1000 hps vs. 2x 400 hps?

BCtrippin

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Creating a new thread was pointless, seeing as how this discussion is finally on this topic. Spent days and days off topic and finally got back on the right topic and you start a new thread...haha.
Dude have you ever read the Original post. 1000w vs 2 x 600w for efficiency is WAY off topic for this thread......

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9inch bigbud

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So you are basically saying that you were unable to get 1g/watt with 600w lamps and that shows either you didn't do something right since other experienced growers are able to get those yields. You possibly could have had more plants under those 600s and didn't utilize their full footprint or something else could have been different, but either way, you didn't maximize the potential of your 600 watters so you blamed it on them instead of looking at what you could change.
no it means its easyer it hit over 1gpw more like 1.25GPW using 1 x 1000w than it is using 2x600s plants grow 3d not 2d or flat canopy.
 

Mcgician

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no it means its easyer it hit over 1gpw more like 1.25GPW using 1 x 1000w than it is using 2x600s plants grow 3d not 2d or flat canopy.
Even after all the extremely poignant and detailed posts in this thread, that one seems to speak in plant language extremely well. I've heard and seen facts from both sides in this debate, and the discussion has been not only enlightening, but entertaining. I'd be hard pressed, even after all this, to say one method was better than the other. I think there's a multitude of factors that go into an experiment like this, and the only way to truly measure it would be to conduct it like any quality controlled science experiment- factoring in every and ALL margins for error. I hope this thread inspires somebody to do exactly that, and we can all benefit from it.
 

9inch bigbud

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Another red-herring. Wow, you really like using those fallacies.

Hint: CFLs are not HPS, different type and spectrum of light, not to mention CFLs are not point source light so comparison to HPS is invalid as has been discussed many, many times on the various CFL threads.

So you still didn't answer his question. How can a single 150K lumen lamp outperform 2 lamps producing 180-190K lumens (of identical type)? If the room is setup correctly to where the light from 2 lamps wouldn't be wasted by too much overlap, then there is no reason an experience grower couldn't manage to get bigger yields from the 2 lamp setup. Sure, the individual plants will not be as big as under the 1000w one but you would be able to cover more space and add more plants to make up for it. If you or laserbum couldn't do it, don't blame the lamps but the technique or the room.
you answered you own question
Hint: CFLs are not HPS, different type and spectrum of light, not to mention CFLs are not point source light so comparison to HPS is invalid as has been discussed many, many times on the various CFL threads.
we are using HPS lights the same as if it was only CFL's just more wattage! we know adding smaller lights does not grow more bud than 1 bigger lamp penetration is the key putting 2x600 in a 4x4 room will not grow more bud than if you put a 1000w in there. light is light as you know your self adding smaller lights does not equal the same yeild as 1 bigger light, be it LED, CFL's, MH or HPS. adding smaller watage bulbs up to the same watage as the larger bulb will not grow more! have seen the difference what 1000w cola looks like compared to a 600w cola? i can tell you the 1000w is bigger and more solid when you try to crush it!= heavy buds
 

9inch bigbud

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So you're getting 2.5 pounds per 1000w in a 4x4 area? Impressive.
yes i have done some ppl get more. iv not got that using 600s in any room configuration its easyer to hit gpw under a 1000w than it his under a 600w or 2x600s its the penetration i put it down to. im not trying to bull shit anyone I agree on paper the 2x600s should kick arse but i cant get them to do it like i can with the 1000w covering the same area watt for watt even though my 2x600 room puts down 66.6 watts per square foot and my 1000w puts down only 62.5 watts psf. 1 point source of light over a given area is better than 2 points of light in the same area up to or near the same wattage
 

BCtrippin

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yes i have done some ppl get more. iv not got that using 600s in any room configuration its easyer to hit gpw under a 1000w than it his under a 600w or 2x600s its the penetration i put it down to. im not trying to bull shit anyone I agree on paper the 2x600s should kick arse but i cant get them to do it like i can with the 1000w covering the same area watt for watt even though my 2x600 room puts down 66.6 watts per square foot and my 1000w puts down only 62.5 watts psf.
You couldnt hit 2.5 lbs per 1000w light if your fucking life depended on it....You just lost All credibility.

And wet weight doesnt count. :roll:

If your hitting 2.5 lbs per 1000w light then you would be hitting 3lbs easily with 2 x 600w light and would be here ranting and raving about how good 600s are. But all you have is pictures that you probably found online.


I would Love to see some proof of your claims of 2.5 lbs in a 4x4 room under 1000w light....lol.


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9inch bigbud

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You couldnt hit 2.5 lbs per 1000w light if your fucking life depended on it....You just lost All credibility.

And wet weight doesnt count. :roll:

If your hitting 2.5 lbs per 1000w light then you would be hitting 3lbs easily with 2 x 600w light and would be here ranting and raving about how good 600s are. But all you have is pictures that you probably found online.


I would Love to see some proof of your claims of 2.5 lbs in a 4x4 room under 1000w light....lol.


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LOL go away:roll: 1gpw is 1000g 2.2 lb i have hit 1.2 gpw you dont know how to grow then m8 look around ppl get even more!:sleep:

LOL they are my pics m8 if you look you will see the 2x600w room in one pic where i show the 1000w plant on its own you will see the scrog screen poles they are to the right of the plant that has #14 and you can see #10 on the back look to the left and you will see i have blacked out my refection from the mylar.

because you cant do it does not mean someone else cant change your 600s to 1000s and ditch advance nutes then you might get a chance:lol:

look you can see the 2x600w scrog poles to the right



scrog grow look botom left pic see the poles does it look the same as the above pic?



1000w room

 

BCtrippin

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because you cant do it does not mean someone else cant change your 600s to 1000s and ditch advance nutes then you might get a chance:lol:
I said YOU cant. I dont see 2.5 lbs being grown under a 1000w light there, sorry.

Any proof that those pics are really yours? It seems that you have posted the exact same 6 pics about 20 times...

Im seriously starting to doubt that you even have a grow. If you did you wouldnt be making ridiculous and absurd claims in the face of Reality.

What is it like 25/4 in the poll and you still think 1 x 1000w is better then 2 x 600w?

Dude its just You. If you knew what you were doing you would be claiming that 2 x 600 will beat 1000w any day of the week because it will unless you have no clue what your doing.


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easygrinder

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i gotta say though that if your name came to you after looking at your plants i bet you have a string of ex girlfriends suing you for false advertising:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

9inch bigbud

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I said YOU cant. I dont see 2.5 lbs being grown under a 1000w light there, sorry.

Any proof that those pics are really yours? It seems that you have posted the exact same 6 pics about 20 times...

Im seriously starting to doubt that you even have a grow. If you did you wouldnt be making ridiculous and absurd claims in the face of Reality.

What is it like 25/4 in the poll and you still think 1 x 1000w is better then 2 x 600w?

Dude its just You. If you knew what you were doing you would be claiming that 2 x 600 will beat 1000w any day of the week because it will unless you have no clue what your doing.


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i agree on paper 2x600w should kick arse over a 1000w but how many of the ppl that voted have grown the 2 side by side? polls are wrong polls are just opinions not facts and pove nothing what so ever!

I dont see 2.5 lbs being grown under a 1000w light there, sorry.
the number 79 in the top left was dry yeild from plant #14 i had 16 plant in that room it about the best evidence your going to get over the net unless you do it your self!
 

9inch bigbud

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i gotta say though that if your name came to you after looking at your plants i bet you have a string of ex girlfriends suing you for false advertising:lol::lol::lol::lol:
should have been 18" big bud porn star have 9" cocks the meaning of the name is a joke as in the avarage cock is 6" mine is bigger than yours
 

easygrinder

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i have and 2 600's kick a 1k's ass,

the whole point your basing this on is that a 1k is more intense and you can never get that intensity with a 600.

well if you get yourself the biggest most bad ass reflector and get that light spread out over a decent distance you still gotta have it further away than a 600w, so much to the point where 2 600s covering that 4ft sq will give better light intensity on every square foot and give better light penetration than a single bulb can because light doesn't pass through leaves and with 2 bulbs covering more angles you get a lot better light penetration
 

9inch bigbud

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i have and 2 600's kick a 1k's ass,

the whole point your basing this on is that a 1k is more intense and you can never get that intensity with a 600.

well if you get yourself the biggest most bad ass reflector and get that light spread out over a decent distance you still gotta have it further away than a 600w, so much to the point where 2 600s covering that 4ft sq will give better light intensity on every square foot and give better light penetration than a single bulb can because light doesn't pass through leaves and with 2 bulbs covering more angles you get a lot better light penetration
ROLF! show us proof:roll: please do you get more than 2.2lbs from your grow?!
 

easygrinder

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i don't need to play the who's cock is bigger, i'm just stating facts the way it is, i don't need a pissing match with you at all, i know what i know from experience
 

9inch bigbud

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i don't need to play the who's cock is bigger, i'm just stating facts the way it is, i don't need a pissing match with you at all, i know what i know from experience
do you? then you should know that 1200w is hotter than 1000w you can not destroy heat, if you have 1 bar on a fire burning 1000w and 2 bars burning 2x600w the room with 2x600w will get hotter than the fire burning 1000w:roll: the heat will just not be felt form the fire the further away are.?

im not play who's cock is bigger my name was ment as a joke but my buds are bigger under a 1000w than under 2x600w in the same area watt for watt
 

easygrinder

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thats fair enough your entitled to your opinion, you obviously haven't spent enough time playing around with things to work out how to get the best out of the equipment, with some experience though you will get more experimental and figure out how to make 2 600's work for you, i can tell you now though that you may get bigger colas with a 1k, but over all weight across the board, if your doing it right 2 600's will out yield 1k

i extract my grow room so the general heat of the room isn't the issue, its the distance from the bulb to the plant tops because it doesn't matter how you cool it you can't hold your hand as near to the bulb with a 1k as you can with a 600 and thats the heat i'm talking about
 
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