Thats great and all, but your scenario and reality are not the same.
To equate the two, your scenario should go like this:
You have him chained to a table. You know for a fact he has information about a specific girl. He knows the information and is not giving it up. You waterboard him and he gives you bogus info.
First thing about this, the guy getting waterboarded isn't always a 'terrorist'. I've seen a documentary and read a few different reports of regular people being captured and in American custody in either Iraq or Afghanistan, one of the guys was actually a Bristish citizen of middle eastern descent and he got sent to Gitmo, where they tortured him, when he got out he told the media and his government what happened. This is infact happening to innocent people, just like the American death penalty, innocent people get executed, it happens, the fact that the state has the authority to KILL potentially innocent people is what's bogus, same thing applies to torturing prisoners, innocent people shouldn't be tortured. Second thing, how would you know what info was reliable and what info was false? How exactly would you seperate the two? Wouldn't a guy getting tortured tell you whatever you wanted to hear?
Guess what though, when the interrogators check on his intel and find it to be wrong, they will go back till they get the correct info. It is all checked out, or do you think we just accept what they say at face value?
I think they gather unreliable information through torture that puts American soldiers at risk. Give me one source where the information gathered through torture, that couldn't have been gathered any other way, brought about a successful mission.
In your scenario, he does not have information.
In the real scenario, where this IS going on, he has the information and he knows it and the interrogators know it.
...how can you even claim this? You seriously think everyone plays by the rules and follows orders behind closed doors in foreign prisons with zero accountability? Everyone has the potential, especially when the military and government themselves set out to dehumanize anyone of middle eastern descent so these people can do the shit they do and still sleep at night... Some of them, like Max and one other guy I can't remember his name actually like killing them, they've even admitted it, they keep kill counts and can't wait to do it again...
As for the rest, before the operation would go down, more intelligence would be gathered about the specified target. The informants story would be checked etc. They would not go in completely blind like you suggest.
Only if it suited political gains or American interests. Safety and security and fighting terrorism means shit in this war, it's all about money.
And guys, the US constitution does not apply to foreigners, so you can remove that from your argument. It ONLY applies to US citizens.
The US Constitution says we have to obey international law. International law says we can't torture. Waterboarding is defined UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW as TORTURE. 1+1=2... It's really easy guys...
Did you know: at the time this occurred, we were not adhering to the Geneva convention because it did not apply to them.
It applies to every person that is not an American citizen.
Look, you can be outraged all you want, but until you give equal outrage to these terrorists for their horrors and devote pages and pages of rhetoric to them, I will just view you as un american (only my opinion).
https://www.rollitup.org/politics/134114-iran-update-40.html
^^^Go check that thread, there's 70+ pages of me arguing with Cracker about the crazy inhumane shit the 'terrorists' do.
Just because they do it doesn't mean we should. Can you agree with that atleast?
You have to get to the root of the problem, you can't put a bandaid on a bullet wound. We created these 'terrorists'. They hate us because of our foreign policy and our governments actions the past century.
I'm outraged at any atrocities committed by any government in the name of anything. The state doesn't have the authority to inflict any kind of pain or cruel or unusual punishment on anyone, that's bullshit and doesn't belong in an intelligent civilized world.