from reading other sites where people are complaining it looks like they took people for 10's of thousands of dollars. Most people that got ripped are too embarrassed to admit to it....in general anyway. These guys could have easily cleared 100k if statistics hold true to this case as well.would have made more sense to send out the orders and make more money. no?
I call bullshit. I have been on their forums for quite some time. There's a max of about 5 people that have been waiting for clones after paying. Add a few more that may have not posted in the forum but I think the amount of money they received without shipping is less than $1000.from reading other sites where people are complaining it looks like they took people for 10's of thousands of dollars. Most people that got ripped are too embarrassed to admit to it....in general anyway. These guys could have easily cleared 100k if statistics hold true to this case as well.
Dude there is no way they made 10s of thousands of dollars...they only conducted business a little over 1 month ...... about 20-30 people ordered from them.....they only shipped out orders of 3 clone at a time or $125.....from reading other sites where people are complaining it looks like they took people for 10's of thousands of dollars. Most people that got ripped are too embarrassed to admit to it....in general anyway. These guys could have easily cleared 100k if statistics hold true to this case as well.
I am not referring to their forum web site....earlier in the thread I linked to a few places where it was being discussed....there are plenty of other sites where it is being discussed as well. Less than a thousand is a joke, I personally know of a "group" of people that lost almost 2k with them and believe me they are not posting and bitching about it.I call bullshit. I have been on their forums for quite some time. There's a max of about 5 people that have been waiting for clones after paying. Add a few more that may have not posted in the forum but I think the amount of money they received without shipping is less than $1000.
I am not referring to their forum web site....earlier in the thread I linked to a few places where it was being discussed....there are plenty of other sites where it is being discussed as well. Less than a thousand is a joke, I personally know of a "group" of people that lost almost 2k with them and believe me they are not posting and bitching about it.
Yea, sure.I am not referring to their forum web site....earlier in the thread I linked to a few places where it was being discussed....there are plenty of other sites where it is being discussed as well. Less than a thousand is a joke, I personally know of a "group" of people that lost almost 2k with them and believe me they are not posting and bitching about it.
yes, and the same three people have conversations all over those forums. I'm willing to bet they are the same person, if I wanted to scam you into thinking everything was on the up and up that's what I would do.......
simple fact is anyone stupid enough to openly claim they ship such parcels to the US only is on borrowed time, and the people stupid enough to fall for it deserve to lose their money. you dont see legitimate seedbacks advertising the fact they ship to the US if they do..... why? because they like staying in business. oh yeah, and they're not fucking retarded. /facepalm
all they have to do is send cuttings to a few people who will sing their praises in order to obtain the false legitimacy they require to pull off their scam. everyone else is fucked. if you cant see whats going on, by all means, order. and order lots.
And make what....$ 1000-1500..... get for real......yes, and the same three people have conversations all over those forums. I'm willing to bet they are the same person, if I wanted to scam you into thinking everything was on the up and up that's what I would do.......
simple fact is anyone stupid enough to openly claim they ship such parcels to the US only is on borrowed time, and the people stupid enough to fall for it deserve to lose their money. you dont see legitimate seedbacks advertising the fact they ship to the US if they do..... why? because they like staying in business. oh yeah, and they're not fucking retarded. /facepalm
all they have to do is send cuttings to a few people who will sing their praises in order to obtain the false legitimacy they require to pull off their scam. everyone else is fucked. if you cant see whats going on, by all means, order. and order lots.
actually they took it at just the right time If you ask me. I don't think I'd want to prolong a PUBLIC scam involving the shipment of live marijuana clones within the boundaries of the United States....
Use your head, we shouldnt even be having this discussion. Taking a chance on a seedbank is one thing. This...... well... yeah, like I said before.... simply stupid. Anyone who ordered should have been still-born. People that stupid should not be allowed to share the air I breath. lol
If you're stupid enough to think the only people who fell for this are the ones posting, you're dumber than I gave you credit for. I can pretty much guarantee most of the people who have been scammed have not poked their head up to admit it, especially on something like this. Most wont. Lets say for example 100 people, total, order the "special" and get fucked........And make what.... $1500 get for real
Again, I am not saying it was/is a scam.....I don't know the best way to "milk" people when running a scam. What I do know is there were more than just a thousand or so dollars worth clones that didn't ship. The group of people that I am aware of first hand are part of ASA, I will see if I can convince one of them to register here and chime in. The limiting of the amount you can order is brilliant, with any business (legit or not) you need to give a perception that your product is in demand more than it really is, thus the limit. Actually adds to the "legit" feel if you ask me. All I am saying is there are more people out there that didn't receive anything and have not been posting or complaining...that is all. Typically when any scam is run in the real world less than 10% come forward and admit they got duped.But other things don't add up. If it was a scam, they took their payoff, way too early. I mean, they disappeared for a week, then they were back, then gone again. A scammer wouldn't have tipped it off like that and they had plenty of time to get more money. There were only a handful of people that were waiting more than 2 weeks, and since they tell everyone to expect 2 weeks, they could have waited much longer taking more payments.
Also, some people wanted to order larger amounts and they wouldn't allow it. I was told that only 1 grand opening order could be made in order to have enough cuttings to go around. Why would they limit themselves to only $125 per address if they were trying to rip people off? BTW, I was told this within a week of them vanishing, IOW it isn't something they did early on to bait the hook. Now if APE is involved, that's a problem because some people know his true identity since they too have done business with them. I don't know if he has shown up on any boards since this happened but he could have been a link for LE to follow.
Also, there are more than a few people that can be verified living in other areas of the country that got their shipments. If they were sending real cuttings, they had plenty of time before any of these were flowered, again, if a scam, they closed shop way too early.
and? that makes them smart?Shipping clones in the mail is nothing new man....they sell clones on Craigslist
+ Rep, you get the concept.If you're stupid enough to think the only people who fell for this are the ones posting, you're dumber than I gave you credit for. I can pretty much guarantee most of the people who have been scammed have not poked their head up to admit it, especially on something like this. Most wont. Lets say for example 100 people, total, order the "special" and get fucked........
1 free host website = $0, an hour, two max.
1 scam idea stupid enough to fool those dumber than the creator = $0
100 Idiots = $12,500
Taking their money by selling something they cannot report without incriminating themselves..... Priceless