Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

[born2killspam]

I'd top as you're planning, I'd just let that lowest node wither away unless it was a problem.. I prune when I see a reason to, not when I don't see a reason not to..

 

[by1969]

I read further back that this 4-cola technique will NOT work with alternating nodes. why is that?...they're not that far apart, just an inch or so.

I'd top as you're planning, I'd just let that lowest node wither away unless it was a problem.. I prune when I see a reason to, not when I don't see a reason not to..

 

[born2killspam]

You'll still get more topmost budsites.. Train them as you please if they don't adopt the best position by themselves..

 

[by1969]

You'll still get more topmost budsites.. Train them as you please if they don't adopt the best position by themselves..

Hey borntokill, a little off topic here. What's your opinion on molasses and flushing. I'm at 12-12 day 35. Feeding with the Foxfarm schedule.

 

[born2killspam]

They can help alot if you find yourself in a predicament where you've made some mistakes.. Molasses can't really hurt even if your soil is already loaded with carbs and the microbes are healthy, but I don't flush unless the plant is unhealthy looking as harvest approaches.. IMO if the plant is healthy it will apply what it can to late growth as well as it can what it would otherwise cannibalize if it was flushed, but if the plant is imbalanced somehow, let it cannibalize whats locked up, and you can reduce that ammonia smelling wet resin effect..
A funny thing I've noticed is that effect seems to be predominant in both badly grown weed, and prematurely harvested weed.. Food for thought if your plants look really nice late season, yet flushing seems to make alot of difference..
This is based solely on anecdotal observations from both weed I've grown, and weed I didn't.. I started out following the flushing regimen, but then after a few crops my dad asked me why I'd starve healthy plants, and started going on about how perfect nature is, so I caved and didn't regret it..

 

[by1969]

Thanks for the reply pal. I'm gonna put some pics up tonight...i'll do in on another thread though so you guys can stay on your topic here. If you'd like, check it out and post a comment. thanks again

 

[bdonson]

Here ya go UB pics of a couple of hawaiian maui wowie. about 3weeks old using AN,s nutesand nutrient chart. Foxfarm soil in 1 gal pots for now, treated with MicroKote. Congrats Uncle Ben, when I topped them they never missed a day's growth Cheers

 

[Uncle Ben]

Hey Uncle Ben...I totally understand your concise explanation form the beginning. I have one question which I think I know the answer to, but I'm asking it anyway. (Hopefully it wasn't asked before). I have a nice clone with have 6-7 nodes. The 1st node is right above the soil. The 2nd and 3rd are nice and healthy and strong about 4 and 6 inches up. I'm gonna cut the 1st node branches off completely. Then I'm gonna top it above the 3rd node. Now I have 2 nodes. For 4 healthy colas, this should work fine right?

Like I said, you have dormant leaf or bud sites located at the point where a leaf petiole is attached to the "trunk". Make a cut above a node, a leafset's petiole and the plant will initiate output at the node just below the cut.

UB

 

[Uncle Ben]

Here ya go UB pics of a couple of hawaiian maui wowie. about 3weeks old using AN,s nutesand nutrient chart. Foxfarm soil in 1 gal pots for now, treated with MicroKote. Congrats Uncle Ben, when I topped them they never missed a day's growth Cheers

Yep, that's the drill.

Have fun!

 

[by1969]

Like I said, you have dormant leaf or bud sites located at the point where a leaf petiole is attached to the "trunk". Make a cut above a node, a leafset's petiole and the plant will initiate output at the node just below the cut.

UB

I topped 7 today with this technique. I'll post some pics later. Very educational UB. I put some pictures up of my current garden at day 35 of my 12-12 cycle. on the harvesting and curing board if you're interested in observing and commenting...

 

[billdo]

I topped 7 today with this technique. I'll post some pics later. Very educational UB. I put some pictures up of my current garden at day 35 of my 12-12 cycle. on the harvesting and curing board if you're interested in observing and commenting...

I would have totally checked that out if there had been a link. Sounds interesting.

 

[ConstantlyHighOnPot]

good info UB, this was one of the first things my parents taught me lol....i always pinch the 2nd or 3rd true node, it makes a nice little bush with like 4 colas - experimentation is key...

 

[by1969]

I would have totally checked that out if there had been a link. Sounds interesting.

Here's pics of the topped clones and 2 pics of my day 35 flowering girls. More in my profile gallery. How many more days do ya think on the big girls?

 

[funbuns]

Sorry to ask this as a noob in the advanced section. But could someone please tell me what a node is, so I have a good idea of where to cut. I'm trying to learn all I can before I start.

 

[billdo]

Sorry to ask this as a noob in the advanced section. But could someone please tell me what a node is, so I have a good idea of where to cut. I'm trying to learn all I can before I start.

a node is basically where branches come out of the stem. Do not count the first "seedling" leaves... we are talking real branches. So, just count up 2 nodes from the bottom, and snip snip just above it.

if i fucked that up somehow... someone call me on it.

 

[billdo]

OK... has anyone else noticed that the rollitup logo has "marijuana" spelled wrong?

To the site mods... i am not trying to be a dick here. I just want to know if I am being stupid or just don't know about some inside joke. I love this site... i am just weirded out by having never noticed this.

 

[funbuns]

a node is basically where branches come out of the stem. Do not count the first "seedling" leaves... we are talking real branches. So, just count up 2 nodes from the bottom, and snip snip just above it.

if i fucked that up somehow... someone call me on it.

Thanks Billdo, I'll take some pics when I start, hopefully it should be soon.

 

[billdo]

Thanks Billdo, I'll take some pics when I start, hopefully it should be soon.

keep a full diary! let me know when you get it going!

 

[Katatawnic]

Just do it per the first page, then it will become clear to you.

Katatawnic, great post.

Ben

Thanks, Ben! An amatuer getting props from someone experienced is quite the compliment; I must've gotten something right!

Cloning happened on Wednesday instead of Monday, due to having to temporarily rig the hanging of my new light setup.... there's always too much month at the end of the money! I'll be getting a pully on the 1st. (Shoe strings are quite strong when knotted properly!)

ANYHOOO, when it's time to top, I'll get out my cam & tripod and try for a clear vid to post.

~~ Kat ~~

 

[Uncle Ben]

OK... has anyone else noticed that the rollitup logo has "marijuana" spelled wrong?

To the site mods... i am not trying to be a dick here. I just want to know if I am being stupid or just don't know about some inside joke. I love this site... i am just weirded out by having never noticed this.

That's funny. Hell, I'd be happy if rollitup could get the time thingie right! That's in the noise level....we'll live.

Thanks, Ben! An amatuer getting props from someone experienced is quite the compliment; I must've gotten something right!

Cloning happened on Wednesday instead of Monday, due to having to temporarily rig the hanging of my new light setup.... there's always too much month at the end of the money! I'll be getting a pully on the 1st. (Shoe strings are quite strong when knotted properly!)

ANYHOOO, when it's time to top, I'll get out my cam & tripod and try for a clear vid to post.

~~ Kat ~~

Looking forward to your pix and the others too, post 'em here fellers.....if you want. Regarding your pulley, you might try lightweight dog chains and a hook on your lights, then you can adjust one link at a time.

Regarding topping, I've done it a bunch. What I've really tried to convey in this thread is not so much what meets the eye but plant responses regarding the function of auxins - apical dominance and the re-distribution of auxins induced by pinching out certain plant parts. Hormones pretty much control ALL plant activity from birth to death. For example, did you know that the germination of a seed is controlled totally by hormones? Bringing an embryo out of dormancy, aka "germination", is a battle between auxins and anti-auxins (one or more of dem sunsabeeches anyhoo). Learning the function of a plant's hormones and then playing games with them to your advantage is what it's all about, on any kind of plant material, especially trees in case you're an outdoor gardener too.

IOW, learn what makes a plant tick, after you learn the name of the plant parts <cough>.

Cya ~