Iam definitly a noob, help!

thehomierole

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alright so i thru my self into the noob category, seeing ass i belong here haha.
i thought i did enough research, and had learned from mistakes on my first grow attempt. the second i thought i started well off, with better soil, and overall a better looking clone. but now, she seems sad everyday, from about 830-1030am something has been happeining, maybe too much heat, idk all i know is thats the time when she feels sad everyday, and withers/droops. so for the past couple days ive been leaving her in shaded sunlight, and watering every time she looks to dry which is like once a day. basically i need all the help/knowledge i can get. i like to learn, but not the hard way. so help me out before i kill this clone!:wall: (unintentionally)
 
SSP

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Poor girl doesn't look too good! I'm a noob to growing as well and struggling myself so I'll have to let one of the more experienced people answer your question but she does look a might soggy in the picture.
 
thehomierole

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SSP said:
Poor girl doesn't look too good! I'm a noob to growing as well and struggling myself so I'll have to let one of the more experienced people answer your question but she does look a might soggy in the picture.
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she was just watered about 30 min ago since she was withering/drooping., i have a feeling that black pot is creating to much heat, because she always looks good when i take her out the dark spot. but then shitty when i put her in the sun. do you think tommoro i should first take her out, water a little, put her in the shade for a while then slowly put her into the direct sunlight? cuz i notice shes turns sad/heated after taking her into direct sunlight in the morning with no water yet.
 
MaNgOsRoCkWiThMaRyJ

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If your plant is good in the dark/with barely any light... It could be
A) Stressed
B) Where did you get clone? Was it grown indoors? IF so... What was its time schedule?

If you change the time all of a sudden, so say, usually at 2am the light turned on... well if your outside usually the sun doesn't fully blast until 8-9... Which means it's starting 6 hours after it's original start time that it is use to...

Your plant is showing signs of stress... do not water everyday... I only water ever 3 days... with 18 hours of HID Light...
What I think you should do is... Move plant inside next to a window that gets a lot of sun for a week - 2 weeks...see if your problem fixes...
 
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MaNgOsRoCkWiThMaRyJ said:
If your plant is good in the dark/with barely any light... It could be
A) Stressed
B) Where did you get clone? Was it grown indoors? IF so... What was its time schedule?

If you change the time all of a sudden, so say, usually at 2am the light turned on... well if your outside usually the sun doesn't fully blast until 8-9... Which means it's starting 6 hours after it's original start time that it is use to...

Your plant is showing signs of stress... do not water everyday... I only water ever 3 days... with 18 hours of HID Light...
What I think you should do is... Move plant inside next to a window that gets a lot of sun for a week - 2 weeks...see if your problem fixes...
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Then again some people aren't cut out for growing... :weed:
 
thehomierole

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LAX Skunky BwS said:
leafs are curling up and down .. tips look burn .. what type of soil u using?
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im using miracle grow.
SmokeyMcSmokester said:
those pics look a lil heat stressed...what are the outside temps where you live?
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yea thats what im thinking yesterday and previous days were 90 and up, today is actually pretty nice, only 71 and still happened this morning
MaNgOsRoCkWiThMaRyJ said:
If your plant is good in the dark/with barely any light... It could be
A) Stressed
B) Where did you get clone? Was it grown indoors? IF so... What was its time schedule?

If you change the time all of a sudden, so say, usually at 2am the light turned on... well if your outside usually the sun doesn't fully blast until 8-9... Which means it's starting 6 hours after it's original start time that it is use to...

Your plant is showing signs of stress... do not water everyday... I only water ever 3 days... with 18 hours of HID Light...
What I think you should do is... Move plant inside next to a window that gets a lot of sun for a week - 2 weeks...see if your problem fixes...
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okay, yeah i see what your saying. i got the clone at a coop, idk the light schedule.. i have the perfect window, but idk wouldnt it just put it into shock more since its been on the same schedule for about 3 days. should i try that?
 
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thehomierole said:
im pretty sure iam, its just my first time. cut me some slack
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I know man.. Im just kidding with you.. but the sunlight is not as intense through a window... usually with clones your going to want to grow with a few CFLs at first...good luck... and update how they are doing...

EDIT: Also don't touch your plant... a lot of new growers like to do that... Most likely your overwattering/the heat is to intense... cut down on watering unless soil is DRY.. put your finger down into the soil and if you feel moisture it's fine...
 
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MaNgOsRoCkWiThMaRyJ said:
I know man.. Im just kidding with you.. but the sunlight is not as intense through a window... usually with clones your going to want to grow with a few CFLs at first...good luck... and update how they are doing...
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its all good. alright yea, my first clone grow, i would leave it outside and bring it inside under a cfl for the extra four hours of light. but people told me to just leave this one outside and it will be fine. but for some reason everything isnt fine.

i will update for sure, do you think she can pull through? i hate waisting time/ starting over. the last one was a complete failure.
 
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thehomierole said:
its all good. alright yea, my first clone grow, i would leave it outside and bring it inside under a cfl for the extra four hours of light. but people told me to just leave this one outside and it will be fine. but for some reason everything isnt fine.

i will update for sure, do you think she can pull through? i hate waisting time/ starting over. the last one was a complete failure.
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Yeah if the conditions it's under changes... it may be in shock for 1-2 weeks... so don't worry about no new growth for 1-2 weeks...
 
thehomierole

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MaNgOsRoCkWiThMaRyJ said:
Yeah if the conditions it's under changes... it may be in shock for 1-2 weeks... so don't worry about no new growth for 1-2 weeks...
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okay, well if i were to purchase anything what would help? the guy at the hydro store, wanted me to get superthrive, and foxfarm nutes. i have to transplant soon anyways due to lack of root space, what soil would you reccomend. my gramps wants me to use miracle grow, he swears its the best, and hes done alot of growing.
 
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thehomierole said:
okay, well if i were to purchase anything what would help? the guy at the hydro store, wanted me to get superthrive, and foxfarm nutes. i have to transplant soon anyways due to lack of root space, what soil would you reccomend. my gramps wants me to use miracle grow, he swears its the best, and hes done alot of growing.
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lol miracle grow contains chemicals and are for "old ladies" haha but the older generation for some reason loves that blue chemical full of other chemicals... I use General Hydroponics and got the 1st/2nd part which 1st part is for early growth/vegetative... and the 2nd is the bloom for flowering... I myself have never grown outside... but plan to do a Guerilla grow soon... I have a clone inside... in a aeroponic setup... once it grows more roots and gets bigger I will plant outside just into plain dirt... Depending on whether it rains or not I probably won't water for a week at a time... giving it nutes one week and then regular water the next week so there is no nute lockout...


You could build some sort of thing like.. 4 pieces of thin wood... put aluminum foil ontop (acts like a roof) poke holes in the aluminum foil so only some sunlight comes through... that may work...
 
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MaNgOsRoCkWiThMaRyJ said:
lol miracle grow contains chemicals and are for "old ladies" haha but the older generation for some reason loves that blue chemical full of other chemicals... I use General Hydroponics and got the 1st/2nd part which 1st part is for early growth/vegetative... and the 2nd is the bloom for flowering... I myself have never grown outside... but plan to do a Guerilla grow soon... I have a clone inside... in a aeroponic setup... once it grows more roots and gets bigger I will plant outside just into plain dirt... Depending on whether it rains or not I probably won't water for a week at a time... giving it nutes one week and then regular water the next week so there is no nute lockout...


You could build some sort of thing like.. 4 pieces of thin wood... put aluminum foil ontop (acts like a roof) poke holes in the aluminum foil so only some sunlight comes through... that may work...
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okay so miracle grow is a no go? oh okay, yea i would grow indoors but i live in cali why not grow outdoors you know.. so when i change soils how long till i give it nutes?

i have done somthing like this on the previos grow i made a box with foil inside and put the plant in there, under the lamp.. same concept? can i use a normal cardboard box, and use ur idea? do you think this will really make a positive difference outdoors? what is the purpose? just trying to get all the knowledge i can.. thanks.
 
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thehomierole said:
okay so miracle grow is a no go? oh okay, yea i would grow indoors but i live in cali why not grow outdoors you know.. so when i change soils how long till i give it nutes?

i have done somthing like this on the previos grow i made a box with foil inside and put the plant in there, under the lamp.. same concept? can i use a normal cardboard box, and use ur idea? do you think this will really make a positive difference outdoors? what is the purpose? just trying to get all the knowledge i can.. thanks.
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well what im saying is... you know when people have 4 poles and a tarp uptop.. well like that but have aluminum foil uptop and put holes...leave the sides with nothing but whatever your using to hold up the foil... because you want some wind to go through to your plant... so it can cool it down... im saying just do this until your plant gets better and healthier... i live in cali also but I grow inside haha... the purpose of this is so that the plant can have wind and less direct sun ontop... when i say poke holes i mean poke some holes so that your plant gets sunlight but not too much sunlight you know?

also the number one thing i would get if I were you is called "The Cannabis Grow bible" by greg green... tells you everything you need to know about growing inside/outside different strains... trust me its a good investment...
 
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