How Many Christians On This Site?

Stoney McFried

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OK...but then you had the wrong idea about what you were doing.Let me guess, you tell me if I'm way off. You maybe were rebellious, kind of an oddball perhaps.Not popular,angsty. You wanted power.You wanted importance.Am I on track?
Not by itself for a lot, but at that young age it led to escalation for me. I wanted to see more.
 

LandofZion

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No cats, just messing with weak minds was fun enough to put it in a small nut shell. It was all long ago. My point was it led me to be a christian, like it or not
 

NewGrowth

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oh, really? he wrote it? really?

care to show us a reputable resource link stating this? i would b very interested in seeing it.

wow, constantine wrote 2/3 of the new testament... </rolling eyes>
Who wrote it then? Council of Nicea is taught in Church history.
 

LandofZion

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OK...but then you had the wrong idea about what you were doing.Let me guess, you tell me if I'm way off. You maybe were rebellious, kind of an oddball perhaps.Not popular,angsty. You wanted power.You wanted importance.Am I on track?
No, more of the jock that played with punkers. Rebellious yes, popular over confident even. No angst and no afterthoughts of my actions because I was fearless. And the power felt wasn't your run of the mill power.
 

hom36rown

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you were a jock that liked quija board and tarot cards huh.. Oh yeah, we had tons of jocks like that at my High school lol, jk.
 

Babs34

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Since the Bible cannot show that Christ ever lived, it's kind of funny to see ppl insist he is everywhere..... considering if that myth was true, he is doing a rather piss poor job. I can hardly think he would approve of all the killing in his name. Now there's your truly wicked folks.


out. :blsmoke:
LOL Cracker, this isn't the second or even third time I have seen you post regarding religion.......and I'm trying ever so hard not to ever debate Christianity. For me, it's just no debate.
When you have a point, you have a point, however. Christ does NOT approve of killing in HIS name.......and those who do ARE truly wicked.
 

Stoney McFried

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Ok.Well, I was raised a Jehovah's witness. So, a Christian. I was a dork in middle school, the witchcraft was a way to scare folks off.But this was shit I did as a 12 year old. As I grew, the logical next step for me was not Christianity. I had no real understanding of ANY religion, like many folks who follow a religion don't.I just listened to the rumors and falsifications,I was young. But as I grew, I really began to delve into these things, to get a better understanding. See, Christians are generally labeled as "good" and Pagans "bad".But if you actually learn a little more, you realize that the Pagans don't run around forcing their religion on anyone, nor do they tell folks they will be punished for non belief. They don't try to control people's thoughts(the true ones, not the dabblers),and they recognize that there are many different paths. Christians that I've met are all so damn rigid,clinging zealously to their dogma,and trying desperately to eradicate free thought by threatening eternal damnation for deviation from the prescribed path.So...in my eyes, the labels could most definately be transposed.And the King James version of the Bible is just that...King James' interpretation of it.:peace:
No cats, just messing with weak minds was fun enough to put it in a small nut shell. It was all long ago. My point was it led me to be a christian, like it or not
 

CrackerJax

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Constantine was no dummy, he picked Christianity because if folks were willing to believe that the worse their earthly life was the greater the reward upon death.... well... connect the dots...it's a perfect religion for those in charge of it. Life is hard and unfair? Don't worry, you'll be first in line AFTER you die here... PERFECT!!! :lol: Constantine probably giggled himself silly when he researched Christianity. A carny couldn't have come up with a better scam. :clap:


Don't worry, it will all be revealed AFTER you die.... :lol:

out. :blsmoke:
 

Stoney McFried

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So you felt superior? Like you were special?(I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just discussing.) Then you had no idea of what Pagans are about.Yes, there are some who think only of themselves and try to manipulate for the wrong purposes,but for the most part,they live and let live. I'm sorry, but I would have to ask for proof of your power, and seeing as you are a Christian, you couldn't oblige me.
No, more of the jock that played with punkers. Rebellious yes, popular over confident even. No angst and no afterthoughts of my actions because I was fearless. And the power felt wasn't your run of the mill power.
 

LandofZion

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Ok.Well, I was raised a Jehovah's witness. So, a Christian. I was a dork in middle school, the witchcraft was a way to scare folks off.But this was shit I did as a 12 year old. As I grew, the logical next step for me was not Christianity. I had no real understanding of ANY religion, like many folks who follow a religion don't.I just listened to the rumors and falsifications,I was young. But as I grew, I really began to delve into these things, to get a better understanding. See, Christians are generally labeled as "good" and Pagans "bad".But if you actually learn a little more, you realize that the Pagans don't run around forcing their religion on anyone, nor do they tell folks they will be punished for non belief. They don't try to control people's thoughts(the true ones, not the dabblers),and they recognize that there are many different paths. Christians that I've met are all so damn rigid,clinging zealously to their dogma,and trying desperately to eradicate free thought by threatening eternal damnation for deviation from the prescribed path.So...in my eyes, the labels could most definately be transposed.And the King James version of the Bible is just that...King James' interpretation of it.:peace:
I understand what you are saying. But when I delved into the black side of things with more experienced, using the necronomican it was no longer just pagan it was channeling evil. Hence, i was lucky to find christ. It works for me and it is the path of belief I have choosen to follow after feeling rotten evil. I wont even act embarrased for my beiefs. They have made me a better person, more friendly and personible.
 

Babs34

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yes, but all folks who believe in the Bible have been 100% fooled. An awful lot of folks believe in the Bible stuff. I am not a Christian basher tho, i can just as easily throw Islam under the bus as well.

I have a problem with CULT religions, and Christianity and Islam top the list. It's a manipulation of a most heinous nature.


out. :blsmoke:
It's the "religion" I don't mind bashing.....hypocritical at best. Relgion is man made though.
Now, you can not "just as easily" bash Christianity Cracker......for the "religion" itself preaches wonderful and pure beliefs. Now, when one actually takes the REAL time to read the quran, you SEE quite the OPPOSITE with islam. Jesus, mohammad.......with only one do you have a choice. I believe there are "cults" within Christianity. Yet, "Christianity" was supposed to be a following that is rarely adhered to within ANY "religion."
 

Stoney McFried

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I'm not trying to make you embarrassed,I'm just saying that if you really insist on believing something, you should really learn about it.Get a copy of the old testament and compare it to the new.....why would an omnipotent being do a rewrite?
I understand what you are saying. But when I delved into the black side of things with more experienced, using the necronomican it was no longer just pagan it was channeling evil. Hence, i was lucky to find christ. It works for me and it is the path of belief I have choosen to follow after feeling rotten evil. I wont even act embarrased for my beiefs. They have made me a better person, more friendly and personible.
 

CrackerJax

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Which bible Stoney...which edition? who wrote the first bible? How many times has it been edited and translated? The Bible has gone from a home made country stew to campbell's in a can, with everyone INSISTING it's just as good.


out. :blsmoke:
 

LandofZion

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I'm not trying to make you embarrassed,I'm just saying that if you really insist on believing something, you should really learn about it.Get a copy of the old testament and compare it to the new.....why would an omnipotent being do a rewrite?
I love the old testiment. Brutal reading but pretty cool storys. The bible is a book of parables. It gives you a basis of what was, what happened and what will be. And the ending can be bad or good based on choices you make and if you acknowledge your sins and behavior.
Try writing a book nowdays about just say our presidency. Think all the facts would line up for every naysayer? People would pick it apart too. I dont go to every post and defend christianity and it's many forms but based on sue's title i felt fine. I even explained how I found christ and why. Other than more verbal lashings from people who don't agree, what else is there for me to say? I stand comfortable and solid as a christian
 

Stoney McFried

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Just to take the opposite side...here are some of the "wonderful and pure beliefs" from the Bible.
Slavery:


However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)




Rape




Numbers 31:7-18 NLT
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

Deuteronomy 20:10-14
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her

Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.



Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."



Misogyny


[FONT=arial, helvetica]"And a man will choose...any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman...Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die" Ecclesiasticus, 25:18, 19 & 33. 1[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, helvetica]And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." Ecclesiastes 7:26, from the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament)[/FONT]

"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I don't permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner"
(I Timothy 2:11-14).



"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).


"If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her saying, 'I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,' …and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of the town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)




"A bad wife brings humiliation, downcast looks, and a wounded heart. Slack of hand and weak of knee is the man whose wife fails to make him happy. Woman is the origin of sin, and it is through her that we all die. Do not leave a leaky cistern to drip or allow a bad wife to say what she likes. If she does not accept your control, divorce her and send her away" (Ecclesiasticus 25:25).


"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?" (1 Cor. 14:33b-36 NIV).


The bible is full of them...but I'm sure you get it.


It's the "religion" I don't mind bashing.....hypocritical at best. Relgion is man made though.
Now, you can not "just as easily" bash Christianity Cracker......for the "religion" itself preaches wonderful and pure beliefs. Now, when one actually takes the REAL time to read the quran, you SEE quite the OPPOSITE with islam. Jesus, mohammad.......with only one do you have a choice. I believe there are "cults" within Christianity. Yet, "Christianity" was supposed to be a following that is rarely adhered to within ANY "religion."
 

NewGrowth

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Well if its anything like Church then I'm going to hell where I can smoke my herb. bongsmilie
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CrackerJax

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It's the "religion" I don't mind bashing.....hypocritical at best. Relgion is man made though.
Now, you can not "just as easily" bash Christianity Cracker......for the "religion" itself preaches wonderful and pure beliefs. Now, when one actually takes the REAL time to read the quran, you SEE quite the OPPOSITE with islam. Jesus, mohammad.......with only one do you have a choice. I believe there are "cults" within Christianity. Yet, "Christianity" was supposed to be a following that is rarely adhered to within ANY "religion."
if you look objectively at western history, it has been Christianity which was the impetus for exploration. We have historically "imposed" Christianity on every society we dominated. One need only look to modern"missionary" work of "spreading the word" to see that it is quite simply a CULT.... Oh, but not MY branch....well all branches come from the same tree...a tree of cultism. The exact same problem comes from Islam, and if you look around, it is the clashes of religious difference which create the flash points of global conflict. Wonderful....

I'm not bashing it, just telling it like it is. If bashing is the best description for the truth...so be it. Amen?? :lol:

out. :blsmoke:
 
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