thats the way i want them to grow right now.

i have topped all four of them.
plus i have some seedlings.

im also about to get a clone that goes by the name Light Afy guessing Light Afghany do you know anything about that strain.
 

Anonononymous

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Like BigBud said, they're pretty unnecessary for an indoor grow, providing you have pearlite/vermiculite or something else in the soil to improve aeration and drainage, and yeah, having your own worm farm is a good idea as you can collect the casts which are rich in nutrients. It's pretty cool watching them making their own tunnel system too.
 

Kriegs

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I wouldn't use worms in an indoor grow. Most worm species (there are many many many...) require very cool temperatures (~60 F or less) for the vast majority of their life cycle. Your soil temp in pots won't be anywhere near that low. They only tolerate higher temps to feed and seek out mates, and then only briefly.

Since we're just talking worms in general here: Worms outdoors are great for most of the things we like to grow -- veggies, MJ, ornamental flowers. For our natural forest communities, they're a disaster. Virtually all worms in North America are non-native -- they've come over from Asia, and have really fucked up the natural soil ecology of N. American forests. Just some fun factoids...

Worms in indoor pots will provide extra N alright... in the form of dead worms and a fuckin' stink you can't imagine until you've smelled it (it'll cover the dank off your plants, tho... I guarantee!!).
 

crazestealthgrower

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I wouldn't use worms in an indoor grow. Most worm species (there are many many many...) require very cool temperatures (~60 F or less) for the vast majority of their life cycle. Your soil temp in pots won't be anywhere near that low. They only tolerate higher temps to feed and seek out mates, and then only briefly.

Since we're just talking worms in general here: Worms outdoors are great for most of the things we like to grow -- veggies, MJ, ornamental flowers. For our natural forest communities, they're a disaster. Virtually all worms in North America are non-native -- they've come over from Asia, and have really fucked up the natural soil ecology of N. American forests. Just some fun factoids...

Worms in indoor pots will provide extra N alright... in the form of dead worms and a fuckin' stink you can't imagine until you've smelled it (it'll cover the dank off your plants, tho... I guarantee!!).

yea i know dead worms stink i fish alot a real lot.

ever smelled night crawlers that have been sittning out in the sun for 2 weeks in one of those blue containers.
they basically melt lol.
instant gag lol.
 

Kriegs

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yea i know dead worms stink i fish alot a real lot.

ever smelled night crawlers that have been sittning out in the sun for 2 weeks in one of those blue containers.
they basically melt lol.
instant gag lol.
Sure have... that's how I learned about the decay habits of worms... yikes.
 

marsattack

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hey guys i cannot claim expertise in horticulture but ill tel you a little story. 1st grow was as amateur as it can get. no perlites no proper ventilation fans no humidity regulators. a closet set up, 600 hps and organic soil from tmy garden.organic cultivation i would like to think it as:) the germination happened in two batches. 1st batch i made a big mistake which was not cooking the soil bfr using it which resulted in unwanted inhibitors in my pots. 2nd batch was done properly.( well on 1st grow i think we all share the same excitment which sometimes does not allow prper critical thinking and so mistakes are born) as i noticed the first batch along with the undesired pests had earth worms in it 2. 2nd one needless to say it didnt. now the plants in the first batch manifested an outstandig rate of growth comparing to the second 1. same lighting conditions and nutrition. so i could find no other reason for that other than our little friends there. as u mentioned before they do make tunnels which allow roots to breath and they do poop highly nutritious poop which can do nothing but good to your plants especially if your going organic. now im no fisherman and do not know anth about decomposing worm bait stench but what i do know is that your worms will not die out of the temperature ( which in any case would not be that hot or else along with the worms your plants will burn also)anw at lights on hours the worm reside at the bottom of the pots where is more moist and cooler. they will not go out on the surface to sunbathe. nor will the nitrogen rich poop they produce will have the chemical effect on the flavor or anth else ( as mentioned above)unless ur growing ur babys in a pot of exclusive worm shit or something. now i wouldnt go so far as to advise ppls to shove a bucketfull of worms in theyr pots but a few will do nothing but good to your plants and notisably. worms are good and thumbs up for them! jah wid u ppls
 

Kriegs

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That's interesting. As with many things, I could be wrong. I've never measured the soil temp in my pots, so it might be cooler down there than I think.

I like your comment about first-grow excitement interrupting critical thinking -- I think of myself as pretty mentally able, and yet the mistakes I made in my first grow were SO stupid!
 

dj crane

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That's interesting. As with many things, I could be wrong. I've never measured the soil temp in my pots, so it might be cooler down there than I think.

I like your comment about first-grow excitement interrupting critical thinking -- I think of myself as pretty mentally able, and yet the mistakes I made in my first grow were SO stupid!


I was just so happy something grew, i coulden't beleve it, let alone think criticaly,loli am enjoying this thread on worms as it has addressed alot of questions i had but have never asked, thank you all!!
 
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