N deficent? rootbound? pic

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
yea but if its a n def, flushing my plants and not adding nutes after will make it worse wont it,,
so many diffrent answers but whos right man ,what really is the thing to do
ive herd a few people mention epsom salts tho,,
and guano is organic innit
thats right flushing when you have a deff. is just going to defeat your purpose.either get a higher HPK nute or add the guano to the hutes you have know and that should help the problem. good luck
 

tokinman

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i was just wondering, you post how many litres your pots are.. what is that in gallons? the reason i ask is the rule is 1 gallon per foot for a healthy plant. i am guessing 6 ltre is around 2.5 gallons which would mean for ideal results your plant would not get over 2.5' tall.. not saying this is what is causing you grief, but i am sure it isn't helping matters any.

edited to add :
1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters so you dont even have a 2 gallon pot.. get a bigger pot
 

HERBAL ADDICT

Well-Known Member
yea ive got 4 atami 3gal square wilma pots on route..
ive seen plants grown in a 500ml cup, and it was a nice plants,, and a uk gal is like 4.5 ltr i think
 

dirt clean

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i would just mix up soem full str nute. Then throw in some guano. Mix yout other add ons, any bacteria stimulant, or aerate it for 24 hours wiith some organic material, like compost, then just pour on your plants. I would just pour my food on. With a topdress of guano and some guano in the tea/fert. It will be fine, for me it would be. No probs.
 

HERBAL ADDICT

Well-Known Member
RIGHT, IVE DECIDED,,

im just guna flush all plants as it will do some good as i suspect i may also have a salt build up

then ill give full dose nutes and molasess

ok so my nutes are canna bio vega npk 3.5/1/5.5,, i just read the bottle,,,

but these aint cheep nutes and they come highly recomended from growers in dam,, so this shud be all the plant will need

its got all the magnesium, sulfur and trace elements (B,Cu,Mn,Mo,Zn,Fe)

so this shud work,,it also contains nitrogen betane

depending on plant size and pot size it says feed 1/3 times a week when using a fertle soil?? what does that mean??

im using un fertilized seedling/cutting soil ,, does this matter??

i have canna terra profesional plus soil coming in a few days hopefully this will help,,

maybee my current soil is to dead now??

this is doing my head it now because 1 plant is showing slight nute burn / burnt spots on leafs and burnt leaf tips but its still showing an n def,, do u think the salt build ups could be fucking it all up? and blocking nutes??
ive noticed they aint drinking so fast any more,,

i dont want to just add this an that cos it cud make the problem worse,,

some roots are now loosing their bright white colour and turning slightly brown,, really light brown

shud i wait til the pots dry to flush? they have been wet for 3 days now,, so if i flush now it will be wet for even longer and my roots would get stressed more from wanting their share ov co2...

fucking plants,,

never had this problem growing sativas
 

EverythingHydro.com

Active Member
complete bullshit mate.any experienced grower can pinpoint a plant defficiency and nutrient dosages and npk figures is kids stuff.
and dont claim to have been on this site for a few years because i just looked at your public profile and it looks like you are talking shit.
you just joined the site rescently have no mates and 4 posts?????????.
(newbie i think).
:lol::lol:
LUDACRIS.
You're right Ludacris, anyone who has experience CAN pinpoint a problem. If I look at a plant and see the leaves are turning yellow I can safely ASSUME it's a N problem. No rocket science there.

The question becomes WHY. Is it because it's half way through flowering? Is it because the wrong formula is being applied? Is it because the pH is completely off? There are many causes to a single symtom.

It's like a someone saying "My car won't start. No gas is getting to the pistons". Great...why? Is it because the fuel pump went out? Is it because there is a leak in the fuel line? Is the car out of gas? Is the fuel filter clogged? Is it because the fuel line is blocked? Are the injectors corroded and nothing is passing?

High and mighty narcissists like yourself love to 'show how smart I am' by coming across as an authority and belittling people who have years and years of experience.

For people out there who need help here's my suggestion. Use common sense.

Eliminate causes that are easy to eliminate. Check the fuel gage to see if there is gas in the car. Look under the car to see if there is a gas leak.

In this case start from the basics and eliminate problems until you pinpoint what the problem is.

If you think its a N problem then don't go out and buy a new ballast. Find out what the causes of N deficiency is and go from there.

Whatever you do, beware of the Almighty who knows exactly what the problem is...that person doesn't no shit about your set up.

With that said, Big L still has my respect.
 

EverythingHydro.com

Active Member
RIGHT, IVE DECIDED,,

im just guna flush all plants as it will do some good as i suspect i may also have a salt build up

then ill give full dose nutes and molasess

ok so my nutes are canna bio vega npk 3.5/1/5.5,, i just read the bottle,,,

but these aint cheep nutes and they come highly recomended from growers in dam,, so this shud be all the plant will need

its got all the magnesium, sulfur and trace elements (B,Cu,Mn,Mo,Zn,Fe)

so this shud work,,it also contains nitrogen betane

depending on plant size and pot size it says feed 1/3 times a week when using a fertle soil?? what does that mean??

im using un fertilized seedling/cutting soil ,, does this matter??

i have canna terra profesional plus soil coming in a few days hopefully this will help,,

maybee my current soil is to dead now??

this is doing my head it now because 1 plant is showing slight nute burn / burnt spots on leafs and burnt leaf tips but its still showing an n def,, do u think the salt build ups could be fucking it all up? and blocking nutes??
ive noticed they aint drinking so fast any more,,

i dont want to just add this an that cos it cud make the problem worse,,

some roots are now loosing their bright white colour and turning slightly brown,, really light brown

shud i wait til the pots dry to flush? they have been wet for 3 days now,, so if i flush now it will be wet for even longer and my roots would get stressed more from wanting their share ov co2...

fucking plants,,

never had this problem growing sativas
Ask Ludicrous. Not only can he pinpoint your EXACT problem he can make them ready for budding tomorrow. :-)
 

NeoAnarchist

Well-Known Member
yea but if its a n def, flushing my plants and not adding nutes after will make it worse wont it,,
so many diffrent answers but whos right man ,what really is the thing to do
ive herd a few people mention epsom salts tho,,
and guano is organic innit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHO TOLD U TO USE EPSOM!? LIKE THAT IS HILARIOUS!!! that wont help u out ANY all that will do is keep ur plant from having a magnesium def. ROFLFAO. u need to add nitrogen to ur dirt or water, if u flush, that will get the rest of the nutes out, and then u can let sit and dry for a couple days (til it needs water) then water it with nutes, if u go full strenght u tend to cause more problems then good. u could face nute burn, and then have to repeat this process over again. lemme know if this helps tho, hope it does. ive lost a giant skunk to nitrogen def...its not a pretty site...
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
the low NPK #rs are good for smaller plant but as the get bigger they need more N. start off with a higher NPK mixed at 1/4 strength and work up as they get bigger you will not have that problem.good luck
 
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